Re: [Freedos-user] Unshield ported to DJGPP/DOS

2006-01-24 Thread Robert Riebisch
Blair Campbell wrote:

 Unshield (extracts InstallShield .CAB files) has been ported to DOS.

Hehe! :-)

 Check out www.cow-net.com/kjbca for more details.

Umm, is this your site? I didn't see a name on the pages.

Robert Riebisch
-- 
BTTR Software
http://www.bttr-software.de/


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi Johnson:

The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed
and configured.  Often, people immediately add
software and spend a lot of time configuring it...
I sure do.

My experience suggests that people would rather use an
old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing
WindowsXP.  I have NEVER reinstalled WindowsXP and I've
dual booted at least a dozen machines.

Using the Linux tools, you can shrink the WindowsXP partition
IN PLACE, without affecting WindowsXP at all.  (Well, WindowsXP
does run chkdisk after you do this, but that's automatic.  It
runs exactly the same way.)

I'm using a boot loader called GAG because it's the simplest to
set up that I've found.  Works great!

Takes maybe 15 minutes to do everything (other than download
and burn the Linux LiveCD that does this).

Mark

Johnson Lam wrote:


I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be:

1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP
loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot
sector if it's not MSDOS)

2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk,
then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert
Riebisch's bootmgr)


Rgds,
Johnson.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi Johnson:

Johnson Lam wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Mark,


 ...Partition Magic discussion...deleted



If it's 100% reliable, still worth to pay them, but it's not!


Not if the free alternatives work and are just as easy to use...
and they are!  Grab a new WindowsXP machine and do this
procedure...you will be very happy with the result.  :-)

[...]




So, it is really worth trying to modify a Linux
installer to automatically re-partition the disk
correctly?


If you CAN do this, why not?
Every piece of software have it's own value of existence.



True, but it would be a LOT of work for me since I'm
not a Linux expert and I don't have time right now.  :-(



I'm not smart, so I think the target of the dual boot should be:

1) Install FreeDOS FAT32, then install WinXP, add FreeDOS to WinXP
loader (simple but I found sometimes WinXP refuse to write the boot
sector if it's not MSDOS)

2) Make FAT32 partition somewhere in the WinXP installed hard disk,
then use boot manager (WinXP boot loader or something like Robert
Riebisch's bootmgr)



No, reloading WindowsXP is too much work and takes too much time.
If we can get exactly the same result more easily, without doing
that, it is better that way!



Rgds,
Johnson.


Mark



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[Freedos-user] Announce: APPEND 5.0.0.6

2006-01-24 Thread Eduardo Casino
Dear all,

I'd like to announce the availability of version 5.0.0.6 of FD APPEND, the 
command that enables programs to open data files in specified directories as if 
those files where in the current directory.

With this version it is possible to call the resident append (i.e., after the 
first invocation) using a  path in the command name .Thanks to Blair Campbell 
for the report and the test cases. Now, FD APPEND behaves more like its 
counterpart from Redmond.

Source and binary packages are available at:

http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/append/appe506s.zip
http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/append/appe506x.zip

Regards,
Eduardo.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-01-24 Thread Johnson Lam
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:25:46 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Mark,

The new machine comes with WindowsXP pre-installed
and configured.  Often, people immediately add
software and spend a lot of time configuring it...
I sure do.

Yes, I did the same time consuming job, so I can understand adding
FreeDOS with destroying XP is a great idea.

My experience suggests that people would rather use an
old, dedicated machine than spend hours re-installing
WindowsXP.  I have NEVER reinstalled WindowsXP and I've
dual booted at least a dozen machines.

Reinstall XP is a PAIN. So if I can boot FreeDOS from hard disk and
make GHOST (any other OpenSource choice?) them into the FreeDOS
partition of flash (via USB), then I can save much time working on my
own, relax.

Using the Linux tools, you can shrink the WindowsXP partition
IN PLACE, without affecting WindowsXP at all.  (Well, WindowsXP
does run chkdisk after you do this, but that's automatic.  It
runs exactly the same way.)

I've found a guide to do this, but it seems not so easy because I'm
not familiar of Linux, also it's like disintegrate a bus for a novice
engineer, quite frightening. That why I want a program can did this
procedure automatically (at least semi-automatic).

Takes maybe 15 minutes to do everything (other than download
and burn the Linux LiveCD that does this).

If you can simplify the procedure or give choices to the users, for
example. ask them to choose 500MB, 1GB or 4GB FAT32 instead of asking
'what is the size you want? Enter in bytes'.

Some pre-defined choice is better than asking questions with size or
number. Linux is GREAT but not user friendly.


Rgds,
Johnson.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers

2006-01-24 Thread Schumacher, Gordon
Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

# Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500
# From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
# Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers 
needed
#
# I was thinking a bit more about automating this.  We
# MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer
# to automatically, under carefully defined conditions,
# shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32
# partition.  AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all.
# Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS
# partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or
# possibly, SP 1).  And, Partition Magic is expensive
# and has a restrictive license (use on one computer,
# blah, blah, blah...).

Why not use ntfsresize?  One could see about trying to get *that* built
under DJGPP... or have I just pretended to be 'Q' and said Simple,
change the gravitational constant of the universe! :)

# Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though,
# only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual
# booting a new machine.  It appears everyone else
# has already figured out how to meet their
# requirements.  Most of the folks I know use
# old, dedicated machines to run DOS.

