Re: [Freedos-user] Unshield ported to DJGPP/DOS
Blair Campbell wrote: Unshield (extracts InstallShield .CAB files) has been ported to DOS. Hehe! :-) Check out www.cow-net.com/kjbca for more details. Umm, is this your site? I didn't see a name on the pages. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Hi Johnson: The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed and configured. Often, people immediately add software and spend a lot of time configuring it... I sure do. My experience suggests that people would rather use an old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing WindowsXP. I have NEVER reinstalled WindowsXP and I've dual booted at least a dozen machines. Using the Linux tools, you can shrink the WindowsXP partition IN PLACE, without affecting WindowsXP at all. (Well, WindowsXP does run chkdisk after you do this, but that's automatic. It runs exactly the same way.) I'm using a boot loader called GAG because it's the simplest to set up that I've found. Works great! Takes maybe 15 minutes to do everything (other than download and burn the Linux LiveCD that does this). Mark Johnson Lam wrote: I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be: 1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot sector if it's not MSDOS) 2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk, then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert Riebisch's bootmgr) Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
Hi Johnson: Johnson Lam wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500, you wrote: Hi Mark, ...Partition Magic discussion...deleted If it's 100% reliable, still worth to pay them, but it's not! Not if the free alternatives work and are just as easy to use... and they are! Grab a new WindowsXP machine and do this procedure...you will be very happy with the result. :-) [...] So, it is really worth trying to modify a Linux installer to automatically re-partition the disk correctly? If you CAN do this, why not? Every piece of software have it's own value of existence. True, but it would be a LOT of work for me since I'm not a Linux expert and I don't have time right now. :-( I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be: 1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot sector if it's not MSDOS) 2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk, then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert Riebisch's bootmgr) No, reloading WindowsXP is too much work and takes too much time. If we can get exactly the same result more easily, without doing that, it is better that way! Rgds, Johnson. Mark --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Announce: APPEND 5.0.0.6
Dear all, I'd like to announce the availability of version 5.0.0.6 of FD APPEND, the command that enables programs to open data files in specified directories as if those files where in the current directory. With this version it is possible to call the resident append (i.e., after the first invocation) using a path in the command name .Thanks to Blair Campbell for the report and the test cases. Now, FD APPEND behaves more like its counterpart from Redmond. Source and binary packages are available at: http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/append/appe506s.zip http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/append/appe506x.zip Regards, Eduardo. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:25:46 -0500, you wrote: Hi Mark, The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed and configured. Often, people immediately add software and spend a lot of time configuring it... I sure do. Yes, I did the same time consuming job, so I can understand adding FreeDOS with destroying XP is a great idea. My experience suggests that people would rather use an old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing WindowsXP. I have NEVER reinstalled WindowsXP and I've dual booted at least a dozen machines. Reinstall XP is a PAIN. So if I can boot FreeDOS from hard disk and make GHOST (any other OpenSource choice?) them into the FreeDOS partition of flash (via USB), then I can save much time working on my own, relax. Using the Linux tools, you can shrink the WindowsXP partition IN PLACE, without affecting WindowsXP at all. (Well, WindowsXP does run chkdisk after you do this, but that's automatic. It runs exactly the same way.) I've found a guide to do this, but it seems not so easy because I'm not familiar of Linux, also it's like disintegrate a bus for a novice engineer, quite frightening. That why I want a program can did this procedure automatically (at least semi-automatic). Takes maybe 15 minutes to do everything (other than download and burn the Linux LiveCD that does this). If you can simplify the procedure or give choices to the users, for example. ask them to choose 500MB, 1GB or 4GB FAT32 instead of asking 'what is the size you want? Enter in bytes'. Some pre-defined choice is better than asking questions with size or number. Linux is GREAT but not user friendly. Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers
Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500 # From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] # To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net # Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed # # I was thinking a bit more about automating this. We # MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer # to automatically, under carefully defined conditions, # shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32 # partition. AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all. # Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS # partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or # possibly, SP 1). And, Partition Magic is expensive # and has a restrictive license (use on one computer, # blah, blah, blah...). Why not use ntfsresize? One could see about trying to get *that* built under DJGPP... or have I just pretended to be 'Q' and said Simple, change the gravitational constant of the universe! :) # Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though, # only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual # booting a new machine. It appears everyone else # has already figured out how to meet their # requirements. Most of the folks I know use # old, dedicated machines to run DOS. Well, I do this - in fact I'm triple-booting SuSE 10, XP, and FreeDOS - and I even have XP recognizing its own drive as C: (which is the sneaky part) but I personally found it to be easy, if slightly convoluted. 1) Boot off of the SuSE CD in rescue mode and create an ext3 boot partition as partition 1. 2) Reboot onto the Windows XP boot disk and create a FAT32 partition, being sure to leave space after the end of that partition for your Linux root and swap partitions. Do not let it continue the install past formatting the partition. 3) Reboot into SuSE rescue and delete the ext3 partition. 4) Reboot into the XP installer. Let XP install. Since there are no other partitions on the disk, it will identify the single partition as C:. 5) Install FreeDOS, onto the same FAT32 partition. FreeDOS will see that XP is installed, and instead of replacing the boot sector it will put the boot sector into a file named FREEDOS.BSS and add itself to the BOOT.INI file for the NT boot loader. 6) Install SuSE, recreating the boot partition as before. For bonus points, remove the FreeDOS entry from BOOT.INI and add it to GRUB's menu.lst, so that you have a single boot menu :) For a dual-boot XP/FreeDOS install, skip steps 1-3 and 6, and simply install XP first. You could I suppose install XP and FreeDOS to separate FAT32 partitions if you wanted, though I haven't done that. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers
Hi: I'm using a graphical front-end to ntfsresize called GParted. Resizing the partition is just a few mouse clicks and does not affect the data in the partition at all. I had understood Johnson to want it automatic. What I'm doing is shrinking the ntfs partition, creating a brand new FAT32 partition, and installing a boot loader. No fooling with Microsoft's stuff at all, and NO installing WindowsXP. The new computers already have XP installed. Other than seeing a new disk device (the FAT32 partition), and running chkdsk once, WindowsXP really doesn't know this happened at all. Takes maybe 15 minutes after you've done it once! :-) Mark Schumacher, Gordon wrote: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500 # From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] # To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net # Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed # # I was thinking a bit more about automating this. We # MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer # to automatically, under carefully defined conditions, # shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32 # partition. AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all. # Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS # partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or # possibly, SP 1). And, Partition Magic is expensive # and has a restrictive license (use on one computer, # blah, blah, blah...). Why not use ntfsresize? One could see about trying to get *that* built under DJGPP... or have I just pretended to be 'Q' and said Simple, change the gravitational constant of the universe! :) # Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though, # only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual # booting a new machine. It appears everyone else # has already figured out how to meet their # requirements. Most of the folks I know use # old, dedicated machines to run DOS. Well, I do this - in fact I'm triple-booting SuSE 10, XP, and FreeDOS - and I even have XP recognizing its own drive as C: (which is the sneaky part) but I personally found it to be easy, if slightly convoluted. 1) Boot off of the SuSE CD in rescue mode and create an ext3 boot partition as partition 1. 2) Reboot onto the Windows XP boot disk and create a FAT32 partition, being sure to leave space after the end of that partition for your Linux root and swap partitions. Do not let it continue the install past formatting the partition. 3) Reboot into SuSE rescue and delete the ext3 partition. 4) Reboot into the XP installer. Let XP install. Since there are no other partitions on the disk, it will identify the single partition as C:. 5) Install FreeDOS, onto the same FAT32 partition. FreeDOS will see that XP is installed, and instead of replacing the boot sector it will put the boot sector into a file named FREEDOS.BSS and add itself to the BOOT.INI file for the NT boot loader. 6) Install SuSE, recreating the boot partition as before. For bonus points, remove the FreeDOS entry from BOOT.INI and add it to GRUB's menu.lst, so that you have a single boot menu :) For a dual-boot XP/FreeDOS install, skip steps 1-3 and 6, and simply install XP first. You could I suppose install XP and FreeDOS to separate FAT32 partitions if you wanted, though I haven't done that. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Two CD drives PCDOS
Carl Spitzer schreef: SHSUCDX /D:CDROM,,1,1 /D:CDRW,,2,1 or DEVICE=C:\DOS\XCDROM.SYS with XDMA under certain conditions. in the config.sys file. The hardware is a Gigabit PII with an IBM and WD hard disks. How do I test whether XDMA is needed. both are necessary: a config.sys cdrom driver for finding/enumerating the ATAPI drives, and a CDEX for assigning driveletters to each unit. DEVICE=XCDROM.SYS /D:FDCD0001 SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 instead of DEVICE, you can also use DEVLOAD if you want from the commandline Bernd --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user