Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDISK another partition problem

2005-07-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:56:40 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Gerry,

But you didn't tell it to write an MBR?

FDISK should automatic update the MBR when quit (or I'm wrong?)

OK, but if there was no MBR, this may not create one. That's what my 
earlier post was all about. Can you try this (all data will be lost)

1. Boot FreeDOS on a floppy (or whatever) Make sure FDISK is 1.3.x or above

2. FDISK /CLEARALL 1

Ha ha ... some days ago I've tried already ... failed.

After the MS-DOS FDISK, I feel strange that only 8GB (Eric explained
it's cause by CHS), okay ... try again with FreeDOS ... this time
works!

(that's a number one assuming your physical drive number is one)

3. FDISK /MBR

Also tried.

4. FDISK /PRI:2000

What is it?
After it works, I can't fail it again (or I can try break and rebuild
the RAID), next week I'll try again.

5. Reboot it

6. FORMAT C: /S

7. Reboot it again

What happens now?

Please wait a few days, I'll try it Monday afternoon.

Yes, that's what I'm thinking. The problems will arise when you can't do 
multi-tasking and multi-threading, and utilizing full power of load 
balancing on dual XEON:(

yeah ... Dual CPU will have problem, wasting one of the CPU.

Too bad there's no more Desqview  I love it.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael:

Well, what's trying to use it is the FreeCOM VOL command!
(Or something else in FreeCOM).  I doubt that there are
any explicit calls to VDS functions there.  The kernel may
be more likely.

This appears to be the same bug that caused FDISK to
wipe out the MBR, so it at least appears that just initializing
the VDS functions is trashing something in memory.

I could ship you this laptop if you believe that will help or
I can run any test routines you can think of!

Mark Bailey




 At 11:53 PM 7/28/2005 +, Mark wrote:
 
 Do I need VDS?  :-)  What does it do?  How can I help
 identify the problem?  I do have the Haunted HP Pavilion (TM)!
 
 Turn it off if everything works without it.  It's just for upper memory 
 reporting of true physical address instead of logical address for DMA 
 purposes.  Maybe something is trying to use a function that isn't supported 
 or ignoring a return code that a sub-function is not supported.  You don't 
 see any feedback messages when it's present do you?  VDS will write to 
 display a line about unsupported functions, but can't help if a program 
 tries to use a subfunction that returns an unsupported code.
 
 Without the machine that croaks, though, not much chance I can tell you 
 what's going on with the VDS problem.  Could be the fault of either VDS 
 support, or what's trying to use VDS.  And no way of knowing here what or 
 how to fix/work around it.
 
 I was going to make VDS a default, maybe I shouldn't.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore

At 10:13 AM 7/29/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote:


This appears to be the same bug that caused FDISK to
wipe out the MBR, so it at least appears that just initializing
the VDS functions is trashing something in memory.


No such thing.  VDS functions just are, they don't initialize.  Only thing 
that VDS actively changes is that INT 4Bh is revectored and a bit is set at 
40:7bh.


Ha!  That's it.  Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH.  It must be passing the 
register value that VDS interprets as a VDS function, which means AH = 
81h.  Hmm, let me look things over to see if there's a way to resolve the 
conflict by further determining the difference or if it's inherently 
incompatible.





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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore

At 12:42 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, I wrote:

Ha!  That's it.  Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH.  It must be passing the 
register value that VDS interprets as a VDS function, which means AH = 
81h.  Hmm, let me look things over to see if there's a way to resolve the 
conflict by further determining the difference or if it's inherently 
incompatible.


