Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 15:33:16 Mark Andrews wrote:
 
 In message 2490439.ec638ti...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
  Hi,
  
  On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote:
   
   In message 3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:

On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
 

   
   It's already there.  If you want the ports as of FreeBSD 4.x EOL
   then the tag is RELEASE_4_EOL.  If you want ports as of FreeBSD
   9.0 then the tag is RELEASE_9_9_0.
   
  I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html

All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), only 
apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not branched.

I understand this that I can use these tags on the FreeBSD sources but not on 
the ports.

I never tried this on the ports.

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote:
 I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it.

The EOL announcements have them.  I don't think the release announcements
do, however.

mcl
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel Kalchev



On 04.06.12 22:32, Dave Hayes wrote:

Chris Nehrenapeiron+freebsd-sta...@isuckatdomains.net  writes:

The descriptions of the options assume the admin is familiar with the
software they're installing. I do not think it is the FreeBSD Project's
purview to document every option for every port. At the very least it'd
take quite a lot of time and effort to document all of that.

That's a fair position. Perhaps it would not be too much trouble to add
this one idea to optionsng: a more info field on each option knob
which may be filled in by a port maintainer.


The pkg-descr file in the port already contains link to the software's 
origin. The various options the software has are or should be described 
there. We definitely don't want the ports cluttered with extraneous and 
sometimes out of date (and thus misleading) information.



Beyond this, such explanations would duplicate each port's own
documentation.

Not necessarily. I don't have an example offhand, but I suspect there
are a number of FreeBSD specific option knobs applied to ports.


There are in a way, and all of them are pretty much generic. Like 
WITHOUT_X11, WITH_CUPS etc. The purpose of these options is to more or 
less define the environment in which the port is intended to be used. 
For example, on a head-less server you most definitely want to build 
(say) php5 with WITHOUT_X11 in order to not pull unnecessary X11 related 
pieces. The intent of such options is to go to make.conf.


These options are for convenience however. You can set each port's 
options individually. In all case, compiling from source is not for 
those having no clue what they do. The ports infrastructure in FreeBSD 
is already doing the hard work to port the software to your OS, you need 
to make informed decisions on options yourself.
If this is beyond you (and not you personally), then by all means use 
pre-packaged software in binary form.


Since it is very likely that you interpret this as yet another elitist 
comment, let's make it clear: anyone is welcome to ask for help with 
FreeBSD and ports (in the proper mailing list as to not create much 
noise and get negative response). Nobody is obliged to provide any help 
on anything. Nevertheless, the FreeBSD users are great community and you 
are often getting help even for the most stupid questions. Except when 
you start with name calling, or insist if you don't help me, I will go 
elsewhere or apparently, you don't want the number of FreeBSD users to 
grow. Then you waste everyone's time -- that could be spent on 
answering other people's stupid questions.



Daniel
Daniel
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
 All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
 only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
 branched.

If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.

However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
is done for the ports tree.

It's not particularly easy to see this on cvsweb.  But let's take a look
at a random Mk/bsd.*.mk file via 'cvs log':

  RCS file: /home/FreeBSD/pcvs/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk,v
  Working file: bsd.apache.mk
  head: 1.36
  branch:
  locks: strict
  access list:
  symbolic names:
  RELEASE_8_3_0: 1.35
  RELEASE_9_0_0: 1.33
  RELEASE_7_4_0: 1.26
  RELEASE_8_2_0: 1.26
  RELEASE_6_EOL: 1.26
  [...]
  RELEASE_6_1_0: 1.9
  RELEASE_5_5_0: 1.9
  keyword substitution: kv
  total revisions: 36;selected revisions: 36
  description:
  
  revision 1.36
  date: 2012/05/23 08:17:48;  author: miwi;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -2
  - Remove emacs mode, -*- mode: ...; -*- [1]
  - Comments for BUILD_ and RUN_DEPENDS fail to mention alternate means to 
specify dependencie [2]
  - Fix make reinstall [3]
  - Trivial comment change for PORTDATA [4]
  [...]

and so forth.

The line RELEASE_8_3_0: 1.35 tells you the version of this file
as of tag RELEASE_8_3_0 was r1.35.  So that's what's on the 8.3R
distribution media.

mcl
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel Kalchev



On 05.06.12 07:33, Zane C. B-H. wrote:

[on Exchange wiping devices]

 From a enterprise perspective, it makes sense. Lets say a device goes
missing, it allows one to wipe it the next time it calls home.


This is supposed to be handled by the device management software. Not by 
your e-mail server. Because it does not belong to the mail server, this 
is why you will not find this functionality implemented in any open 
mail server or calendaring or groupware software.


As you involved enterprise and your previous statement on Apple, they 
surprisingly do have such device deployment and management solution. 
You can either use their own Apple Configurator, or any third party MDM 
as described in http://www.apple.com/ipad/business/integration/mdm/. I 
would not call this technique proprietary. Ok, it only works on iOS ;)



The usefulness of such a feature is better disconnected from the
debate of proprietary v. non-proprietary though, given the different
nature of both issues.


With this I fully agree. I hope you too agree, than when you disconnect 
the e-mail handling features of Exchange, from the lock-in technology 
Microsoft integrated there (ActiveSync), Exchange is no different than 
any other non-proprietary mail server.


The point here is that in order to have more freedom, one has to set 
expectations and setups right, from the begining. Separate the MDM and 
e-mail functionality and you are no longer locked with Microsoft or 
anyone. You can easily replace each component of your system and use the 
best software for the task. Not make compromises.


Daniel

PS: Yes, I don't like Microsoft's offerings. I understand why they do 
this, but this doesn't mean I agree and since I have plenty of other 
choices... I prefer the best. My enterprise(s) have been running on BSD 
UNIX for good over 20 years now. No Microsoft stuff. Not needed, not missed.

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Re: cvsup{, d} woes after upgrading to RELENG_9 on amd64 this weekend

2012-06-05 Thread Scot Hetzel
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Henri Hennebert h...@restart.be wrote:
 On 06/04/2012 10:53, Trond Endrestøl wrote:

 Hi,

 After upgrading to RELENG_9 as of yesterday on my amd64 system, cvsup
 bombs out with Bus error: 10.

 Example:

 # /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/src/stable-supfile
 Parsing supfile /usr/src/stable-supfile
 Connecting to localhost
 Connected to localhost
 Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
 Negotiating file attribute support
 Exchanging collection information
 Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
 Running
 Updating collection src-all/cvs
 Bus error: 10

 The only recent change I can think of is switching to clang for
 building the kernel and base. Made I should rebuild world and kernel
 using gcc.

 This is the culprit, you must compile libc and libz with gcc.

 See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=162588


make.conf snipet from PR 162588:

.if defined(WITH_CLANG)
.if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == cc
CC=clang
.endif
.if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == c++
CXX=clang++
.endif
.if !defined(CPP) || ${CPP} == cpp
CPP=clang -E
.endif
NO_WERROR=
WERROR=
.endif # WITH_CLANG

acccording to http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang#Quickstart,
you should be using:

CPP=clang-cpp

If you change this , does it fix the issue?

Scot
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 1:01:37 Mark Linimon wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote:
  I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it.
 
 The EOL announcements have them.  I don't think the release announcements
 do, however.
 
this is the problem. I would like to be able to go back to the last release in 
case of a problem and restart from there.

When it is possible to tag the EOL, it should be as easy to tag the SOL (start 
of life).

This would save a lot of time for many people.

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
  All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
  only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
  branched.
 
 If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
 
 However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
 is done for the ports tree.
 
 It's not particularly easy to see this on cvsweb.  But let's take a look
 at a random Mk/bsd.*.mk file via 'cvs log':

here we are. I never found this.

 
   RCS file: /home/FreeBSD/pcvs/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk,v
   Working file: bsd.apache.mk
   head: 1.36
   branch:
   locks: strict
   access list:
   symbolic names:
   RELEASE_8_3_0: 1.35
   RELEASE_9_0_0: 1.33
   RELEASE_7_4_0: 1.26
   RELEASE_8_2_0: 1.26
   RELEASE_6_EOL: 1.26
   [...]
   RELEASE_6_1_0: 1.9
   RELEASE_5_5_0: 1.9

If this list would make it into the documentation, all I asked would be already 
there.