Well, I do this - in fact I'm triple-booting SuSE 10, XP, and FreeDOS -
and I even have XP recognizing its own drive as C: (which is the sneaky
part) but I personally found it to be easy, if slightly convoluted.

1) Boot off of the SuSE CD in rescue mode and create an ext3 boot
   partition as partition 1.
2) Reboot onto the Windows XP boot disk and create a FAT32 partition, being
   sure to leave space after the end of that partition for your Linux root
   and swap partitions.  Do not let it continue the install past formatting
   the partition.
3) Reboot into SuSE rescue and delete the ext3 partition.
4) Reboot into the XP installer.  Let XP install.  Since there are no other
   partitions on the disk, it will identify the single partition as C:.
5) Install FreeDOS, onto the same FAT32 partition.  FreeDOS will see that
   XP is installed, and instead of replacing the boot sector it will put
   the boot sector into a file named FREEDOS.BSS and add itself to the
   BOOT.INI file for the NT boot loader.
6) Install SuSE, recreating the boot partition as before.  For bonus points,
   remove the FreeDOS entry from BOOT.INI and add it to GRUB's menu.lst, so
   that you have a single boot menu :)

For a dual-boot XP/FreeDOS install, skip steps 1-3 and 6, and simply install
XP first.  You could I suppose install XP and FreeDOS to separate FAT32
partitions if you wanted, though I haven't done that.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi:

I'm using a graphical front-end to ntfsresize called
GParted.  Resizing the partition is just a few mouse clicks
and does not affect the data in the partition at all.

I had understood Johnson to want it automatic.

What I'm doing is shrinking the ntfs partition,
creating a brand new FAT32 partition, and installing
a boot loader.  No fooling with Microsoft's stuff
at all, and NO installing WindowsXP.  The new computers
already have XP installed.  Other than seeing a new
disk device (the FAT32 partition), and running chkdsk
once, WindowsXP really doesn't know this happened at all.

Takes maybe 15 minutes after you've done it once!  :-)

Mark

Schumacher, Gordon wrote:

Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

# Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:55 -0500
# From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
# Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers 
needed
#
# I was thinking a bit more about automating this.  We
# MIGHT be able to grab some stuff from a Linux installer
# to automatically, under carefully defined conditions,
# shrink the NTFS partition and create a new fat32
# partition.  AFAIK, it can't be done under DOS at all.
# Partition Magic just doesn't reliably work on NTFS
# partitions as of 8.02 and XP Service Pack 2 (or
# possibly, SP 1).  And, Partition Magic is expensive
# and has a restrictive license (use on one computer,
# blah, blah, blah...).

Why not use ntfsresize?  One could see about trying to get *that* built
under DJGPP... or have I just pretended to be 'Q' and said Simple,
change the gravitational constant of the universe! :)

# Judging from the response to Version 1.0, though,
# only one FreeDOS user was even interested in dual
# booting a new machine.  It appears everyone else
# has already figured out how to meet their
# requirements.  Most of the folks I know use
# old, dedicated machines to run DOS.

Well, I do this - in fact I'm triple-booting SuSE 10, XP, and FreeDOS -
and I even have XP recognizing its own drive as C: (which is the sneaky
part) but I personally found it to be easy, if slightly convoluted.

1) Boot off of the SuSE CD in rescue mode and create an ext3 boot
   partition as partition 1.
2) Reboot onto the Windows XP boot disk and create a FAT32 partition, being
   sure to leave space after the end of that partition for your Linux root
   and swap partitions.  Do not let it continue the install past formatting
   the partition.
3) Reboot into SuSE rescue and delete the ext3 partition.
4) Reboot into the XP installer.  Let XP install.  Since there are no other
   partitions on the disk, it will identify the single partition as C:.
5) Install FreeDOS, onto the same FAT32 partition.  FreeDOS will see that
   XP is installed, and instead of replacing the boot sector it will put
   the boot sector into a file named FREEDOS.BSS and add itself to the
   BOOT.INI file for the NT boot loader.
6) Install SuSE, recreating the boot partition as before.  For bonus points,
   remove the FreeDOS entry from BOOT.INI and add it to GRUB's menu.lst, so
   that you have a single boot menu :)

For a dual-boot XP/FreeDOS install, skip steps 1-3 and 6, and simply install
XP first.  You could I suppose install XP and FreeDOS to separate FAT32
partitions if you wanted, though I haven't done that.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Two CD drives PCDOS

2006-01-24 Thread Bernd Blaauw

Carl Spitzer schreef:

SHSUCDX /D:CDROM,,1,1 /D:CDRW,,2,1

or

DEVICE=C:\DOS\XCDROM.SYS with XDMA under certain conditions.

in the config.sys file.

The hardware is a Gigabit PII with an IBM and WD hard disks.
How do I test whether XDMA is needed.
  
both are necessary: a config.sys cdrom driver for finding/enumerating 
the ATAPI drives, and a CDEX for assigning driveletters to each unit.


DEVICE=XCDROM.SYS /D:FDCD0001

SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001

instead of DEVICE, you can also use DEVLOAD if you want from the commandline

Bernd


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