[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-18 Thread Daniel Markstedt

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Patch to change default despotism title to Chief. Won't break
translations, since "Chief" and "?female:Chief" is already in for
example zulu.ruleset.

 ~Daniel



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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-13 Thread Daniil Ivanov

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maybe tyrant?

BR, Daniil.



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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-13 Thread Daniil Ivanov

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On 14/03/07, Daniel Markstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's true that meeting up with "Chief George Washington" or "Chief
> Vladimir Lenin" in the early game is somewhat silly. But then again,
> so is having covered wagons and little men with bowlers and briefcases
> in the BCs. ;-)
>
>  ~Daniel

Not so silly. Lenin had such title after his death almost until 1991.

Thanks, Daniil.



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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-13 Thread Daniel Markstedt

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On 3/13/07, Daniil Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >
>
> On 13/03/07, Peter Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >
> >
> > Well, you could sort of build a tree or network with the different
> > ruler names and conditions when a different ruler name would be
> > appropriate( for example dictator might require republic to be
> > researched) but that would be overkill, wouldnt it? And if you went
> > further, you would even have different titles for different nations.
> > Prince is awkward because it comes later than dictator, while one
> > would expect something else, maybe despot, if republic and monarchy
> > hasnt been researched, and Prince if monarchy has been researched.
>
> I think Chieftain is good leader title for pre-monarchy period.
>
> Thanks, Daniil.
>

Agreed; that's clearly a title for a 'crude' form of government. Or
simply 'Chief' might be even better as a general 'cross cultural'
term.

It's true that meeting up with "Chief George Washington" or "Chief
Vladimir Lenin" in the early game is somewhat silly. But then again,
so is having covered wagons and little men with bowlers and briefcases
in the BCs. ;-)

 ~Daniel



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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-12 Thread Daniil Ivanov

http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >

On 13/03/07, Peter Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >
>
> Well, you could sort of build a tree or network with the different
> ruler names and conditions when a different ruler name would be
> appropriate( for example dictator might require republic to be
> researched) but that would be overkill, wouldnt it? And if you went
> further, you would even have different titles for different nations.
> Prince is awkward because it comes later than dictator, while one
> would expect something else, maybe despot, if republic and monarchy
> hasnt been researched, and Prince if monarchy has been researched.

I think Chieftain is good leader title for pre-monarchy period.

Thanks, Daniil.



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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-12 Thread Peter Schaefer

http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >

Well, you could sort of build a tree or network with the different
ruler names and conditions when a different ruler name would be
appropriate( for example dictator might require republic to be
researched) but that would be overkill, wouldnt it? And if you went
further, you would even have different titles for different nations.
Prince is awkward because it comes later than dictator, while one
would expect something else, maybe despot, if republic and monarchy
hasnt been researched, and Prince if monarchy has been researched.

On 3/13/07, Daniel Markstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >
>
> A year later, I'm still not satisfied with the default despotism
> title! In most cases, "Dictator" feels IMO clunky and out of place.
>
> New suggestion: Prince/Princess
>
> This is not a prince in the modern sense, as the offspring of a
> reigning monarch, but in the classical and medieval sense. The word
> traces its roots to the Roman Republic, where it meant something like
> "prime citizen" or just generically "leader". In medieval Europe, a
> prince was a reigning sovereign of a princely state or "principality",
> generally smaller than a kingdom or duchy. (Three principalities are
> still in existence today: Andorra, Lichtenstein and Monaco.)
>
> Equivalent terms in other languages include German "Fürst" and Russian 
> "knyaz".
>
>  ~Daniel
>
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[Freeciv-Dev] (PR#38046) default ruler titles, revisited

2007-03-12 Thread Daniel Markstedt

http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38046 >

A year later, I'm still not satisfied with the default despotism
title! In most cases, "Dictator" feels IMO clunky and out of place.

New suggestion: Prince/Princess

This is not a prince in the modern sense, as the offspring of a
reigning monarch, but in the classical and medieval sense. The word
traces its roots to the Roman Republic, where it meant something like
"prime citizen" or just generically "leader". In medieval Europe, a
prince was a reigning sovereign of a princely state or "principality",
generally smaller than a kingdom or duchy. (Three principalities are
still in existence today: Andorra, Lichtenstein and Monaco.)

Equivalent terms in other languages include German "Fürst" and Russian "knyaz".

 ~Daniel



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