I could write this but my English will need some corrections.

If you could give a link to how to do this properly, I would do it then.

But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?

Erich
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Re: cvsup{, d} woes after upgrading to RELENG_9 on amd64 this weekend

2012-06-05 Thread Henri Hennebert

On 06/05/2012 10:17, Scot Hetzel wrote:

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Henri Henneberth...@restart.be  wrote:

On 06/04/2012 10:53, Trond Endrestøl wrote:


Hi,

After upgrading to RELENG_9 as of yesterday on my amd64 system, cvsup
bombs out with Bus error: 10.

Example:

# /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/src/stable-supfile
Parsing supfile /usr/src/stable-supfile
Connecting to localhost
Connected to localhost
Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
Negotiating file attribute support
Exchanging collection information
Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
Running
Updating collection src-all/cvs
Bus error: 10

The only recent change I can think of is switching to clang for
building the kernel and base. Made I should rebuild world and kernel
using gcc.


This is the culprit, you must compile libc and libz with gcc.

See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=162588



make.conf snipet from PR 162588:

.if defined(WITH_CLANG)
.if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == cc
CC=clang
.endif
.if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == c++
CXX=clang++
.endif
.if !defined(CPP) || ${CPP} == cpp
CPP=clang -E
.endif
NO_WERROR=
WERROR=
.endif # WITH_CLANG

acccording to http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang#Quickstart,
you should be using:

CPP=clang-cpp



I change this a while ago and it don't change the problem at hand

Henri


If you change this , does it fix the issue?

Scot



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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 5, 2012 3:07 AM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
 

  Version tagging is just a convient way to get a snapshot at a
  particular point in time unless you create branches that are them

 we do not ask for more. There should be only one difference to a
snapshot. As snapshot has a date. No matter in what state the ports tree
was, it is in that state in the ports tree. If user - especially the one
not so fit in this aspect - want to use a snapshot, it will be difficult to
impossible to figure out which one they need.

 If version numbers would be introduced, it would be ok to use the version
number of the FreeBSD and have only version available which reflect the
release version of the ports tree.

 People here want to make always a perfect system. People like me want to
have some small things in there available with a click.

 As the ports trees are there anyway, only the direct link to the snapshot
of that day or a version number in the ports tree would be needed to make
this available for people who just want to use FreeBSD.

 Please note, I do not want any extra work spend here to make this
perfect. I only want a simple way to fall back to a big net which is not
that old from which the user can restart.


I and most others will purposely refuse to document this in any official
capacity, but I'll give you a hint.

Look for the date tag in man csup.

Chris
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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Oliver Pinter oliver.p...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think, this is the old thread:
 http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/High-load-event-idl-td5671431.html

 The interrupt rerouting does not help?

 On 6/3/12, Matt Thyer matt.th...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Jun 1, 2012 11:27 PM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  I already post a message about my problem
 
  I've three PC, all are Dell. Two laptop and one desktop.
 
  All run FreeBSD 9-Stable amd64
 
  Since 1 or 2 months I notice the load is never drop down 0.8-0.9 event
  when
  nothing running but only on those laptop.
 
  I update today my desktop to last csup src and everything is fine on the
  desktop.
 
  On both laptop the load is still at 0.8 - 0.9
 
  And in same time the usb mouse on the laptop stop working meaning I can
  use the touchpad, but if I plug a usb mouse, the kernel see the device
  but
  the mouse not working on xorg.
 
  Is' not block my work so I can live with that. I just want report those
  problems.
 
  Regards.
 
  JAS
 
  Is this due to a high rate of interrupts ?
  i.e. can you see this with systat -vm 1 with a large number in the
 intr
  field.
 
  If yes, run vmstat -i to see what interrupt is being hit.
 
  Then tell us what hardware is on that irq (from grep irq
  /var/run/dmesg.boot).
 
  Matt



did you enable device polling for your NIC?
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ata_controlcmd undefined

2012-06-05 Thread George Mitchell

I csupped my 9.0-STABLE kernel on Sunday and now get this message
at the beginning of booting up:

link-elf-obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
KLD file atapicat.ko - could not finalize loading

Kernel configuration is GENERIC (except scheduler is SCHED_4BSD).
-- George Mitchell
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ZFS autoexpand when there are 2 raidz2 vdevs

2012-06-05 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all,

during the last couple of years I occasionally increased the capacity
of raidz2 based zpools by replacing one disk at a time and resilvering,
subsequently. After replacing the final disk and a reboot (I guess
zpool export  zpool import would have done the trick, too) the capacity
of the FS on top of that pool was increased according to the size of
the new disk. All of theses systems had a pool built on one single vdev.

Last week I exchanged all disks of one vdev that is part of a 2 vdev
zpool. According to the Solaris documentation I found that should be
possible. I always assumed vdevs were sort of independent of each
other.

My observations:

During resilvering the activity LEDs of all 12 disks were showing heavy
load, not only the ones of the 6 disks being part of the vdev in question.

After exchanging all 6 disks the capacity stayed the same. I tried

zpool export, zpool import
reboot
zpool scrub

to no avail.

datatomb2# zpool status sx40
  pool: sx40
 state: ONLINE
 scan: scrub repaired 0 in 3h32m with 0 errors on Sat Jun  2 00:41:38 2012
config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
sx40 ONLINE   0 0 0
  raidz2-0   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk0   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk1   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk2   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk3   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk4   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk5   ONLINE   0 0 0
  raidz2-1   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk6   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk7   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk8   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk9   ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk10  ONLINE   0 0 0
gpt/sx40-disk11  ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

datatomb2# zpool get all sx40
NAME  PROPERTY   VALUE   SOURCE
sx40  size   10.9T   -
sx40  capacity   78% -
sx40  altroot-   default
sx40  health ONLINE  -
sx40  guid   1478259715706579670  default
sx40  version28  default
sx40  bootfs -   default
sx40  delegation on  default
sx40  autoreplaceoff default
sx40  cachefile  -   default
sx40  failmode   waitdefault
sx40  listsnapshots  off default
sx40  autoexpand on  local
sx40  dedupditto 0   default
sx40  dedupratio 1.00x   -
sx40  free   2.31T   -
sx40  allocated  8.57T   -
sx40  readonly   off -

The first 6 disks building raidz2-0 are 2 TB ones, not 1 TB.
The gpt partitions *are* about 2 TB in size.

What am I missing? Any hints welcome. I do have the hardware
to build another device with 6 drives 2 TB and 6 drives 1 TB,
which I planned to hook up to another server. Of course I could
connect it to this one first, build a second pool, copy over the
data ... but I was trying to avoid that in the first place ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Patrick
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote:
 But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?

Entire tree.

mcl
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Re: ZFS autoexpand when there are 2 raidz2 vdevs

2012-06-05 Thread Holger Kipp
Dear Patrick

Am 05.06.2012 um 13:29 schrieb Patrick M. Hausen hau...@punkt.de:

 Hi, all,

 during the last couple of years I occasionally increased the capacity
 of raidz2 based zpools by replacing one disk at a time and resilvering,
 subsequently. After replacing the final disk and a reboot (I guess
 zpool export  zpool import would have done the trick, too) the capacity
 of the FS on top of that pool was increased according to the size of
 the new disk. All of theses systems had a pool built on one single vdev.

 Last week I exchanged all disks of one vdev that is part of a 2 vdev
 zpool. According to the Solaris documentation I found that should be
 possible. I always assumed vdevs were sort of independent of each
 other.

 My observations:

 During resilvering the activity LEDs of all 12 disks were showing heavy
 load, not only the ones of the 6 disks being part of the vdev in question.

 After exchanging all 6 disks the capacity stayed the same. I tried

 zpool export, zpool import
 reboot
 zpool scrub

 to no avail.

