error, meant to send to all too:
Thank you for clarifying, some civilry, glad to hear it, it's not only
about DOS My apologies. I had made another post about other uses for
DOS, and glad to learn things and grow. Someone speaking proverbs said the
wise person loves correction.
Richard.
On
Some people discuss Windows 3.11 development in the vogons forum related to
dosbox, dos, old hardware, and gaming. :-) https://www.vogons.org/
Some information about Windows 3.11 and 95 etc. for 30+ years now is:
https://www.mdgx.com/
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:54 PM Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel <
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From: Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:39:13 PM
To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] 16-bit Windows development
Hi!
> This group is about DOS, not about GEM.
Actually we includ
Hi!
This group is about DOS, not about GEM.
Actually we included GEM in our distro.
This group is about DOS, not DJGPP, 32-bit DPMI hosts aren't DOS.
Actually we use DJGPP to compile some of our 32-bit tools.
This group is about DOS, not random compression utilities like ZOO.
Actuall
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From: Richard Stoltenberg via Freedos-devel
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:18:13 PM
To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
Cc: Richard Stoltenberg
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] 16-bit Windows development
If it was leaked then certain
you could ask microsoft to opensource progman.exe it was dropped from
Windows Vista and later. They recently released MSDOS 4.00 under an MIT
License and people fixed and updated it to 4.01.
https://opensource.microsoft.com/blog/2024/04/25/open-sourcing-ms-dos-4-0/
On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 2:18 PM
If it was leaked then certain people wouldn't legally approve of it. With
a $35 monthly MSDN subscription, you had access to it binary for
development purposes. Don't know if still available. With wine you can
run windows 3.11 programs on Windows 10 and 11. This group is about DOS.
On Mon, Jun
> We could call it "Holes". Because a) it's tightly connected to "Windows"
IMO that's a pretty good name
> and b) there will be plenty of missing API for the foreseeable future.
for an unprobabable project.
> And Jim could announce this on June 29th :D
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 11:46:20 AM
To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] 16-bit Windows development
> Do you pla
questions for FreeDOS developers.
Cc: Kirn Gill
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] 16-bit Windows development
> Am 10.06.2024 um 23:51 schrieb Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel
> :
>
> VMM lives in WIN386.EXE, which is itself a DOS loader for VMM and a
> collection of VxDs. I'm working
> Am 10.06.2024 um 23:51 schrieb Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel
> :
>
> VMM lives in WIN386.EXE, which is itself a DOS loader for VMM and a
> collection of VxDs. I'm working on a tool in my spare time to do something
> akin to "readelf" but for MZ/NE/LE/PE. It's not complete by any measure, but
On 6/9/2024 5:11 AM, daniel silva ferreira bruno via Freedos-devel wrote:
Hi, people.
What about the ArcaOS? It can run Windows 16-bit applications among other
applications.
Cheers,
Daniel,
An enthusiastic for DOS from Brazil.
ArcaOS is proprietary, closed source development based on IBM's O
yes of course. Well aware.
It would be funny to see Microsoft Sue someone for a 30 year old os shell
though. Lol.
On Tue, 11 June 2024, 9:43 am Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel, <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024, Chelson a via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> > Yes ob
No, win11 is not what I'm suggesting. Far from it.
Im talking about the recently leaked 3.x code as a reference to start an
opensource version of the Windows 3.1 shell.
I played around with the react os code about 15 years ago to test out what
the cmd was capable of doing for running dos applicat
> Are you sure it would be easier?
For the most part. You really only need 286 Standard Mode for basic
"completeness". Obviously 386 Enhanced Mode is needed too, but not entirely
required (what about contemporaneous users of Windows 3.1 that only had a
286?)
> Especially reimplementing Win 3.1 en
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024, Chelson a via Freedos-devel wrote:
Yes obviously the legal side of things prevents using that code, it's also
a good reference of how it all works and you could build from scratch.
Do that and you'll be sued into the ground faster than you can say
"Chinese wall".
-uso.
Yes obviously the legal side of things prevents using that code, it's also
a good reference of how it all works and you could build from scratch.
If you just want to make programs just use visual basic like I did back in
the day to make new programs.. Quite limited by today's standards.
Or take t
Yes, you're right, Tom.
This is a side effect of ArcaOS.
Cheers,
Daniel,
An enthusiastic for DOS from Brazil.
Em domingo, 9 de junho de 2024 às 11:10:06 BRT, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
escreveu:
> What about the ArcaOS?
Are you missing the fact that it's neither free nor cheap.
> What about the ArcaOS?
Are you missing the fact that it's neither free nor cheap.
Tom
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2024, daniel silva ferreira bruno via Freedos-devel wrote:
Hi, people.
What about the ArcaOS? It can run Windows 16-bit applications among other
applications.
Cheers,
Daniel,
An enthusiastic for DOS from Brazil.
OS/2 is the rights snarl to end all rights snarls.
Also, it runs
Hi, people.
What about the ArcaOS? It can run Windows 16-bit applications among other
applications.
Cheers,
Daniel,
An enthusiastic for DOS from Brazil.
Em domingo, 9 de junho de 2024 às 08:36:26 BRT, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
escreveu:
Hi Bernd,
> To my knowledge, we do not have
Hi Bernd,
To my knowledge, we do not have a working open source DOS task switcher yet,
capable of switching between "multiple DOS sessions", or is there one?
There is TRIDOS, which was included in the old Blair distro of FreeDOS,
but it is far from perfect. You could compare the situation to
>
> Something targeting 16-bit Windows would be easier since the official API has
> been frozen since 1992
Are you sure it would be easier? Especially reimplementing Win 3.1 enhanced
mode would be very hard to implement, I think. To my knowledge, we do not have
a working open source DOS task s
ReactOS is a moving target because it tracks current Windows (for better or
for worse.)
Something targeting 16-bit Windows would be easier since the official API
has been frozen since 1992 (with a few additions for thunking added in
Windows 95 - but that's really only for interacting with 32-bit l
Yes, get the official code. The current kernel has the 3.51 NT kernel.
On Tue, 4 June 2024, 9:54 am Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel, <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Does anyone here have any experience with systems programming for 16-bit
> (DOS-based) versions of Windows?
>
> Do you k
On 6/3/2024 2:53 PM, Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with systems programming for
16-bit (DOS-based) versions of Windows?
Do you know of a good forum?
Has anyone attempted to clone Windows 3.x in the same way as ReactOS?
No. And it is doubtful that any
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