Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
You both can be right. I think there is a reasonable split here: [1] Smaller languages (BASIC, Pascal?) basically fall in the same class as scripting languages and are useful to have available. [2] Huge developer environments make more sense on a more capable operating system where you cross

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
On 10/5/2023 4:44 AM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: Hallo Herr Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel, am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2023 um 02:50 schrieben Sie: On 10/3/2023 11:30 AM, Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel wrote: There is no point in punishing everybody by shipping tools that most >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
On 10/4/2023 10:45 PM, Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel wrote: I think you're blinded by DJGPP. At no point did I argue for keeping THAT mess in... or gcc-ia16. For the record, my reply was in response to Michael Brutman, not to you Rlaf ___

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Steve said: > I can't see what would need to be on base to make it more than about 20 > MB? And even that's pushing it hard. > > Maybe because I'm measuring by PC DOS 2000, which came on 6 floppies. > The FreeDOS distribution has a "LiveCD" component that allows users to boot the CD. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 10:29, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: The best solution would be three disks: BaseCD - no bigger than 300MB, only basic tools ApplicationCD - Editors, Gemes, Utilities - the lot DeveloperCD I agree

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
Hallo Herr Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel, am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2023 um 02:50 schrieben Sie: > On 10/3/2023 11:30 AM, Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel wrote: >> There is no point in punishing everybody by shipping tools that most > >> people don't use.  You can probably count all of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
Hi, > Honestly, I'd prefer a 3-tier split, actually. The Base CD should be > somewhere around 300MB max. Is it really a good idea for a medium, which supports ~700 MB of data, to restrict that to 300 MB? Considering one has to „burn“ the media, I favour burning one disk instead of two or

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Liam Proven via Freedos-devel
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 10:29, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: > > The best solution would be three disks: > > BaseCD - no bigger than 300MB, only basic tools > > ApplicationCD - Editors, Gemes, Utilities - the lot > > DeveloperCD I agree with this, FWIW. (Personally I would also rate xNix

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
Hi, I'm with Kirn on this one. I think people have a wrong idea what people use FreeDOS for, if at all. First of all, I think that the assumption that there's a mahoosive community out there might be a wee bit optimistic. It's probably rather modest, as not too many people these days use DOS for