I used
zpool set autoextend=on tank
zpool online -e tank da0
zpool online -e tank da1
...
zpool online -e tank da7

to increase the size of a raidz2
here from 5+ to 11+TB. Worked without problems.

This was with v28. Please check manages etc. for further explanations.

Best regards,
Holger


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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
  All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
  only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
  branched.
 
 If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
 
 However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
 is done for the ports tree.
 
I found now the location where this information is missing for beginners.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html

I simply cannot believe that beginners would expect this information to find 
this in the section for updating the kernel.

Erich
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Re: ZFS autoexpand when there are 2 raidz2 vdevs

2012-06-05 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi,

Am 05.06.2012 um 14:28 schrieb Holger Kipp:
 I used
 zpool set autoextend=on tank
 zpool online -e tank da0
 zpool online -e tank da1
 ...
 zpool online -e tank da7
 
 to increase the size of a raidz2
 here from 5+ to 11+TB. Worked without problems.

datatomb2# zpool online -e sx40 gpt/sx40-disk0
...
datatomb2# zpool online -e sx40 gpt/sx40-disk5

datatomb2# zpool get all sx40
NAME  PROPERTY   VALUE   SOURCE
sx40  size   16.3T   -
...

Thanks!

 This was with v28. Please check manages etc. for further explanations.


Done :-) Still puzzled why this worked automagically before. I don't have the
time right now to check the repository for a change that might disable the
automatic expansion of all new devices, but I suspect something like this.
I see how it is safer if you trigger expansion manually. E.g. if you need to use
a bigger temporary disk untill your warranty replacement with the correct size 
arrives.

Best regards,
Patrick
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-05 Thread Oliver Fromme
O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
  2) Disk and network I/O issues under load. We realized that FreeBSD has
  some issues in multithreaded environments. Even on 6/12 or 12/24
  core/thread systems, under heavy load (especially network and CPU load),
  disk I/O was (is?) poor. This is a no-go in a HPC environment.

This got a lot better when I switched to native AHCI mode
for SATA disks.  You have to have a fairly recent mainboard;
my workstation at the office (about 3 years old) doesn't
support AHCI mode yet.

  4) The lack of clustering capabilities. The lack of a clustered
  filesystem grows more and more important in the area of HPC, where
  storage systems get spread over a department.

Yes, a clustered file system would be very useful to have,
even outside the HPC area.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:45:59 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith  
step...@missouri.edu wrote:


More recently I have had to start using Linux because FreeBSD doesn't  
have very good laptop support.  (All I ask for is a way to configure the  
mouse pad so that I can switch off tap to click.)


See, this isn't very obvious to most people. It took me forever to figure  
it out.


On every other OS you use the Xorg synaptics driver, but on FreeBSD there  
is synaptics support built-in with the rest of the mouse driver.


man 4 psm:

 Tap and drag gestures can be disabled by setting hw.psm.tap_enabled  
to 0
 at boot-time.  Currently, this is only supported on Synaptics  
touchpads
 with Extended support disabled. The behaviour may be changed after  
boot

 by setting the sysctl with the same name and by restarting moused(8)
 using /etc/rc.d/moused.
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
 Hi,
 
 On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
   All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
   only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
   branched.
  
  If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
  
  However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
  is done for the ports tree.
  
 I found now the location where this information is missing for beginners.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
 
 I simply cannot believe that beginners would expect this information to find 
 this in the section for updating the kernel.
 
 Erich

Because, while you believe it is better to roll back to the release
point it really isn't.  The ports tree is rarely broken for long.
When it is broken people will tell you to roll back to a good date
and give you the date to use.  I've had to roll back a couple of
times in 11+ years of updating and never to a release point.

What is there is good advice.  Use a up-to-date ports tree.  If it
is broken wait a days or so and try again.  If it is still broken
report the problem using send-pr.

Mark
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com wrote:
  The current status is that we support 8.x and 9.x well.  Ports support
  for 7.x is starting to fade over time as new upstream releases rely
  on newer APIs.  6.x went EOL 11/30/2010 and we no longer claim to
  support it in ports.

FWIW ...  In fact, I can confirm that the ports don't support
6.x anymore since last week.  :-)

# cd /usr/ports/dns/bind96
# make
No closing parenthesis in archive specification
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.options.mk, line 177: Error in archive specification: 
WITH_
No closing parenthesis in archive specification
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.options.mk, line 177: Error in archive specification: 
WITH_
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: ata_controlcmd undefined

2012-06-05 Thread Oliver Fromme
George Mitchell  wrote:
  I csupped my 9.0-STABLE kernel on Sunday and now get this message
  at the beginning of booting up:
  
  link-elf-obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
  KLD file atapicat.ko - could not finalize loading

The same happened to me, except that I had device atapicam
statically in my kernel config.  When building the new kernel,
linking failed because of missing symbols (ata_controlcmd and
others).

It seems that atapicam is now obsolet and has been replaced by
options ATA_CAM which is already present in GENERIC.
Have you tried removing atapicam_load from /boot/loader.conf
(I guess that's where you're trying to load the module)?

  Kernel configuration is GENERIC (except scheduler is SCHED_4BSD).

Just out of curiosity, why do you prefer SCHED_4BSD?

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
 Look at the comment of the maintainer of LibreOffice ...

btw I tested and libreoffice is still working as expected.

Most of the time the libreoffice failures is from people tuning their system
without knowing the impact/risk of doing such, for example building some c++
libraries with g++47 let's imagine cppunit or anyother library depended on by
libreoffice, and building libreoffice with clang (which is default) and using
the libstdc++ from base (which also is default) and the mix of libstdc++ is
producing tons of problems.

problem i can't fix.

regards,
Bapt


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Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Benjamin Francom
I just saw this, and thought I'd share:

Open Connect Appliance Software

Netflix delivers streaming content using a combination of intelligent
clients, a central control system, and a network of Open Connect appliances.

When designing the Open Connect Appliance Software, we focused on these
fundamental design goals:

   - Use of Open Source software
   - Ability to efficiently read from disk and write to network sockets
   - High-performance HTTP delivery
   - Ability to gather routing information via BGP

Operating System

For the operating system, we use FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ version
9.0. This was selected for its balance of stability and features, a strong
development community and staff expertise. We will contribute changes we
make as part of our project to the community through the FreeBSD committers
on our team.
Web server

We use the nginx http://www.nginx.org/ web server for its proven
scalability and performance. Netflix audio and video is served via HTTP.
Routing intelligence proxy

We use the BIRD Internet routing daemon http://bird.network.cz/ to enable
the transfer of network topology from ISP networks to the Netflix control
system that directs clients to sources of content.
Acknowledgements

We would would like to express our thanks to the FreeBSD community, the
nginx community, and Ondrej and the BIRD team for providing excellent open
source software. We also work directly with Igor, Maxim, Andrew, Sergey,
Ruslan and the rest of the team at nginx.com http://www.nginx.com/, who
provide superb development support for our project.

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em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Johan Hendriks

hello all.

i have a new board the supermicro X9SCM-F with the latest firmware 508.
I am having some trouble with the onboard intel nics.
It only activate one nic.
From dmesg

em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3 port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0

em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: Setup of Shared code failed
device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 
16 at device 26.0 on pci0

usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
usbus0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3 port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3

em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08

pciconf -vl

em0@pci0:0:25:0:class=0x02 card=0x8086 chip=0x15038086 
rev=0x05 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82579V Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet


em1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x15d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

I have anothe machine wich has 9.0 stable as of today, if i boot from 
that disk, then it shows the above dmesg message with one difference 
that it replaces em1 for em0 also.


it then looks like so

em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2 port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0

em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: Setup of Shared code failed
device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 
16 at device 26.0 on pci0

usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
usbus0 on ehci0
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2 port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3

em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
em0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08

So still one network card.

Full dmesg from the 9.0-STABLE install.

Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
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FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jun  5 13:55:38 CEST 2012
root@filer01.neuteboom.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNL amd64
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz (3093.05-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x206a7  Family = 6  Model = 2a  
Stepping = 7
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
Features2=0x1fbae3ffSSE3,PCLMULQDQ,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX

  AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 34359738368 (32768 MB)
avail memory = 33077051392 (31544 MB)
Event timer LAPIC quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: SUPERM SMCI--MB
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  4
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  6
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded
acpi0: SUPERM SMCI--MB on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 67, 1 (4) failed
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0
hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0
Timecounter HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950
Event timer HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 550
Event timer HPET1 frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440
Event timer HPET2 frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440
Event timer HPET3 frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440
Event timer HPET4 frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440
atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0
atrtc0: Warning: Couldn't map I/O.
Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0
attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Event timer i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 19 at 

Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Stach
I have an X9SCA-F board and recently updated the BIOS to version 2.0 (the .508 
BIOS file).
Its not the same board as yours but maybe the you have the same problem. When i 
downloaded
the BIOS from the Supermicro website on May 23 the included AMI.BAT only 
updated the BIOS
and not the Intel ME BIOS extension.

When i downloaded the file again 2 days ago the AMI.BAT was updated to also 
flash the Intel ME.
Too bad the version number and the filename are still the same. I only got to 
know this after
contacting their support.

My problems were different though. Both of my nics were usable but were hanging 
after about
2 hours of heavy load but maybe your problem can be fixed with a new BIOS 
update.

Sebastian


Am 05.06.2012 um 18:46 schrieb Johan Hendriks:

 hello all.
 
 i have a new board the supermicro X9SCM-F with the latest firmware 508.
 I am having some trouble with the onboard intel nics.
 It only activate one nic.
 From dmesg
 
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3 port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
 0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
 em0: Using an MSI interrupt
 em0: Setup of Shared code failed
 device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
 ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 16 
 at device 26.0 on pci0
 usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
 usbus0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
 em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3 port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
 0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
 em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
 em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08
 
 pciconf -vl
 
 em0@pci0:0:25:0:class=0x02 card=0x8086 chip=0x15038086 
 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82579V Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
 
 
 em1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x15d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
 
 I have anothe machine wich has 9.0 stable as of today, if i boot from that 
 disk, then it shows the above dmesg message with one difference that it 
 replaces em1 for em0 also.
 
 it then looks like so
 
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2 port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
 0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
 em0: Using an MSI interrupt
 em0: Setup of Shared code failed
 device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
 ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 16 
 at device 26.0 on pci0
 usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
 usbus0 on ehci0
 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2 port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
 0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
 em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08
 
 So still one network card.
 
 Full dmesg from the 9.0-STABLE install.
 
 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jun  5 13:55:38 CEST 2012
root@filer01.neuteboom.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNL amd64
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz (3093.05-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x206a7  Family = 6  Model = 2a  Stepping = 7
  
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
 Features2=0x1fbae3ffSSE3,PCLMULQDQ,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX
  AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
 real memory  = 34359738368 (32768 MB)
 avail memory = 33077051392 (31544 MB)
 Event timer LAPIC quality 600
 ACPI APIC Table: SUPERM SMCI--MB
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  4
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 kbd1 at kbdmux0
 ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded
 acpi0: SUPERM SMCI--MB on motherboard
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 acpi0: reservation of 67, 1 (4) failed
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0
 

Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Daley

I didn't see a link to this information in the e-mail below.  I found this info 
detailed here: 


https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/software






From: Benjamin Francom bfran...@gmail.com
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Sent: Tue, June 5, 2012 11:00:01 AM
Subject: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

I just saw this, and thought I'd share:

Open Connect Appliance Software

Netflix delivers streaming content using a combination of intelligent
clients, a central control system, and a network of Open Connect appliances.

When designing the Open Connect Appliance Software, we focused on these
fundamental design goals:

   - Use of Open Source software
   - Ability to efficiently read from disk and write to network sockets
   - High-performance HTTP delivery
   - Ability to gather routing information via BGP

Operating System

For the operating system, we use FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ version
9.0. This was selected for its balance of stability and features, a strong
development community and staff expertise. We will contribute changes we
make as part of our project to the community through the FreeBSD committers
on our team.
Web server

We use the nginx http://www.nginx.org/ web server for its proven
scalability and performance. Netflix audio and video is served via HTTP.
Routing intelligence proxy

We use the BIRD Internet routing daemon http://bird.network.cz/ to enable
the transfer of network topology from ISP networks to the Netflix control
system that directs clients to sources of content.
Acknowledgements

We would would like to express our thanks to the FreeBSD community, the
nginx community, and Ondrej and the BIRD team for providing excellent open
source software. We also work directly with Igor, Maxim, Andrew, Sergey,
Ruslan and the rest of the team at nginx.com http://www.nginx.com/, who
provide superb development support for our project.

-- 
Benjamin Francom
Information Technology Professional
http://www.benfrancom.com
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Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 I didn't see a link to this information in the e-mail below.  I found this 
 info 
 detailed here: 
 
 
 https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/software

If you come from an IP range outside of netflix' footprint, that
page is not available.

But have a look at that PDF, comes from their webpage:

http://opsec.eu/backup/OpenConnectDeploymentGuide-v2.4a.pdf

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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Schaich Alonso
On 2012-06-05 (Tuesday) 19:31:44 Sebastian Stach wrote:
 I have an X9SCA-F board and recently updated the BIOS to version 2.0 (the
 .508 BIOS file). Its not the same board as yours but maybe the you have
 the same problem. When i downloaded the BIOS from the Supermicro website
 on May 23 the included AMI.BAT only updated the BIOS and not the Intel ME
 BIOS extension.
 
 When i downloaded the file again 2 days ago the AMI.BAT was updated to also
 flash the Intel ME. Too bad the version number and the filename are still
 the same. I only got to know this after contacting their support.
 
 My problems were different though. Both of my nics were usable but were
 hanging after about 2 hours of heavy load but maybe your problem can be
 fixed with a new BIOS update.
 
 Sebastian
 

Hello

I never have updated the BIOS on my X9SCM-F, yet the interfaces are also going 
down after some time of full load.
Was the NIC issue fixed for you by updating the BIOS?

Alonso
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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Johan Hendriks

Sebastian Stach schreef:

I have an X9SCA-F board and recently updated the BIOS to version 2.0 (the .508 
BIOS file).
Its not the same board as yours but maybe the you have the same problem. When i 
downloaded
the BIOS from the Supermicro website on May 23 the included AMI.BAT only 
updated the BIOS
and not the Intel ME BIOS extension.

When i downloaded the file again 2 days ago the AMI.BAT was updated to also 
flash the Intel ME.
Too bad the version number and the filename are still the same. I only got to 
know this after
contacting their support.

My problems were different though. Both of my nics were usable but were hanging 
after about
2 hours of heavy load but maybe your problem can be fixed with a new BIOS 
update.

Sebastian


Am 05.06.2012 um 18:46 schrieb Johan Hendriks:


hello all.

i have a new board the supermicro X9SCM-F with the latest firmware 508.
I am having some trouble with the onboard intel nics.
It only activate one nic.
 From dmesg

em0:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3  port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: Setup of Shared code failed
device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
ehci0:EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller  mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 16 at 
device 26.0 on pci0
usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
usbus0:EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller  on ehci0
pcib2:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib2
pcib3:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib3
em1:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3  port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08

pciconf -vl

em0@pci0:0:25:0:class=0x02 card=0x8086 chip=0x15038086 rev=0x05 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82579V Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet


em1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x15d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

I have anothe machine wich has 9.0 stable as of today, if i boot from that 
disk, then it shows the above dmesg message with one difference that it 
replaces em1 for em0 also.

it then looks like so

em0:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2  port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: Setup of Shared code failed
device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
ehci0:EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller  mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 16 at 
device 26.0 on pci0
usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
usbus0 on ehci0
pcib2:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib2
pcib3:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib3
em0:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.2  port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
em0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08

So still one network card.

Full dmesg from the 9.0-STABLE install.

