[Freedos-kernel] KERNEL 2042 and its attachments (AKA SYS)
I downloaded and installed the new kernel, and looked a bit and tested a bit. There is a version history file included and it lists a few detail improvements. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/history.txt <- outdated Are there some major applications that previously didn't work but now should work (Watcom debugger ? DGJPP ? ...) ? shots: http://www.xaver.me/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Gallery#toc18 - (C) still says "2012" There is a "SYS.COM" 3.6 included recompiled with new date but not consistent with "SYS.COM" 3.7 or 3.8 from here: http://www.fdos.org/kernel/sys ... what's the point of those 2 branches of SYS? The source code looks inconsistent (2 branches developed separately ?), some files differ by whitespace only. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any history file for "SYS.COM". What is the preferable version of SYS ? -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2042 release
> Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2042 release Thanks :-) (I'll test) -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] A question about the behavior of the NUL device in FreeDOSS 1.1
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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Commit 1705
Kernel 2041 seems to be out: http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/files/Kernel/2041/ (untested, just history.txt __IS__ updated this time) but nobody annouced it :-D -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
License evilness. Better to have the EDR DOS style hack for files above 4 GB file size than that. Than what that ??? Isn't it the same thing ??? How about 64 kB? Heh ??? DOS can read or write full 64 KiB (DX=0 ??? or is it only 64'000 Byte's ???). I think some hacks even support 128 kB I would highly nonrecommend hacks using 128 KiB clusters (maybe that's what you meant ?). -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
PS: You could also compare EDRDOS+UIDE with FreeDOS+UIDE. IIRC I tested some caches in the past. Result: NO SPEEDUP at all for a single big file. the data are useless :( NOT that bad ... unless dos386 describes what program(s) he used My silly FATPLUS.EXE maybe ??? on what hardware to produce these results Almost documented: ATA-33 and XDMA does not specify which int21 functions Block size 56 KiB | AH=$3F AH=$40 ??? http://www.ctyme.com/intr/rb-2783.htm Hadn't known there would be more ... Shouldn't it be sufficient to seek to the desired size (as offset), then do a write with length zero there? (Writing with length zero extends or truncates the file to the current seek offset.) Not yet tested the sparse hack ... my bad :-( -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
I am working on updating my site as I move files to my new host.
www.fdos.org/kernel is updated.
Anyone can please upload the __correct__ HISTORY.TXT file for
the 2040 kernel release on some place where it is easily discoverable ?
Both SF and fdos.org ?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/files/Kernel/2040/
http://www.fdos.org/kernel/
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Unstable_Kernel_Branchaction=history
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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
It's history.txt inside the doc directory, inside the zip archive. No, it's outdated: 2011-04-09 ... http://freedos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freedos/kernel/trunk/docs/history.txt?revision=1640view=markupsortby=datepathrev=1640 -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
More tests: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/perftest.txt -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
Also available for download at fdos.org http://www.fdos.org/ Content has not yet been moved to this host - please visit http://www.fdos.info (mirror) in the meantime http://www.fdos.info/ This page last updated - July 17, 2006 http://www.fdos.info/obten.html.en FreeDOS Beta8 (Nikita) information. jeme...@computer.org June 09, 2002 Someone please look into the outdated pages ;-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] [Freedos-user] New kernel
In my tests 2039 turned out to be unusable so please use 2040 ;-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Kernel 2040 released
Kernel 2040 has been tagged and should be made available on Sourceforge file releases within next few days It is now: http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/ + it does boot (no further tests yet) - history.txt is lowercase and not updated: 2011 Apr xx - Build 2040 Jeremy Davis, Bart Oldeman + Changes Jeremy * r1501 sys/sys.c: correct return value from NULL to FALSE - fix compile with OW1.9 - some packages have bumped file dates, some not Even more outdated: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Unstable_Kernel_Branch -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] CRITICAL BUG - crosslinked files - 2039 unusable
Did you try out this kernel? Not yet (my ToTest pipeline is crowded ...) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] CRITICAL BUG - crosslinked files - 2039 unusable
Hi 1. No new details to the Crosslink-BUG ... cluster size is 4 KiB :-| Why do you refer to an obsolete mail ? Half of it is not a bug, the other half is... What ??? This is because DIR tells you how much space is used / free. the which you mention, you force a recalculation... I never said the delay would be a BUG ... 6. Try to brew a file or SUBDIR (MD) - expected result: should work - effective result: DOESN'T WORK Do you also get problems with file creation See above: Try to brew a __file__ or SUBDIR or test yourself ;-) or growth, as far as those involve allocation of more clusters? No test on growth If yes, which problems, just failure? Or creation of cross links? Apparently no crosslinks (and no changes to the disk ???) EDR-DOS doesn't have this bug. It probably also has the delay? YES. BTW, my great new filesystem addresses this issue and tries to be more smart and less slow, nevertheless, the reevaluation and the risk that the reported free space may be inequal to the effective one can't be completely assassinated, or at least I have no idea how :-( I assume by bug you only mean the problem of creating a directory after invalidating FS-Info? YES. or file ;-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] CRITICAL BUG - crosslinked files - 2039 unusable
