Re: bhyve - ESXi comparison part 2

2014-01-31 Thread Peter Grehan
Hi Andrea, Here comes the part 2 of our bhyve - ESXi comparison. Excellent work :) My take is that there is more general hypervisor overhead with bhyve. Given that both user and system times from the benchmark are almost uniformally larger for bhyve in all tests points to this. There has

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2014-01-28 12:18, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve-vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ I

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
And lets not forget the head start vmware has (bhyve is what? 1-2 years old?) and the size of it. Less then 1mb in code. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Łukasz Wąsikowski luk...@wasikowski.netwrote: W dniu 2014-01-28 12:18, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: We did a very rough comparison betweend

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Yes, I tried to emphasized that both at the beginning and at the end of the post... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Matthias Gamsjager mgamsja...@gmail.comwrote: And lets not forget the head start vmware has (bhyve is what? 1-2 years old?) and the size of it. Less then 1mb in code. On

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2014-01-28 12:52, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: OK, I changed that, thanks for your feedback, my assumption was something like with bhyve it took the 106% of the time it took with VMWare, but probably the approach of bhyve being 6% slower is clearer. I think so too. Thank you for testing!

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Fixed, thanks. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Mark Martinec mark.martinec+free...@ijs.si wrote: http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve- vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ the seconds you see is a medium of all the values from the different machines medium??? A median

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
I'd have to find a different workload (compiling a port under linux makes no sense), but that something I was already thinking about. Anybody has any idea about that? It must be something that get's done the same way (so for example if we are compiling it has to be gcc vs. gcc, but gcc is not the

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Lars Engels
Am 2014-01-28 13:21, schrieb Andrea Brancatelli: Fixed, thanks. Could you also compare two instances of Linux inside bhyve and VMware? ___ freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Oh sorry you mean linux vs. linux! Then yes, I can do that! On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Andrea Brancatelli abrancate...@schema31.it wrote: I'd have to find a different workload (compiling a port under linux makes no sense), but that something I was already thinking about. Anybody has

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Neel Natu
Hi Andrea, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Andrea Brancatelli abrancate...@schema31.it wrote: Hello everybody. We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) Looks good to me :-)

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello Peter, unfortunately we've been a bit sloppy in tracking the time output because initially it was just an internal test, thus we don't have the details. We're setting up a new round of tests we'll run tomorrow and we'll track user/system/real in a more precise way; I will also publish a

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Unfortunately these are pre-production environments thus installing something fancy wasn't in our scope. If I can allocate some time and some hardware I'll try to. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Neel Natu neeln...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrea, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Andrea

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
OK, tomorrow I'll check. Today we tried the standard compile approach, compiling PERL to have something that would work at least a few minutes. To give you a fast anticipation, debian on bhyve took 2 minutes 23, while debian on vmware took 2 minutes and 7 seconds. Will update my post tomorrow

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Peter Grehan gre...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi Andrea, We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) Looks good to me :) Thanks for running the tests.

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
It would be interesting to know to how much and what extent various fronends (openstack, cloudstack, petitecloud, etc.) effect performence... I suspect that even though bhyve is slower then VMWare that VMWare's front end is the cause and not VMWare itself for example I suspect that bhyve with

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I have observed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS runs faster as a VM under bhyve the in does on bare metal (networking seems to be one of the key areas here as well as disk access) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: Am 2014-01-28 13:21, schrieb Andrea Brancatelli:

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
That's a lot of interesting input. Tomorrow we'll rearrange everything and redo all the testing. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Peter Grehan gre...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi Andrea, unfortunately we've been a bit sloppy in tracking the time output because initially it was just an internal

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Grehan
Tomorrow we'll rearrange everything and redo all the testing. One more item: when running the test with 20 x 2-vCPU VMs, make sure that the -P option is being used. This forces bhyve to do a vmexit when a PAUSE instruction is hit e.g. when the locking code starts spinning. This gives the

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Michael Dexter
On 1/28/14 4:10 PM, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: That's a lot of interesting input. Do try the ahci-hd VirtIO and may I suggest you update BHyVe to the current bhyve? It is the first point on the FAQ: http://bhyve.org/faq/ Michael ___