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root@filer01.neuteboom.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNL amd64
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz (3093.05-MHz K8-class CPU)
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Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
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  AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 34359738368 (32768 MB)
avail memory = 33077051392 (31544 MB)
Event timer LAPIC quality 600
ACPI APIC Table:SUPERM SMCI--MB
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  2
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  4
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  6
ioapic0Version 2.0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded
acpi0:SUPERM SMCI--MB  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 67, 1 (4) failed
cpu0:ACPI CPU  on acpi0
cpu1:ACPI CPU  on acpi0
cpu2:ACPI CPU  on acpi0
cpu3:ACPI CPU  on acpi0
hpet0:High Precision Event Timer  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0
Timecounter HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950
Event timer HPET 

Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Stach
The AMI.BAT you have already updates the BIOS and the Intel ME. I'm still in 
contact with
the support but they told me that this fixes the issue most people are having. 
On my board
one of the two nics is still hanging under heavy load. I hope that they will 
come up with
a solution to this.

Sebastian Stach


Am 05.06.2012 um 20:39 schrieb Johan Hendriks:

 Thanks for the pointer.
 But my ami.bat file from the just downloaded .508 (2.0) firmware is the same 
 as the one i used.
 
 this is my ami.bat
 @echo off
 
 REN AFUDOSU.SMC AFUDOSU.EXE
 
 AFUDOSU.EXE  %1  /P /B /N /K /R /FDT /MER /OPR
 
 REN AFUDOSU.EXE AFUDOSU.SMC
 
 I will also try to contact there support desk, maybe they need to adjust some 
 things for the bios file for the X9SCM-F also.
 
 regards
 Johan Hendriks.
 
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Re: Problem with sub-path (or sub-url) in smbfs.

2012-06-05 Thread Ronald Klop
On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:00:31 +0200, Manuel Trujillo (TooManySecrets)  
toom...@toomany.net wrote:



On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Manuel Trujillo (TooManySecrets)
toom...@toomany.net wrote:

I have also an /etc/nsmb.conf configured. All runs fine... except
because I only can mount up to recursos (from the line
teide/recursos/usuarios/myuser), and NOT the share myuser (the last
part of the PATH).


Anybody could tell me, please, where is the better site/list to make
this question?

Thank you very much.



Maybe freebsd-fs.
Do you have error messages?

Ronald.
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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 03/06/2012 ? 23:55:06+0200, Oliver Pinter a écrit
 I think, this is the old thread:
 http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/High-load-event-idl-td5671431.html

Yes. But because I didn't find any solution, I resent the problem.
 
 The interrupt rerouting does not help?

Well I've no idea what you talking but I try every solution describe in the
thread you mentioned. I didn't find any solution.

Regards.

NB: I forget to say I'm not a developer, just sysadmin. I use Stable just
for report here any problem I got. 
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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 04/06/2012 ? 06:22:34+0930, Matt Thyer a écrit
 
Hi,

 Is this due to a high rate of interrupts ?

No idea ;-)

 i.e. can you see this with systat -vm 1 with a large number in the intr
 field.

Well I don't known what you mean by «high rate», so I make a compraison
between my desktop and my laptop. 

On the laptop (where the load is always high) I got 
~500- 650 total Interrupts with ~490-500 from hpet0 uhci

On my desktop (load is ~0) I got
~340- 360 total Interrupts with 320-350 from hpet0 20


 
 If yes, run vmstat -i to see what interrupt is being hit.
On my laptop (uptime ~ 1h): 

vmstat -i

interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd07240  1
irq9: acpi07  0
irq12: psm044037 10
irq14: ata0 6590  1
irq17: wpi0   683770155
irq18: atapci1 15447  3
irq19: fwohci0 2  0
irq20: hpet0 uhci0*  2888037656
irq22: ehci0 uhci4 2  0
irq256: hdac0 270090 61
Total3915222890

On my destkop (uptime 5 days)

interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd0  239742  0
irq12: psm0   999224  2
irq16: uhci0 4062873  9
irq17: fwohci0++   1  0
irq20: hpet0   222779529500
irq22: uhci2 ehci0222967  0
irq24: vgapci0972589  2
irq256: hdac09881473 22
irq257: bge0 8422313 18
irq258: ahci05744209 12
Total  253324920568

 
 Then tell us what hardware is on that irq (from grep irq /var/run/dmesg.boot).


Here on the laptop: 

grep irq /var/run/dmesg.boot 

ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71,0x72-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0
attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 2 on acpi0
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xdf00-0xdf7f mem 
0xf500-0xf5ff,0xe000-0xefff,0xf200-0xf3ff irq 16 at 
device 0.0 on pci1
uhci0: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-D port 0x6f20-0x6f3f irq 20 at 
device 26.0 on pci0
uhci1: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-E port 0x6f00-0x6f1f irq 21 at 
device 26.1 on pci0
ehci0: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-B mem 
0xfed1c400-0xfed1c7ff irq 22 at device 26.7 on pci0
hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller mem 0xf6ffc000-0xf6ff irq 21 at device 
27.0 on pci0
wpi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG mem 0xf1fff000-0xf1ff irq 17 at 
device 0.0 on pci12
bge0: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x00a200
mem 0xf1bf-0xf1bf irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci9
uhci2: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-A port 0x6f80-0x6f9f irq 20 at 
device 29.0 on pci0
uhci3: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-B port 0x6f60-0x6f7f irq 21 at 
device 29.1 on pci0
uhci4: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-C port 0x6f40-0x6f5f irq 22 at 
device 29.2 on pci0
ehci1: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-A mem 
0xfed1c000-0xfed1c3ff irq 20 at device 29.7 on pci0
fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 0xf1aff800-0xf1af irq 19 
at device 1.0 on pci3
atapci0: Intel ICH8M UDMA100 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x6fa0-0x6faf irq 16 at device 31.1 on pci0
atapci1: Intel ICH8M SATA300 controller port 
0x6eb0-0x6eb7,0x6eb8-0x6ebb,0x6ec0-0x6ec7,0x6ec8-0x6ecb,0x6ee0-0x6eef,0xeff0-0xefff
 irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64,0x62,0x66 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

Regards.

JAS
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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 05/06/2012 ? 12:40:19+0200, Matthias Gamsjager a écrit
 
 
 
  I've three PC, all are Dell. Two laptop and one desktop.
 
  All run FreeBSD 9-Stable amd64
 
  Since 1 or 2 months I notice the load is never drop down 0.8-0.9 event
  when
  nothing running but only on those laptop.
 
  I update today my desktop to last csup src and everything is fine on 
 the
  desktop.
 
  On both laptop the load is still at 0.8 - 0.9
 
  And in same time the usb mouse on the laptop stop working meaning I can
  use the touchpad, but if I plug a usb mouse, the kernel see the device
  but
  the mouse not working on xorg.
 
  Is' not block my work so I can live with that. I just want report those
  problems.
 
 
 
 did you enable device polling for your NIC? 

No it's standard configuration about NIC. 

I don't need to enable anything to got high load, I boot the laptop, log
with root login that's enough (without X11) to got 0.6-0.7 load.

Basicaly I use a wifi NIC, and most important I change nothing on the
configuration since ... long time ago (maybe FreeBSD 6.x). First time I got
a problem so strange with Stable. (Maybe third time I got a problem with
stable ;-) ). 

Regards.

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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-05 Thread Ronald Klop
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:57:52 +0200, Thomas David Rivers  
riv...@dignus.com wrote:



We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops...

Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running
the build and file server...

Why?

Because - the mac updates itself!  No pain, no installation,
no keeping-up with mailing lists/announcements, just click and its  
done.


Mac OS has a nice X11 server, the Mac UI is good enough, you don't
have to install/update anything, the app store is perfect
for downloading/installing whatever a desktop user might need.

It was just too alluring...

So, FreeBSD runs our NFS file server, and we log into a larger
FreeBSD machine to do builds, etc... but, the desktop has moved.