Okay, this looks like the smoking gun.  Now to figure out a workaround:

INT 4B - Common Access Method SCSI interface (draft revision 1.9)

ES:DI - CAM Control Block (see #03229 at INT 4F/AX=8100h)
InstallCheck:   test for the string SCSI_CAM eight bytes past the INT 4Bh
  handler
Notes:  the CAM committee moved the interface to INT 4F after revision 1.9
  to avoid conflicting with the IBM SCSI interface and the Virtual
  DMA specification
the only driver to date reported to use the CAM interface on INT 4B
  instead of INT 4F is from Future Domain (which has drivers for CAM
  on either interrupt)

INT 4F - Common Access Method SCSI interface rev 2.3 - SEND CCB TO XPT/SIM
AX = 8100h
ES:BX - CAM Control Block (CCB) (see #03229)
Return: AH = status
00h successful
01h invalid CCB address (h:h)
Note:   the SCSI Interface Module (SIM) may complete the requested function




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[Freedos-user] Important ... about FD-EMM386 VDS

2005-07-29 Thread Johnson Lam
Hi,

Jack R. Ellis have message:

-
I have read all the comments on FD-User re: Mark Bailey's problem
using the FD-EMM386 VDS parameter.   I also noted Mike DeVore's
reply, that using VDS only enables 32-bit physical addresses to
be reported for upper-memory addresses, that he thought of making
VDS a default, and he now wonders if this should NOT be so.

First, any DMA device whose hardware uses physical 32-bit address
values REQUIRES that its DOS driver is able to INITIALIZE its own
internal addresses.   The 32-bit address is found by a VDS lock
on a given memory space.   Thus, if ANY upper memory is active, a
VDS lock and VDS unlock (in case drivers decide NOT to load!)
MUST ALSO BE ACTIVE, or any driver/TSR loaded in upper memory may
initialize itself IMPROPERLY and may CRASH!!!

Second, EMM386/QEMM/386MAX/etc. WERE NOT cooked-up only to create
upper memory!   Windows 3.1 and other multi-task DOS environments
switch from one task to another using an 80386 memory re-map,
NOT a (slow) disk swap as some MISTAKENLY believe!   Any active
device drivers ought not be part of re-mapping, or system speed
will suffer.   Any active DMA buffers MUST NOT be re-mapped, or
the system can CRASH!   To avoid buffer re-mapping, DMA drivers
use a VDS lock on user buffers before DMA begins and use a VDS
unlock on user buffers after DMA ends.   This ALSO requires that
VDS lock and VDS unlock calls MUST BE IMPLEMENTED when needed
i.e. whenever ANY upper memory is used!

I AM NOT saying this only on behalf of UDMA2!   Other DMA drivers
ARE ALSO written to follow Microsoft's unwritten RULES, in MS-DOS
V4.49 EMM386 (on my MS-DOS V6.22) and likely in ALL MS-DOS EMM386
drivers DESPITE their documentation!   These unwritten RULES are:

   A) If ANY upper-memory will be used when MS-DOS EMM386 loads,
 VDS calls are always ACTIVE!   Thereafter, upper-memory
 and VDS calls can NEVER be DISABLED!
   B) If upper-memory WILL NOT be used when MS-DOS EMM386 loads,
 VDS calls are left INACTIVE!   Thereafter, upper-memory
 and VDS calls can NEVER be ENABLED!

As may be seen in the preceding two paragraphs, THERE ARE REASONS
why MS-DOS EMM386 drivers run on such unwritten and STRICT rules!
Ordinary users MUST NOT have control on the presence or absence
of VDS lock/unlock calls, or CRASHES which those users CANNOT
debug WILL HAPPEN!   Say what-you-will of Microsoft; but they DID
learn NOT to let ordinary users TRIP over their own appendages!

As I noted to Jim Hall and Bernd Blaauw in an E-Mail during 2004,
FD-EMM386 must implement the same rules as MS-DOS EMM386, QEMM or
other available DOS Expanded Memory Managers!   If not, FreeDOS
can expect UDMA2 and all other DMA drivers written to Microsoft's
[POORLY understood] standards sooner-or-later WILL CRASH!!!




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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi Michael:

Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected
machines?  How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-)

Mark

Michael Devore wrote:

At 12:42 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, I wrote:

Ha!  That's it.  Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH.  It must be passing the 
register value that VDS interprets as a VDS function, which means AH = 
81h.  Hmm, let me look things over to see if there's a way to resolve 
the conflict by further determining the difference or if it's 
inherently incompatible.



