Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Jim Hall
Caldera's release of DR-DOS and OpenDOS was definitely NOT under an "open source" or "FOSS" license. The terms were basically "look but do not touch." You could not make any derivatives from that source code, and could only refer to it for "educational" purposes. On Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 9:39 AM

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread tom ehlert
>> while technically true, it couldn't just multitask ramdom DOS programs >> as multi tasking systems like OS/2 or better always could. > Yes, it can. I have tested it with, for example, the MS-DOS Editor > from Windows 98SE on one screen, WordPerfect 6.2 on another screen and > MS Word 6 on a

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 19:25, Jim Hall wrote: > > Caldera's release of DR-DOS and OpenDOS was definitely NOT under an "open > source" or "FOSS" license. Caldera claimed it was. Here is the press announcement: https://web.archive.org/web/19961018220910/http://caldera.com/news/pr002.html > The

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread John Vella
I'm guessing that I'm the only one who isn't interested in connecting to the Internet using freedos. I wouldn't have a problem with others doing it,but for me it would be yet another distraction.  On Sat, 25 Dec 2021, 14:19 Travis Siegel, wrote: > How very cool. Wasn't aware that had been

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread TK Chia
Hello Travis, linux box setup and transferred the domain to that.  The nice thing about using dos for your networking, (which someone else said way more eloquently than I could, paraphrasing here), is that since dos doesn't have a native tcp/ip stack, if the app dies, so does the tcp/ip

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread tom ehlert
>> That was caldera that released their opendos as opensource, not Microsoft. > Caldera released Digital Research's DR DOS 7.01 as FOSS. It then > changed its mind and made v7.092 closed-source again, but 7.01 remains > FOSS and turned into OpenDOS, AKA DR OpenDOS and Open DR DOS. > And, for

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 21:21, tom ehlert wrote: > > while technically true, it couldn't just multitask ramdom DOS programs > as multi tasking systems like OS/2 or better always could. Yes, it can. I have tested it with, for example, the MS-DOS Editor from Windows 98SE on one screen, WordPerfect

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Travis Siegel
I did see msdos 5.0 source code online several years ago.  I'm fairly certain MS never released that as any kind of source distribution, but nonetheless, it's out there. On 12/25/2021 10:38 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 05:43, Travis Siegel wrote: That was caldera that

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Travis Siegel
Actually, there's a program called ka9q (and some derivatives such as tnos) that can handle all the internet stuff for you. They use packet drivers to handle the connections, and I remember I used to use them with some 3com 509 cards I had.  I ran my softcon.com domain off of ka9q for nearly a

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 05:43, Travis Siegel wrote: > > That was caldera that released their opendos as opensource, not Microsoft. Caldera released Digital Research's DR DOS 7.01 as FOSS. It then changed its mind and made v7.092 closed-source again, but 7.01 remains FOSS and turned into OpenDOS,

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Travis Siegel
How very cool.  Wasn't aware that had been done.  Thanks for that.  Now I need to find some time to actually look at that, old as it is, I'm always fascinated by such things. Would have been nice if they'd released 3.3 though, since that's a lot closer to being useful. :) On 12/24/2021

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Joao Silva
Hello! Merry Christmas above all. I wouldn't mind have dos or freedos for a main computer, but i mainly have more games than programs (not games aren't programs) and the problem with both DOS is hardware. I've stated before the main and i wont say "problem" but issue is hardware. In my main PC i

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Travis Siegel
Yes, 6.2, not 5.0 as I mentioned in my previous reply to this thread, thanks for that correction. On 12/25/2021 3:03 PM, tom ehlert wrote: That was caldera that released their opendos as opensource, not Microsoft. Caldera released Digital Research's DR DOS 7.01 as FOSS. It then changed its

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 01:42, tom ehlert wrote: > I have to accept that as true. Though 'multiscreening' is not what > everybody thinks of when thinknig 'multitasking'. I can't help what people may think. All I can do is when I see people spreading incorrect information, I can answer with the

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Jon Brase
, Two things here: First, I've heard rumors (possibly true, possibly just people trying to make MS look incompetent) that MS actually lost the source code to some unspecified legacy version of Windows at some point (has to be legacy because if it had been a then-current main product line it

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-25 Thread Thomas Mueller
from John Vella: > I'm guessing that I'm the only one who isn't interested in connecting to > the Internet using freedos. I wouldn't have a problem with others doing > it,but for me it would be yet another distraction. 😀 I would like to connect to the Internet using FreeDOS, but I haven't