Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Jim Hall
Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> At present, only I update the "shipping packages”. > > > > On Jul 29, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Would it help you to have volunteers for the version checks? > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:01 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Version checking might help a little,

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:46:32 +0100 Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:21:25 +0200 > Robert Riebisch wrote: > > > Hi Jim, > > > > > What are the blocking issues or bugs in FreeDOS 1.3 RC4? (What remains > > > to be updated or fixed from RC4?) >

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Ralf Quint
On 7/27/2021 9:58 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: i) NLS support: Is there anybody who can tell me if all DOS commands support [J(a)|Nein] or [O(ui)|N(on)] etc. instead of [Y(es)|N(o)]? If not, they should do it. As a translator you never know what to do. That is rather one of the easier parts to

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel
Hi Robert, On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:21:25 +0200 Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Jim, > > > What are the blocking issues or bugs in FreeDOS 1.3 RC4? (What remains > > to be updated or fixed from RC4?) > > This COUNTRY.SYS issue is still not fixed after 1.5 years, although I > provided a patch to

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim, > What are the blocking issues or bugs in FreeDOS 1.3 RC4? (What remains > to be updated or fixed from RC4?) This COUNTRY.SYS issue is still not fixed after 1.5 years, although I provided a patch to the list

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Bret Johnson
You're obviously more familiar with what happens with non-English users than I am, so we'll use your recommendations and not worry about option-letters or documentation, at least for now. But I will still need to decide on how to compile and distribute things (separate executables, a single

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, thraex wrote: There's a saying in French, something like "The best is the enemy of good". As "Perfect is the enemy of good enough", it is almost a mantra in my circles. -uso. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread thraex
On 29.07.2021 17:44, Bret Johnson wrote: > While it should be relatively easy to write this output in another Indeed, looks like fairly doable :) > language, the options themselves are mnemonic to make it easier to > remember them (which is why I have some words capitalized in the >

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Jul 29, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > [..] > Whether you want to spend 10 of your precious 640 kB to > speed up floppy I/O depends on whether you use floppies. Not the only reason.. But, it is one of the reasons it is not run automatically in the installed systems config

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Bret Johnson
> DOS programs with source code? They include a free software > license (as > in freedom)? You have your translator for > French and Turkish. I can do the l10n if you do the i18n > part :-) Well, thanks for volunteering, but what I actually have in mind may be far more than you're willing to

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > I never said performance was not important. Only, there are more > important things for the installer that come first. Among those > are things like stability, portability, flexibility and others. > Improving performance is near or at the bottom of the list. I would definitely not

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-28 Thread tom ehlert
> to quote a 2018 FAT16 speed test example by Jack, copying a > mix of files and directories of different sizes disk to disk: very scientific precise wording;) even COPY or XCOPY may make a huge difference > Plain FreeDOS 65s > With LBACACHE 61s adds a small cache > With UIDE 51s adds UDMA and

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > reserved to condition for example yes, no, quit > 0.0:Y> 0.1:N > Space reserved to file diskcopy.c > (...) > 1.29:image file (Y/N)? > 1.30:disk (Y/N)? > 1.31:Copy another disk (Y/N)? Note that yes/no questions actually have kernel support. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-28 Thread thraex
On 28.07.2021 07:58, Bret Johnson wrote: > I saw Wilhelm's earlier comment and started thinking about some of its > implications: >   > i) NLS support: Is there anybody who can tell me if all DOS commands > support [J(a)|Nein] or [O(ui)|N(on)] etc. instead of [Y(es)|N(o)]? If > not, they should

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Bret Johnson
I saw Wilhelm's earlier comment and started thinking about some of its implications: i) NLS support: Is there anybody who can tell me if all DOS commands support [J(a)|Nein] or [O(ui)|N(on)] etc. instead of [Y(es)|N(o)]? If not, they should do it. As a translator you never know what to do.

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Tom, to quote a 2018 FAT16 speed test example by Jack, copying a mix of files and directories of different sizes disk to disk: Plain FreeDOS 65s With LBACACHE 61s adds a small cache With UIDE 51s adds UDMA and larger cache With UHDD 47s all the above plus read-ahead With XHDD 43s all the

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, One more thing... > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > [..] > There seems to be a bug in the overview HTML file, which says > the floppy edition images are 12 MB or use 120m or 144m media: > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > [..] > It also is important for me that old bugs in the autoexec and > config files get fixed. Given that some of those are created > dynamically, this is a task for the installer experts. See my > old mailing list thread about the

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread tom ehlert
Hi Eric, > It is important for me that both the installer and the installed > FreeDOS use UHDD when possible, to improve performance, given the > lack of I/O speed of our kernel itself, in particular for FAT32. could you please detail how you measured 'the lack of I/O speed of our kernel', and

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Eric Auer
Hi everybody, I also agree that there should be a next release candidate first, not immediately a FreeDOS 1.3 release. Even when RC5 is perfect, nobody would stop us from simply bumping the version number for release. And when it is not perfect, things can be improved before the actual

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread Wilhelm Spiegl
o.   This is only a collection of ideas that shall help to get FreeDOS to a "final" version.     Willi @ Thomas Muller: Is this text format ok?     Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:49 PM From: "thraex" To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel]

Re: [Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-27 Thread thraex
On 26.07.2021 01:29, Jim Hall wrote: > And: With the updates we have, are we ready to release this as > "FreeDOS 1.3" or do we need a "FreeDOS 1.4 RC5"? As a translator and somewhat a tester, IMHO a RC5 would be necessary. For example, when one chooses the French or Turkish (and possibly

[Freedos-devel] What are the blocking bugs/issues for FreeDOS 1.3?

2021-07-25 Thread Jim Hall
With the recent changes and updates (biggest recent updates include the kernel, FreeCOM, JEMM, SHSUCDX) I wanted to ask: What are the blocking issues or bugs in FreeDOS 1.3 RC4? (What remains to be updated or fixed from RC4?) And: With the updates we have, are we ready to release this as