Okay, this looks like the smoking gun.  Now to figure out a workaround:

INT 4B - Common Access Method SCSI interface (draft revision 1.9)

ES:DI - CAM Control Block (see #03229 at INT 4F/AX=8100h)
InstallCheck:   test for the string SCSI_CAM eight bytes past the INT 4Bh
  handler
Notes:  the CAM committee moved the interface to INT 4F after revision 1.9
  to avoid conflicting with the IBM SCSI interface and the Virtual
  DMA specification
the only driver to date reported to use the CAM interface on INT 4B
  instead of INT 4F is from Future Domain (which has drivers for 
CAM

  on either interrupt)

INT 4F - Common Access Method SCSI interface rev 2.3 - SEND CCB TO XPT/SIM
AX = 8100h
ES:BX - CAM Control Block (CCB) (see #03229)
Return: AH = status
00h successful
01h invalid CCB address (h:h)
Note:   the SCSI Interface Module (SIM) may complete the requested function




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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore

At 02:58 PM 7/29/2005 -0400, Mark wrote:


Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected
machines?  How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-)


Here's what to do:

Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download 
EMMBLORT.ZIP.  Try that version of EMM386.EXE with your machine using VDS.


I changed EMM386 to not report an error with function 0 on a VDS 
call.  It's normally reserved and gives a VDS error condition, now it just 
chains it through with the carry flag set.  Hopefully that won't upset things.


Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS parameter.

(Oh yeah, lest it not be obvious, EMMBLORT is not an official release of 
EMM386.  It is for testing purposes only.)





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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw

Michael Devore schreef:
Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download 


Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS 
parameter.


no change in VMware Workstation 4.5.2 (PC emulator, Intel P4 processor)
booting from BIOS directly to harddisk.
Maybe a floppy would be better :)

We're keeping this on the user-list or going to 'devel' list?


scenario 1 (works)
HIMEM
EMM386.EXE (no VDS)

scenario 2 (works)
HIMEM
UDMA2
EMM386

scenario 3 (fails, complains about missing SHELL)
HIMEM
EMM386.EXE VDS

scenario 4 (works)
HIMEM
UDMA2
EMM386 VDS

scenario 5 (fails at accessing C:\FDOS\BIN\UDMA2.SYS because that 
requires accessing the harddisk to retrieve the file):

HIMEM
EMM386 VDS
UDMA2

What's still strange is that UDMA2 somehow sets the right conditions for 
EMM386's VDS parameter to work without any troubles.


Bernd



c:\config.sys:
SWITCHES=/F/N
COUNTRY=031,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
SET LANG=NL
LASTDRIVE=Z
BUFFERS=20
FILES=40
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DOSDATA=UMB
SET DIRCMD=/OGN /4
MENUCOLOR=7,0
MENUDEFAULT=1,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with maximum RAM free, using EMM386
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver
12?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE
1?DEVICE?=C:\FDOS\BIN\UDMA2.SYS
1?DEVICE?=C:\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST VDS
1?DEVICE?=C:\FDOS\BIN\UDMA2.SYS
12?SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /D /P=c:\autoexec.bat


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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore

At 10:05 PM 7/29/2005 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote:


Michael Devore schreef:

Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download


Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS 
parameter.


no change in VMware Workstation 4.5.2 (PC emulator, Intel P4 processor)
booting from BIOS directly to harddisk.


Different issue entirely.  Don't know what's going on in VMware, it may 
just not like VDS.





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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw

Michael Devore schreef:
Different issue entirely.  Don't know what's going on in VMware, it may 
just not like VDS.


very probably, yes, Michael.
Mark, can you try loading UDMA2.SYS anyway (in front of EMM386)?