One developer here uses Linux Debian for about the same reason,
it's trivial to update (via the network) to new versions, etc...

Our web site used to be FreeBSD-based, but it was just too
cost-effective to get a virtual Linux box on the backbone and
move everything to that.  Our requirements aren't too big, so
that works beautifully.   There _are_ people doing virtual
FreeBSD boxes in a similar fashion, but they were quote a lot
more for the annual fee.. so, Linux it was...

I suppose, in some sense, you could argue that MacOS is FreeBSD...

- Dave Rivers -


Have you already tried pc-bsd?

http://www.pcbsd.org/

FreeBSD with easy install and auto-update.

Ronald.
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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Adam McDougall

On 06/05/12 15:37, Albert Shih wrote:

  Le 03/06/2012 ? 23:55:06+0200, Oliver Pinter a écrit

I think, this is the old thread:
http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/High-load-event-idl-td5671431.html


Yes. But because I didn't find any solution, I resent the problem.


The interrupt rerouting does not help?


Well I've no idea what you talking but I try every solution describe in the
thread you mentioned. I didn't find any solution.

Regards.

NB: I forget to say I'm not a developer, just sysadmin. I use Stable just
for report here any problem I got.


Try changing kern.eventtimer.timer:

% sysctl kern.eventtimer.timer=LAPIC

How to display your choices ordered by quality:
% sysctl kern.eventtimer

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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Sebastian Stach wrote:

I have an X9SCA-F board and recently updated the BIOS to version 2.0 (the .508 
BIOS file).
Its not the same board as yours but maybe the you have the same problem. When i 
downloaded
the BIOS from the Supermicro website on May 23 the included AMI.BAT only 
updated the BIOS
and not the Intel ME BIOS extension.


[...]

There is a differenc between X9SCM-F and X9SCA-F. The SCM version has 
82579V and 82574L NIC, but X9SCA-F has both NICs 82574L.
And as I read about some problems with 82579V on the net, I bought 
X9SCA-F few weeks ago.

I didn't notice any problem.

Can you describe the conditions when you have some network problems so I 
can do some tests?


I am running FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE for testing, not heavily loaded.

Miroslav Lachman



Am 05.06.2012 um 18:46 schrieb Johan Hendriks:


hello all.

i have a new board the supermicro X9SCM-F with the latest firmware 508.
I am having some trouble with the onboard intel nics.
It only activate one nic.
 From dmesg

em0:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3  port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 
0xf780-0xf781,0xf7825000-0xf7825fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: Setup of Shared code failed
device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
ehci0:EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller  mem 0xf7824000-0xf78243ff irq 16 at 
device 26.0 on pci0
usbus0: EHCI version 1.0
usbus0:EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller  on ehci0
pcib2:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib2
pcib3:ACPI PCI-PCI bridge  irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3:ACPI PCI bus  on pcib3
em1:Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.2.3  port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 
0xf770-0xf771,0xf772-0xf7723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors
em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:75:c8:08

pciconf -vl

em0@pci0:0:25:0:class=0x02 card=0x8086 chip=0x15038086 rev=0x05 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82579V Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet


em1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x15d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet


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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Stach
I just need to run a tool like iperf and let it run. After about 1-2 hours my 
nic will just hang
without any messages. I can't even ping the machine anymore. I also installed 
Solaris to check
if it's maybe a FreeBSD problem but it's the same there.

The support told me that they know about problems with the nics and the BIOS 
version 2.0
but that the new update should fix it.

Which BIOS version do you have?

Sebastian Stach

Am 05.06.2012 um 22:16 schrieb Miroslav Lachman:

 There is a differenc between X9SCM-F and X9SCA-F. The SCM version has 82579V 
 and 82574L NIC, but X9SCA-F has both NICs 82574L.
 And as I read about some problems with 82579V on the net, I bought X9SCA-F 
 few weeks ago.
 I didn't notice any problem.
 
 Can you describe the conditions when you have some network problems so I can 
 do some tests?
 
 I am running FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE for testing, not heavily loaded.
 
 Miroslav Lachman

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Re: Load when idl on stable

2012-06-05 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 05/06/2012 ? 16:14:56-0400, Adam McDougall a écrit
 On 06/05/12 15:37, Albert Shih wrote:
Le 03/06/2012 ? 23:55:06+0200, Oliver Pinter a écrit
  I think, this is the old thread:
  http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/High-load-event-idl-td5671431.html
 
  Yes. But because I didn't find any solution, I resent the problem.
 
  The interrupt rerouting does not help?
 
  Well I've no idea what you talking but I try every solution describe in the
  thread you mentioned. I didn't find any solution.
 
  Regards.
 
  NB: I forget to say I'm not a developer, just sysadmin. I use Stable just
  for report here any problem I got.
 
 Try changing kern.eventtimer.timer:
 
 % sysctl kern.eventtimer.timer=LAPIC

I have no idea what's that mean, but yes it's much better.

After 10 minutes the load drop to 0.08 (from 0.60-0.70)

last pid:  2876;  load averages:  0.05,  0.06,  0.17 up 0+02:14:49  
22:45:45
81 processes:  1 running, 80 sleeping

but still more than my desktop: 

last pid: 10150;  load averages:  0.00,  0.00,  0.00 up 5+04:42:21  
22:46:18
166 processes: 1 running, 165 sleeping


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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Sebastian Stach wrote:

I just need to run a tool like iperf and let it run. After about 1-2 hours my 
nic will just hang
without any messages. I can't even ping the machine anymore. I also installed 
Solaris to check
if it's maybe a FreeBSD problem but it's the same there.

The support told me that they know about problems with the nics and the BIOS 
version 2.0
but that the new update should fix it.

Which BIOS version do you have?


The board had BIOS 1.1a with build date 2011-09-28 so I updated it to 
version 2.0 with build date 2012-05-08.


I am preparing iperf test so I will let you know tomorrow about results.

One question - are you using dedicated management port or shared with 
Intel NIC?


Miroslav Lachman



Am 05.06.2012 um 22:16 schrieb Miroslav Lachman:


There is a differenc between X9SCM-F and X9SCA-F. The SCM version has 82579V 
and 82574L NIC, but X9SCA-F has both NICs 82574L.
And as I read about some problems with 82579V on the net, I bought X9SCA-F few 
weeks ago.
I didn't notice any problem.

Can you describe the conditions when you have some network problems so I can do 
some tests?

I am running FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE for testing, not heavily loaded.

Miroslav Lachman

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Re: em interfaces supermicro X9SCM-F board

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Stach
The default was that IPMI is shared with the Intel NIC but i configured it to 
use the dedicated interface.

Sebastian Stach


Am 05.06.2012 um 23:21 schrieb Miroslav Lachman:

 The board had BIOS 1.1a with build date 2011-09-28 so I updated it to version 
 2.0 with build date 2012-05-08.
 
 I am preparing iperf test so I will let you know tomorrow about results.
 
 One question - are you using dedicated management port or shared with Intel 
 NIC?
 
 Miroslav Lachman

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Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Scott Long

On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Benjamin Francom wrote:

 I just saw this, and thought I'd share:
 
 Open Connect Appliance Software
 
 Netflix delivers streaming content using a combination of intelligent
 clients, a central control system, and a network of Open Connect appliances.
 
