Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-09 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 9-8-2011 3:06, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: I finally had a chance to do some testing. I believe it is a VirtualBox bug. VirtualPC and VirtualBox seem to have their issues. Other emulators show their own explicit nuisances as well ofcourse, but that seems to be more limited. I tried with

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-08 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Kenneth J. Davis jere...@fdos.org wrote: Work in progress ... As a side note, on my netbook using similar VirtualBox setup I have found that I can only use devload without any memory managers - something related to no UMBs so I need to see if it is a devload,

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-07 Thread cm
This version still has a known error with regard to CDS (drive assignment) - all drive letters are assigned successively (ie E: F: G:), if LASTDRIVE is reached it will gracefully handle that, but if there is a hole between used drive letters but it is not big enough for all units then it will

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-07 Thread cm
I think your only two choices are to abort, or to try skipping over the first hole you find and try to find another one with enough consecutive units. Ah, true, finding enough consecutive free CDS entries elsewhere would work too. However, as I stated in the other mail, I think that assigning

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-07 Thread Bret Johnson
Ah, true, finding enough consecutive free CDS entries elsewhere would work too. However, as I stated in the other mail, I think that assigning non-consecutive entries is possible too - and would probably do for most drivers. DOS only tells the driver what the first drive number is, and DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-07 Thread cm
If the driver status information gets displayed somehow, or there is some sort of interaction between the drives in the software, though, it would always assume things were consecutive. Yes. I think I've seen drivers which display messages like Installed num units, first drive letter:, which

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-06 Thread Bret Johnson
This version still has a known error with regard to CDS (drive assignment) - all drive letters are assigned successively (ie E: F: G:), if LASTDRIVE is reached it will gracefully handle that, but if there is a hole between used drive letters but it is not big enough for all units then it will

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-06 Thread Jim Hall
Anyone can please upload the __correct__ HISTORY.TXT file for the 2040 kernel release on some place where it is easily discoverable ? Both SF and fdos.org ? http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Unstable_Kernel_Branchaction=history  --- {{delete}} I have deleted

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-06 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hallo! Mceric == Eric (Auer) :P Geraldo Netto Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 6 August 2011 20:40, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: Anyone can please upload the __correct__ HISTORY.TXT file for the 2040 kernel release on some place where

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-06 Thread Jim Hall
Yes, I knew. Thanks. :-) On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Geraldo Netto geraldone...@gmail.com wrote: Hallo! Mceric == Eric (Auer) :P I have deleted the old Unstable_Kernel_Branch entry from our wiki. File history showed it was uploaded/owned by wiki user Mceric.

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread cm
I'm not clear what the 2nd bug is - but I think i get what u are saying, I don't handle case of initial drive letter already beyond available last drive, ie lastdrive=y and trying to use z may use invalid cds entry. Yes. Basically, whenever the offset that you initially use is beyond the last

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Work in progress see http://fdos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fdos/trunk/source/BASE/devload/devload.asm?r1=138r2=139 or download http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload.com I will work on releasing 3.25 tonight or tomorrow after I get feedback on the error levels to use and hopefully some

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread cm
hopefully some suggestions of multi device drivers to test with. When I wanted to know how to load multi-header device drivers, I created various drivers with NASM and tested them with various implementations. (I might still have these examples around somewhere at home. Unfortunately, I won't be

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 13:45, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: Work in progress see http://fdos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fdos/trunk/source/BASE/devload/devload.asm?r1=138r2=139 or download http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload.com I will work on releasing 3.25 tonight or tomorrow after I get feedback

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Aug 5, 2011 3:34 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 5-8-2011 13:45, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: Work in progress see http://fdos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fdos/trunk/source/BASE/devload/devload.asm?r1=138r2=139 or download http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload.com

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-05 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Hopefully last update for a while. :-) changes http://fdos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fdos/trunk/source/BASE/devload/devload.asm?r1=137r2=141 download http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload-3.25.zip This fixes a few issues from previous 3.24 release: - if initial CDS entry is invalid

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread cm
Please try http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload-3.23.zip and let me know if you experience any issues with it. I have done limited testing with it using shsucdx and tdsk and it seems to fix the issue. Note that if you install shsucdx then tdsk then uninstall shsucdx thus creating a

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread dos386
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/history.txt COOL :-) Eric wrote: Thank you, that is more search engine friendly than having to browse the www CVS/SVN page on sourceforge. However, you still need to use a search engine to find the history.txt, maybe we

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-8-2011 10:51, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: However, user-settable drive assignments would be interesting, ie, providing command line options to specify which drives are tried. I think SHSUCDX implements some such options. There's no technical reason DEVLOAD couldn't.) Hehe, feature

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread cm
Hehe, feature creep coming up :). as usual. * LASTDRIVE= modification on the fly. CDS resizing isn't trivial though. It is in fact quite complicated, and might be problematic in various environments (MSW, resident software keeping pointers into the CDS, etc). It will also usually fragment

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-8-2011 5:55, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: Please try http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload-3.23.zip and let me know if you experience any issues with it. Works for me so far, at least for Tdsk, SHSUCDX and SUBST. Didn't test MS-Client ('d have to dig up some ModBoot or Nwdsk bootdisk

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread cm
I'll take this in as DEVLOAD 3.23. Your own decision if you prefer implementing Christian Masloch's improvements and perhaps even some additional features. I would be inclined to answer in a most cynical fashion if you indeed did call the bug fixes I suggested improvements (optional ones