DEVICE=HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=UDMA2.SYS
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE VDS other_options

if that works, then finally what happens for me in VMware isn't 
specifically a VMware bug :)


for the record, the emulator uses a 'Phoenixbios 4.0 release 6'.
wish I could load a proper Linuxbios bios imagefile, then see DOS fail 
miserably :)


http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/udma/devel/Udma2_25.zip

Bernd


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDISK another partition problem

2005-07-29 Thread Gerry Hickman

Hi Johnson,

Something doesn't add up here. As I understand it, we are ONLY trying to 
fix the problem of it not booting at this stage - is that right? The 8Gb 
thing is a different problem.


Are you sure you followed the exact steps, in the exact order I listed? 
If you did, and it didn't boot, then this doesn't make sense to me.


Johnson Lam wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:56:40 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Gerry,



But you didn't tell it to write an MBR?



FDISK should automatic update the MBR when quit (or I'm wrong?)


OK, but if there was no MBR, this may not create one. That's what my 
earlier post was all about. Can you try this (all data will be lost)


1. Boot FreeDOS on a floppy (or whatever) Make sure FDISK is 1.3.x or above

2. FDISK /CLEARALL 1



Ha ha ... some days ago I've tried already ... failed.

After the MS-DOS FDISK, I feel strange that only 8GB (Eric explained
it's cause by CHS), okay ... try again with FreeDOS ... this time
works!



(that's a number one assuming your physical drive number is one)

3. FDISK /MBR



Also tried.



4. FDISK /PRI:2000



What is it?
After it works, I can't fail it again (or I can try break and rebuild
the RAID), next week I'll try again.



5. Reboot it

6. FORMAT C: /S

7. Reboot it again

What happens now?



Please wait a few days, I'll try it Monday afternoon.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking. The problems will arise when you can't do 
multi-tasking and multi-threading, and utilizing full power of load 
balancing on dual XEON:(



yeah ... Dual CPU will have problem, wasting one of the CPU.

Too bad there's no more Desqview  I love it.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-user] re: FreeDOS FDISK another partition problem

2005-07-29 Thread Gerry Hickman

Eric Auer wrote:


2. FDISK /CLEARALL 1
3. FDISK /MBR
4. FDISK /PRI:2000



That would be dangerous, I think. The bug report was just it does
not boot after fdisk and sys, not I want to kill all my data.
The solution FDISK /MBR will already be enough.


He's testing on a new server, that's soon going to be rebuilt. I think 
this is a more concise series of steps. I made it clear in my post that 
all data will be lost.



If you use a multitasking operating system, then the kernel controls the
network drivers, and it will be able to give several programs at the same
time access to the network, by managing connection queues and whatnot.


That's the one! You explained it much better:)

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Re: [Freedos-user] re: FreeDOS FDISK issue with Windows Build

2005-07-29 Thread Gerry Hickman

Hi Eric,

previous o/s. To fix it requires changing attribs on BOOT.INI, editing 
it, then re-apply attribs...



You could write a small batch script to automate that...


I explained in an earlier post why that is not practical nor desirable.


FreeDOS Beta9sr1:
...
4. reboot
5. FORMAT C:



Did you verify that the reboot is needed? I know we recommend it, but
you never know... Well probably do DO need it. Just wondering ;-).


Yes! The reason is not really related to FreeDOS though. The reason is 
that when I first boot my hardware with FreeDOS CD, the hard drive 
either has no partitions at all, or only has NTFS partitions. This means 
that my RAMDISK ends up as C.


If I create a partition on the first physical drive and then type FORMAT 
C:, it will try to format the RAMDRIVE! Rebooting fixes this, suddenly 
you get a FAT16/32 C: drive and your RAMDRIVE is on D:



Default boot sector of FreeDOS FORMAT probably. Windows decides that
this is not the default Windows or MS DOS boot sector, so it takes the
safe route and assumes that anything other than Windows is another OS.


Yes, why does Windows have to be so helpful!


I would recommend two things: Use FAT32/LBA partition type, and format
with FORMAT C: /A for easier conversion to NTFS.