 When designing the Open Connect Appliance Software, we focused on these
 fundamental design goals:
 
   - Use of Open Source software
   - Ability to efficiently read from disk and write to network sockets
   - High-performance HTTP delivery
   - Ability to gather routing information via BGP
 
 Operating System
 
 For the operating system, we use FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ version
 9.0. This was selected for its balance of stability and features, a strong
 development community and staff expertise. We will contribute changes we
 make as part of our project to the community through the FreeBSD committers
 on our team.
 Web server
 

Yes, we are indeed using FreeBSD at Netflix!  For those who are interested, I
recently moved from Yahoo to Netflix to help support FreeBSD for them, and
I'm definitely impressed with what is going on there.  Other than a few small
changes, we're using stock FreeBSD 9, tracking the 9-stable branch on a
regular basis.  Our chassis is a semi-custom 4U 19 form factor with thirty six
3TB SATA disks and 2 SSDs.  Each disk has its own UFS+J filesystem, except for
the SSDs that are mirrored together with gmirror.  The SSDs hold the OS image
and cache some of the busiest content.  The other disks hold nothing but the
audio and video files for our content streams.  We connect to the outside world
via a twin-port Intel 10GBe optical NIC (only one port is active at the moment),
and we use LSI MPT2 controllers for 32 of the 36 disks.  The other 4 disks
connect to the onboard AHCI SATA controller.  All of the disks are
direct-attach with no SAS backplanes or expanders.  Out-of-band management
happens via IPMI on an on-board 1Gb NIC.  The entire system consumes
around 500W of power, making it a very efficient appliance for its 
functionality.

Netflix is also at the front of the internet pack with IPv6 roll-out, and 
FreeBSD
plays an essential part of that.  We've been working hard on stabilizing the
FreeBSD IPv6 stack for production-level traffic, and I recommend that all users
of IPv6 update to the latest patches in 9-stable and 8-stable.  Contact me
directly if you have questions about this.  That said, we're excited about World
IPv6 Day, and we're ready with  DNS records and content service from both
Amazon and the traditional CDNs as well as our OpenConnect network.

From an advocacy standpoint, Netflix represents 30% of all North American
internet traffic during peak hours, and FreeBSD is becoming an integral part
of that metric as we shift traffic off of the traditional CDNs.  We're expanding
quickly, which means that FreeBSD is once again a core part of the internet
infrastructure.  As we find and fix stability and performance issues, we're
aggressively pushing those changes into FreeBSD so that everyone can
benefit from them, just as we benefit from the contributions of the rest of the
FreeBSD ecosystem.  We're proud to be a part of the community, and look
forward to a long-term relationship with FreeBSD.

If you have any questions, let me know or follow the information links on the
OpenConnect web site.

Scott

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Re: ata_controlcmd undefined

2012-06-05 Thread George Mitchell

On 06/05/12 11:20, Oliver Fromme wrote:

George Mitchell  wrote:
I csupped my 9.0-STABLE kernel on Sunday and now get this message
at the beginning of booting up:
  
link-elf-obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
KLD file atapicat.ko - could not finalize loading

The same happened to me, except that I had device atapicam
statically in my kernel config.  When building the new kernel,
linking failed because of missing symbols (ata_controlcmd and
others).

It seems that atapicam is now obsolet and has been replaced by
options ATA_CAM which is already present in GENERIC.

Okay, thanks for the explanation.

Have you tried removing atapicam_load from /boot/loader.conf
(I guess that's where you're trying to load the module)?


Yes.


Kernel configuration is GENERIC (except scheduler is SCHED_4BSD).

Just out of curiosity, why do you prefer SCHED_4BSD?


Don't get me started!  -- George


Best regards
Oliver



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Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread David Magda
On Jun 5, 2012, at 20:16, Scott Long wrote:

 If you have any questions, let me know or follow the information links on the
 OpenConnect web site.

Out of curiosity, given that Linux seems popular in so many other places 
(Google, Facebook), is there any particular reason why FreeBSD was chosen for 
this?

I'm sure Linux is used in many other places (much of Netflix's IT 
infrastructure is on Amazon IIRC), so I'm kind of surprised that they went with 
FreeBSD when they probably already have so much knowledge with Linux.

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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for amd64/amd64
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:03 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/amd64/amd64/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - TARGET=amd64
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - TARGET_ARCH=amd64
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-05 23:22:14 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Tue Jun  5 23:22:15 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 stage 5.1: building 32 bit shim libraries
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 00:30:14 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - TARGET=amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - TARGET_ARCH=amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:30:14 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 00:30:14 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
: export_syms
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.ko  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy % 
if_rum.ko
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h -I. 
-I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param 
large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -fno-omit-frame-pointer 
-I/obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone  -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse 
-mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow  -msoft-float 
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector 
-std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
-Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  
-Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:26 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:26 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:26 - 4069.31 user 737.18 system 5183.05 real


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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for i386/i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:34 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/i386/i386/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - TARGET=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - TARGET_ARCH=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:04:45 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:04:46 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 00:51:29 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - cd /src/sys/i386/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - cd /src/sys/i386/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - TARGET=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - TARGET_ARCH=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:29 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 00:51:29 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy 
% if_rum.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_rum.ko if_rum.kld
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/i386/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h -I. 
-I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param 
large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -I/obj/i386/src/sys/LINT 
-mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow 
-mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 
-fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef 
-Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/i386/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:13 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:13 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:13 - 3185.40 user 542.33 system 3999.20 real


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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for i386/pc98
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:22 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/i386/pc98/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - TARGET=pc98
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - TARGET_ARCH=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:08:33 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:08:34 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 00:54:49 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - cd /src/sys/pc98/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - cd /src/sys/pc98/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - TARGET=pc98
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - TARGET_ARCH=i386
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:54:49 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 00:54:49 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy 
% if_rum.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_rum.ko if_rum.kld
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/pc98/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h -I. 
-I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param 
large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -I/obj/pc98/src/sys/LINT 
-mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow 
-mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 
-fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef 
-Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/pc98/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:22 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:22 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:11:22 - 3004.39 user 522.87 system 3780.00 real


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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on mips/mips

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for mips/mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:26:55 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/mips/mips/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - TARGET=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - TARGET_ARCH=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:27:09 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:27:09 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 01:03:48 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - cd /src/sys/mips/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - /usr/sbin/config -m ADM5120
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - building ADM5120 kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - TARGET=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - TARGET_ARCH=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:03:48 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=ADM5120
 Kernel build for ADM5120 started on Wed Jun  6 01:03:48 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
 Kernel build for ADM5120 completed on Wed Jun  6 01:05:02 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - cd /src/sys/mips/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - /usr/sbin/config -m ALCHEMY
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - building ALCHEMY kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - TARGET=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - TARGET_ARCH=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:05:02 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=ALCHEMY
 Kernel build for ALCHEMY started on Wed Jun  6 01:05:02 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
 Kernel build for ALCHEMY completed on Wed Jun  6 01:06:14 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - cd /src/sys/mips/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - /usr/sbin/config -m AR71XX
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - building AR71XX kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - TARGET=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - TARGET_ARCH=mips
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:06:14 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=AR71XX
 Kernel build for AR71XX started on Wed Jun  6 01:06:14 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.ko.debug  export_syms | xargs -J% 
objcopy % if_rum.ko.debug
objcopy --only-keep-debug if_rum.ko.debug if_rum.ko.symbols
objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=if_rum.ko.symbols if_rum.ko.debug 
if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O -pipe -EL -msoft-float -G0 -mno-dsp -mabicalls -Werror -D_KERNEL 
-DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include 
/obj/mips/src/sys/AR71XX/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq 
-finline-limit=8000 --param 

[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for ia64/ia64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:20 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/ia64/ia64/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - TARGET=ia64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - TARGET_ARCH=ia64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:20:31 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:20:32 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 01:18:57 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - cd /src/sys/ia64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - cd /src/sys/ia64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - TARGET=ia64
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - TARGET_ARCH=ia64
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:18:57 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 01:18:57 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy 
% if_rum.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_rum.ko if_rum.kld
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/ia64/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h -I. 
-I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 
--param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -I/obj/ia64/src/sys/LINT 
-ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f32-f127 -fpic -ffreestanding -std=iso9899:1999 -Wall 
-Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign 
-fformat-extensions -c /src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/ia64/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:37:31 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:37:31 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:37:31 - 3959.70 user 527.77 system 4631.04 real


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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:27 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/powerpc/powerpc/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - TARGET=powerpc
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:48:38 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:48:38 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 01:31:15 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - TARGET=powerpc
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:15 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 01:31:15 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy 
% if_rum.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_rum.ko if_rum.kld
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h 
-I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 
--param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -mlongcall 
-fno-omit-frame-pointer -I/obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT -msoft-float -mno-altivec 
-ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall 
-Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign 
-fformat-extensions -c /src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:43:53 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:43:53 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:43:53 - 2796.39 user 441.25 system 3326.69 real