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 2:44, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: I would be inclined to answer in a most cynical fashion if you indeed did call the bug fixes I suggested improvements (optional ones nevertheless) here. I hope you didn't! (That's not to say I'd force anyone to implement whatever I am

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Please test lastest version of devload - version 3.24 available for the time being at http://www.fdos.org/kernel/testing/devload-3.24.zip For changes since 3.23 see http://fdos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fdos/trunk/source/BASE/devload/devload.asm?r1=133r2=138 Basically this adds the /Dx option

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread cm
I am still not sure number of block drives would ever not be = used CDS entries, The related bug I reported would occur with number of block drives == total CDS entries too, not just . Regards, Christian --

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 2:53, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: letter used (0 based, so A=0 and Z=25, note that I only tested C: or higher) and 255 on error. What if the driver being loaded doesn't assign a driveletter? DEVLOAD UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001 A succes for that would be 0 , but as you start with 0 any

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread cm
Additionally, I had thought the later check would be sufficient for the LASTDRIVE check, but upon review I see it was not, so implemented explicit check if we reached last drive [currently only tested with default lastdrive = Z]. Your change fails to fix the second bug. The check on line

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Aug 4, 2011 9:08 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 5-8-2011 2:53, Kenneth J. Davis schreef: letter used (0 based, so A=0 and Z=25, note that I only tested C: or higher) and 255 on error. What if the driver being loaded doesn't assign a driveletter? DEVLOAD UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-04 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Aug 4, 2011 9:13 PM, c...@bttr-software.de wrote: Additionally, I had thought the later check would be sufficient for the LASTDRIVE check, but upon review I see it was not, so implemented explicit check if we reached last drive [currently only tested with default lastdrive = Z]. Your

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-03 Thread e . auer
Hi Rugxulo, thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2040/ would you be able and willing to copy the kernel's changelog as it's in CVS/SVN right now, to above directory? DOS386 and/or Christian

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-03 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-8-2011 3:58, Rugxulo schreef: Well, I half expected you to e-mail me back already! Gosh I'm impatient. ;-) Anyways, I went ahead and just uploaded history.txt (why not?), so there. ;-) http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/history.txt (Note that I

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-03 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 31-7-2011 16:48, Bernd Blaauw schreef: Op 31-7-2011 16:36, Tom Ehlert schreef: Bernd, assign a fix (W:) drive letter to the CD drive; Tom Experimented a little bit more: TDSK takes first driveletter after what

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 2-8-2011 3:01, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: Unrelated: the software list says that the most recent version of DEVLOAD is 3.22, but I couldn't find that right away. Is that an error in the software list or did I just not find it? I'm pretty sure Jim forgot to update this when Jeremy

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 2-8-2011 3:01, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: Unrelated: the software list says that the most recent version of DEVLOAD is 3.22, but I couldn't find that right away. Is that an error in the software list or did I

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-8-2011 0:26, Rugxulo schreef: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/devload/ thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2040/ would you be able and willing to copy the kernel's

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 3-8-2011 0:26, Rugxulo schreef: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/devload/ thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well.

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: thanks, noticed kernel 2040 is listed on Ibiblio now as well. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2040/ would you be

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-01 Thread cm
Just for the record, I think the problem is that DEVLOAD only looks for block devices and will overwrite existing CDS entries if there is no associated block device. Which is the wrong thing to do. Regards, Christian --

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 1-8-2011 15:29, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: Just for the record, I think the problem is that DEVLOAD only looks for block devices and will overwrite existing CDS entries if there is no associated block device. Which is the wrong thing to do. I hope there's a remedy to this, if this is

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-08-01 Thread cm
I hope there's a remedy to this, if this is the case. Yes; patch DEVLOAD (or get someone to do it). I'd have to find other .SYS block device drivers to see how they behave under DEVLOAD, and other device driver loaders like Creative's CTLOAD and whichever program it was that QEMM had.

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Ehlert
Bernd, assign a fix (W:) drive letter to the CD drive; Tom am 31. Juli 2011 um 14:45 schrieben Sie: I'm experimenting a bit with TDSK as I can see use for a ramdisk in situations with read-only media and no memory drivers. Thus a small conventional memory ramdisk needed for tiny temporary

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-07-31 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 31-7-2011 16:36, Tom Ehlert schreef: Bernd, assign a fix (W:) drive letter to the CD drive; Tom or load TDSK before loading CD drivers, etc. SRDISK respects driveletters, as do RDISK, SHSURDRV, XMSDSK etc. As both SRDISK and TDSK are GPL it might be possible to copy some init code. Your

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-07-31 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 31-7-2011 16:48, Bernd Blaauw schreef: Op 31-7-2011 16:36, Tom Ehlert schreef: Bernd, assign a fix (W:) drive letter to the CD drive; Tom Experimented a little bit more: TDSK takes first driveletter after what seems to be last block device. Having harddisk (C:), then CDROM (D:) then

Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.

2011-07-31 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 31-7-2011 16:58, Bernd Blaauw schreef: Op 31-7-2011 16:48, Bernd Blaauw schreef: Op 31-7-2011 16:36, Tom Ehlert schreef: Bernd, assign a fix (W:) drive letter to the CD drive; Now I'll be done talking to myself.. Issue solved: SHSUFDRV does the trick as it installs as block device,