I'm already doing that, but note that the CONVERT.EXE program supplied 
with Windows 2000 cannot convert to NTFS on 4K boundaries, it FORCES 
512b as I stated in my earlier post.



This will also be a
good test whether our FAT32 format is Windows compatible even for convert.


It is, but you lose the 4K cluster size unless you use the updated 
CONVERT.EXE supplied with XP's deployment tools and I don't know if it 
can be hacked to work with Windows 2000.



You could zap it, but you could try if running MS DOS SYS C: to put a
MS DOS boot sector on the drive makes Windows behave more as intended


Yes, but if I have to use MS-DOS it defeats the whole purpose of having 
a build environment that's both open-source and free from Microsoft. I 
do need to try FreeDOS SYS to see if it fixes the problem. It's a bit 
strange having to force an o/s onto a C: drive in order to get Windows 
to see it as NOT having an o/s:)



(assuming that it will not suggest Windows users to boot MS DOS ;-)).


Well, I guess our users could be given the option to boot into FreeDOS, 
but they'd start whining about not being able to run Outlook and Word:)



the MS DOS boot sector. As MS DOS does not support FAT32, you can use
Win98 DOS SYS instead.


Yikes! The dreaded Win98!

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Re: [Freedos-user] re: New FreeDOS install CD

2005-07-29 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino

Hi,

Eric Auer escribió:

Could be used with software with restrictive licenses.



Okay, I get it. Read: Antivirus stuff and VIDE-CDD. What else?
By the way, Bernd just never got a reply from Acer about the
driver, but they never said that you cannot put it on CD either.


What is the license of ACRODOS, for those that have used it?

Aitor


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDISK another partition problem

2005-07-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:00:50 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Gerry,

Something doesn't add up here. As I understand it, we are ONLY trying to 
fix the problem of it not booting at this stage - is that right? The 8Gb 
thing is a different problem.

Yes.

Are you sure you followed the exact steps, in the exact order I listed? 
If you did, and it didn't boot, then this doesn't make sense to me.

I remember the procedure clearly, it's really doesn't make sense to me
also.

Luckily some parts not yet arrive and I can still spend some time to
play with it, I'll break the RAID and try again, following your step.
And see what happen.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore

At 03:07 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote:


VOL C: works normally.  Without device=a:\udma2.sys,
vol c: hangs and forces a reboot.  (That's the old behavior
which I checked to make sure of the test case).

This does not appear to be a seperate issue.


Actually it muddies the waters by introducing another low-level driver into 
the test mix.  I really need feedback on the test EMM386 without UDMA2 or 
something else in there.  Basic clean room testing approach before 
expanding the universe.





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Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael:

OK, I have done so.  The new version still reports version 2.04,
July 6, 2005, but is much larger!

I see no difference at all with that version, either with the
development kernel/command.com or the stable kernel/
command.com.

Specifically, with
device=a:\himem.exe
device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds

vol c: hangs.  Remove vds, it works normally. (development)

With stable kernel, I get screenfulls of garbage I can't read
(no newlines) with VDS, normal operation without.

UDMA2 still appears to fix it!

I reported this before, but EMM386 reports the following:
 selected page frame e000 not available, searching automatically
 using PAGEFRAME e000:

That looks a bit odd...

Thanks very much for all of your help!

Mark Bailey


 At 02:58 PM 7/29/2005 -0400, Mark wrote:
 
 Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected
 machines?  How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-)
 
 Here's what to do:
 
 Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download 
 EMMBLORT.ZIP.  Try that version of EMM386.EXE with your machine using VDS.
 
 I changed EMM386 to not report an error with function 0 on a VDS 
 call.  It's normally reserved and gives a VDS error condition, now it just 
 chains it through with the carry flag set.  Hopefully that won't upset things.
 
 Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS parameter.
 
 (Oh yeah, lest it not be obvious, EMMBLORT is not an official release of 
 EMM386.  It is for testing purposes only.)
 
 
 
 
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