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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:08 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/sparc64/sparc64/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - TARGET=sparc64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - TARGET_ARCH=sparc64
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 00:51:19 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 00:51:19 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 01:31:24 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - cd /src/sys/sparc64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - cd /src/sys/sparc64/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - building LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - TARGET=sparc64
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - TARGET_ARCH=sparc64
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:31:24 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Jun  6 01:31:24 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
[...]
awk -f /src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_rum.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy 
% if_rum.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_rum.ko if_rum.kld
objcopy --strip-debug if_rum.ko
=== usb/run (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /obj/sparc64/src/sys/LINT/opt_global.h 
-I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 
--param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -I/obj/sparc64/src/sys/LINT 
-mcmodel=medany -msoft-float -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 
-fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef 
-Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:77:1: error: nitems 
redefined
In file included from 
/src/sys/modules/usb/run/../../../dev/usb/wlan/if_run.c:27:
@/sys/param.h:274:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb/run.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules/usb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /obj/sparc64/src/sys/LINT.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:44:40 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:44:40 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 01:44:40 - 2699.03 user 426.41 system 3212.26 real


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Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Daley


Maybe their knowledge of Linux drove them to use FreeBSD.  Sorry, 
couldn't resist ;)


On 06/05/2012 19:42, David Magda wrote:

On Jun 5, 2012, at 20:16, Scott Long wrote:


If you have any questions, let me know or follow the information links on the
OpenConnect web site.

Out of curiosity, given that Linux seems popular in so many other places 
(Google, Facebook), is there any particular reason why FreeBSD was chosen for 
this?

I'm sure Linux is used in many other places (much of Netflix's IT 
infrastructure is on Amazon IIRC), so I'm kind of surprised that they went with 
FreeBSD when they probably already have so much knowledge with Linux.

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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
  All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
  only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
  branched.
 
 If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
 
 However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
 is done for the ports tree.
 
I found now the point in which all normal users will give up:

The handbook states this:

Which version(s) of them do you want?

'With CVSup, you can receive virtually any version of the sources that ever 
existed. That is possible because the cvsupd server works directly from the CVS 
repository, which contains all of the versions. You specify which one of them 
you want using the tag= and date= value fields.

Warning: Be very careful to specify any tag= fields correctly. Some tags are 
valid only for certain collections of files. If you specify an incorrect or 
misspelled tag, CVSup will delete files which you probably do not want deleted. 
In particular, use only tag=. for the ports-* collections.'

Why should a normal user continue to search for a tag when the handbook is so 
clear on this?

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 05 June 2012 7:13:47 Mark Linimon wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote:
  But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?
 
 Entire tree.

my problem with this is that the documentation states something very different:

From the handbook at the location where beginners will look for it:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

'Which version(s) of them do you want?

With CVSup, you can receive virtually any version of the sources that ever 
existed. That is possible because the cvsupd server works directly from the CVS 
repository, which contains all of the versions. You specify which one of them 
you want using the tag= and date= value fields.

Warning: Be very careful to specify any tag= fields correctly. Some tags are 
valid only for certain collections of files. If you specify an incorrect or 
misspelled tag, CVSup will delete files which you probably do not want deleted. 
In particular, use only tag=. for the ports-* collections.'

I think that this states very clearly that there are no tags.

So, after we learned that every thing I am asking is there anyway in an 
official and supported way, only the documentation has to be changed.

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 06 June 2012 0:42:47 Mark Andrews wrote:
 
 In message 1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
  Hi,
  
  On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
branched.
   
   If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
   
   However, you can create a tag without creating a branch.  That is what
   is done for the ports tree.
   
  I found now the location where this information is missing for beginners.
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
  
  I simply cannot believe that beginners would expect this information to 
  find 
  this in the section for updating the kernel.
  
  Erich
 
 Because, while you believe it is better to roll back to the release
 point it really isn't.  The ports tree is rarely broken for long.
 When it is broken people will tell you to roll back to a good date
 and give you the date to use.  I've had to roll back a couple of
 times in 11+ years of updating and never to a release point.
 
 What is there is good advice.  Use a up-to-date ports tree.  If it
 is broken wait a days or so and try again.  If it is still broken
 report the problem using send-pr.
 
you will find thousands of notes that people should not run bleeding edge when 
it comes to the kernel.

But people are forced to run bleeding edge on the ports.

The documentation than even states that there is no fall back.

You state it as being just normal to wait for a week or more until the problem 
is solved. I cannot imagine that people who come to FreeBSD and get trapped 
somehow will stick to it then.

They might will ask on this list just to learn that there is no help available. 
Just wait.

People who have to make decisions what operating system should be used on their 
workplaces will not like this and stick with whatever they have.

I believe that this is a very good user repellent.

Erich
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Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Scott Long

On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:42 PM, David Magda wrote:

 On Jun 5, 2012, at 20:16, Scott Long wrote:
 
 If you have any questions, let me know or follow the information links on the
 OpenConnect web site.
 
 Out of curiosity, given that Linux seems popular in so many other places 
 (Google, Facebook), is there any particular reason why FreeBSD was chosen for 
 this?
 
 I'm sure Linux is used in many other places (much of Netflix's IT 
 infrastructure is on Amazon IIRC), so I'm kind of surprised that they went 
 with FreeBSD when they probably already have so much knowledge with Linux.
 
 

Linux works wonderfully on EC2 for our CC and computational tasks, FreeBSD is 
proving to work well on deployed hardware for serving bits.  It highly 
maintainable, and there's an excellent community supporting it.  From the 
website:

For the operating system, we use FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ version
9.0. This was selected for its balance of stability and features, a strong
development community and staff expertise. We will contribute changes we
make as part of our project to the community through the FreeBSD committers
on our team.



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[releng_8 tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2012-06-05 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - FreeBSD freebsd-legacy2.sentex.ca 9.0-RELEASE 
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 UTC 2012 
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - starting RELENG_8 tinderbox run for arm/arm
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:14 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h cvsup.sentex.ca 
/tinderbox/RELENG_8/arm/arm/supfile
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - building world
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - TARGET=arm
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - TARGET_ARCH=arm
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:11:41 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 World build started on Wed Jun  6 05:11:41 UTC 2012
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
 World build completed on Wed Jun  6 05:48:17 UTC 2012
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - cd /src/sys/arm/conf
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - /usr/sbin/config -m AVILA
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - building AVILA kernel
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - SRCCONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - TARGET=arm
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - TARGET_ARCH=arm
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - TZ=UTC
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - cd /src
TB --- 2012-06-06 05:48:17 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=AVILA
 Kernel build for AVILA started on Wed Jun  6 05:48:17 UTC 2012
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3.1: making dependencies
 stage 3.2: building everything
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-I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS 
-include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param 
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-ffreestanding -Werror  /src/sys/cam/cam_queue.c
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-ffreestanding -Werror  /src/sys/cam/ata/ata_xpt.c
cc -mbig-endian -c -O -pipe  -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls 

Re: Netflix's New Peering Appliance Uses FreeBSD

2012-06-05 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
   I didn't see a link to this information in the e-mail below.  I found this 
   info 
   detailed here: 
   
   
   https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/software
  
  If you come from an IP range outside of netflix' footprint, that
  page is not available.

Indeed, I found it a tad strange that URL redirecting to 
https://signup.netflix.com/global which sayeth:

Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country... yet

Enter your name and email address below
and we'll email you when Netflix is available.

  But have a look at that PDF, comes from their webpage:
  
  http://opsec.eu/backup/OpenConnectDeploymentGuide-v2.4a.pdf

Interesting box alright.  Hope it wasn't Top Secret in my country, and 
that I can ask my (Debian based) ISP when they'll be getting some? :)

Good to see Scott's found something to keep him off the streets too ..

cheers, Ian
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