Well, the tracker entry is 28 days old, this discussion is 12 days old, and ... this is not the first time I have to whine about the user base of FreeDOS, if such a thing exists at all. At least, this time the BUG got opened by http://sourceforge.net/users/tnavratil/ Tnavratil, not me. So new results: - To reproduce this BUG, following might be necessary: - - 2039 kernel (but no final evidence that 2038 is NOT affected) - - FAT28 - - 6 GiB volume - - 4 KiB cluster size - - Disk almost full (95%) OTOH no need to fire disk full ERROR - - Free space heavily fragmented - - Copy (COPY) some (many ? 10 ?) files onto the volume, kick a few (DEL) of them, copy some (many ? 10 ?) more - Result: horrible mess. Many bunches of crosslinked files, per 2 or more members, usually icluding 2 files copied just atfer each other or almost, but also old files (properly defragmented to to begin of drive before) are included and corrupted. Cluster chain missmatching directory entry size. Lost cluster chains. - The INTERESTING THING is visible inside the directory: all the evil and new files, whether crosslinked or not, have the UPPER 16 bits of STARTING CLUSTER ZERO !!! This is illegal, since there was 256 MiB ( 4 KiB * 64 Ki ) of compact space occupied before the test !!! So the 2039 kernel FORGETS the upper 16 bits at some time and starts WRITING INTO the OCCUPIED area at the volume start, corrupting the files hanging there !!! Well, I invested a considerable amount of time into investigating this BUG, and caused a considerable data damage, there is no doubt that the 2039 kernel has a CRITICAL BUG ... what now ??? Are there really only 2 users who complained so far, within 4+1/2 months after the kernel release ? Anyone is able to fix it ? [silly] http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=6418 [/silly] -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] CRITICAL BUG - crosslinked files - 2039 unusable
Well, got __STRANGE__ news: 1. No new details to the Crosslink-BUG ... cluster size is 4 KiB :-| 2. Discovered a NEW BUG: - present in both 2038 and 2039 - not critical - possibly related to the Crosslink-BUG (probability not very high ...) - reproductability as ALWAYS :-) Steps to repropduce: 1. Get WDE or similar 2. Overwrite both entries in FS-info sector with $' 3. Reboot to FreeDOS 4. DIR - there is a massivre delay at the end 5. DIR - no delay anymore 6. Try to brew a file or SUBDIR (MD) - expected result: should work - effective result: DOESN'T WORK 7. Retry and it will work now EDR-DOS doesn't have this bug. -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] CRITICAL BUG - crosslinked files - 2039 unusable
I'm having a look Thanks :-) how large is your FAT partition exactly? Cca 6 GiB , have to check the other PC ... There is always the GB/GiB confusion... 1 GiB = 2^30 Bytes 1 GB = ??? (don't know don't use) what is the cluster size (I'm looking for potential overflows) 4 or 8 KiB , have to check the other PC ... does it happen with plain FreeCOM COPY, XCOPY, or any copy? Happens with plain FreeCOM COPY, not necessarily excluding other copy or writing. ** I came across a bug in the new kernel that might be related Really ??? If I copy a file from disk ro a floppy *using NDN F5* the copy is ok and any further operations with NDN crashes. Details, screenshot, have to reboot ??? If I use the copy command everything is ok. Floppies usually don't use FAT28 :-D This is probably memory related How much mem, XMS host, EMM386, minimal file size to reproduce ??? but does not happen with older kernel. So it depends only from the kernel ? I have no idea for now, really strange :-( -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] Freedos boot floppy and claimed bugs
The kernel may need to work around the Linux VFAT patent avoidance HACK in Linux kernel 2.6.30+, which writes 100% illegal names to the SFN entry when LFNs are used. Christian was going to include a workaround in Rx-DOS (NASM GPL code); it may help to see that. COOL. Now really nobody can whine about the evil FAT+ hack violating the saint FAT spec by MacroSoft saying that no file may have more than 4GB ... :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] kernel 2038
Tested and didn't find anything eclatantly evil so far :-) - It works mostly, see shot: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4611/ker2038.png - my GetDiskFreeSpaceEx bug seems fixed - history.txt neglects any development, oops Eric already pointed it, also, the filename should be HISTORY.TXT and not history.txt of course SourceForge page still shows 2006-May-21 (3 years old !!!), so, those having the power please fix this now or give the power to someone else. -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] ASUS problem
Does anyone have any information or Idea about this problem? Would any of Jack's driver help? Maybe __removing__ drivers and avoidable memory managers would be the more promising approach ... YES, a ramdisk (I use SRDISK) is a way to avoid the HD and possibly bugged INT $13 support. Also, a different kernel (EDR-DOS) is a good idea to test. -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
[Freedos-kernel] test
as Eric suggested :-D -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
[Freedos-kernel] kernel 2038
Kernel 2038 tagged and available at http://www.fdos.org/kernel/latest/ Thanks :-) Even my GetDiskFreeSpaceEx-BUG is fixed ? I'll test :-) Someone with access, please upload to ibiblio and release on SF. Indeed ... now it says latest kernel is from 2006 !!! Depending on any reported issues, 2039 scheduled to be released in about a month. COOL. But why not 2040 ? The 2036/2037/2038 mess has been around for 5 years ;-) -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] kernel 2038
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