Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: A protected mode dos like the one under Windows 9x and Windows ME could be interesting and would justifiably deserve a different name like Freedos-32. The problem with a dos environment is that there isn't an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: There are some programs that require Windows 3.1 or 3.11 which can run on top of Freedos, but more work on compatibility would not hurt. While I agree in theory, there just aren't enough skilled developers

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:38 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: A protected mode dos like the one under Windows 9x and Windows ME could be interesting and would justifiably deserve a different

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? I'm pretty sure there was still DOS underneath like in ME. Removing the real

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? I'm pretty sure

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:05 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? Don't have

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Hall
A hypervisor that can run dosbox and make modern hardware work with old dos programs anyone? How about dosbox running on a Pentium 133 or a Pentium 166 machine with 16 megs of ram? Insufficient demand to justify the effort. There may not be a lot of demand, but I see it as an interesting

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: At the moment, I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Robinson
Most embedded processors (that are still actively produced) are 32-bit. Anyways, I don't think FreeDOS qualifies, at least not for 8-bit (AVR??) ones. PIC16F505, PIC16F1938... these are microchip baseline 8 bit microprocessors intended for embedded use. Yes microchip offers 32 bit

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Louis Santillan
An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani). -L On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 04:15 PM 1/9/2013, Michael Robinson wrote: Most embedded

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villanihttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani). Well, you noticed that in that

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: EMS used a 64KB page frame located in the block between 640K and 1MB, and paged memory above 1MB into it for use. I vaguely thought EMS 4.0 didn't need a page frame? (Where's Eric to explain all this when you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: A hypervisor that can run dosbox and make modern hardware work with old dos programs anyone? How about dosbox running on a Pentium 133 or a Pentium 166 machine with 16 megs of ram? Insufficient demand to justify the

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread Louis Santillan
There's always DEBUG QBASIC. :D Remember when magazines used to actually post DEBUG QBASIC scripts. -L On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:54 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

2013-01-09 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] On Wed,