[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: PS. Are there any promotional materials (flyers, posters, videos, etc.) for FreeDOS that we can use on our Software Freedom Day celebration next month, BTW? Hi. You can feel free to use any of these logos: http://www.freedos.org/images/ You can use them under the CC license, and we've got them in svg format to make it easy to turn them into banners or posters and not lose resolution. ACK, thanks. I'd try to collect whatever free software-related free logos I'd be able to find on the Web, and print them on stickers to be given away at the event. Also, we've decided [1] to populate the reverse sides of our “Join us on SFD-2012!” flyers with short notes on various free software packages, like (translation from Russian is mine): VLC Multipurpose free video player, with distinguishing features being the support of a multitude of formats, the independence of third-party codecs, the ability to work with stream video (including webcams), and also the ability to work with different playback libraries (such as FFmpeg.) Has numerous and various configuration parameters, but has an intuitive user interface at the same time. I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.foss.sfd.planning.ru/89 Also, please don't include PS for an unrelated topic, as the right people may not see it. Makes sense. Thanks. -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] networking: virtio, NFS?
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: I'm interested in running multiple instances of FreeDOS within QEMU. So, my questions are: • QEMU offers a “simplified” networking hardware (AKA virtio); is there a packet driver for it for FreeDOS? Dunno, doubt it, esp. if it's not just standard stuff and needs special code. Well, my guess is that virtio should need much less code than, say, ne2k. And with GNU/Linux as the guest, it runs considerably (as in: times) faster. IIRC, most people use Crynwr's NE2000 there. BTW, I was unable to find any Crynwr's packet drivers on the FreeDOS 1.1 image? (quoting old email from Erwin): qemu -L . -m 64 -hda freedos.img -boot c -hdb fat:c:\fat -net nic,model=ne2k_pci -net user ACK, thanks! Somehow, I've ended using mkdosdisk.sh to create ~/tmp/dos-exchange.image (thus -hdb ~/tmp/dos-exchange.image), which I access with Mtools from the host's side, like: $ grep -F -- dos-ex .mtoolsrc drive x: file=/home/private/users/ivan/tmp/dos-exchange.image partition=1 $ mdir x: Volume in drive X has no label Volume Serial Number is 2599-F805 Directory for X:/ … […] PS. Are there any promotional materials (flyers, posters, videos, etc.) for FreeDOS that we can use on our Software Freedom Day celebration next month, BTW? Online files to download (and print out) or actual physical copies? I'm sure it'd be both faster and cheaper to print it ourselves than to wait fo delivery, so I'm interested mainly in files. http://www.freedos.org/images/ ACK, thanks. http://www.zazzle.com/freedos -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] NFS-booting FreeDOS?
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] BTW, what host OS are you planning to use QEMU? IIRC, most development is targeted towards Linux. But our own Bernd often tries to use it atop Windows. The latest Win32 (unofficial) build I can find (1.1.1-1) is here, though I haven't tested it: http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/ I'm not that interested in W32, but here's the plan: • the FreeDOS 1.0 “Live” image is, in fact, two images: one that gets booted by MEMDISK and contains the necessary software to access CD, and the CD image itself; • replacing the CD driver with an XFS one, I'd be able to use an NFS server instead of a CD image; • the NFS shared (read-only) directory may be hosted on either a private or public NFS server; • assuming that there's such a public NFS server, and also an HTTP one to host a few KiB's iPXE script, the whole matter of booting FreeDOS boils down to, say: $ qemu \ -kernel ne2k_pci.lkrn \ -net nic,model=ne2k_pci \ -net user,bootfile=http://192.0.2.34/diskless/ipxe/world-default In the example above, ns8390.lkrn is a version of iPXE for NE2000 PCI, compiled as a zImage (should there be virtio driver for FreeDOS, that'd be virtio-net.lkrn and model=virtio, respectively), and it's the /only/ file (beyond QEMU itself, and perhaps a script containing the command line above) that has to be loaded to access FreeDOS (and not only FreeDOS, check, e. g., [1]) this way! Hopefully, this would work on all systems able to run QEMU. [1] news:868vdc1kyb.fsf...@gray.siamics.net http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.cpm/msg/ff454d8479391542 • I've seen mentions of XFS — a (free software?) DOS NFS client; where could it be obtained from? Never heard of it, but I'm far from network savvy. A quick search shows these sites: […] http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/hope.eunet.lv/pub/msdos/nfs http://fossies.org/windows/misc/dos/old/ ACK, thanks! I've also found the following one: http://files.chatnfiles.com/Power-Dos-96/network/tcpip/general/ I'm yet to check whether it works or not. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos in VirtualBox not a sure thing
Michael, Eric, Dave I just altered my EMail setup to better track this thread. I have missed some messages. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.comwrote: John, Just to make sure I understand ... You are running a batch file that is doing net use to setup printer shares, a file share, and loads nansi.sys. And the output to the screen during that time is around 8.5 chars per second? Just as a comparison, running the FreeDOS Beta of 1.1 under VirtualBox I can go to c:\fdos\doc\mtcp and execute type ftpsrv.txt. The entire time to watch that 37KB file scroll by is around 7 seconds, or about 5200 chars per second including the scrolling time. (The time to scroll is longer than the time to print chars.) Is VirtualBox slow because of what you are doing in those batch files, or is it slow no matter what you do? For example, try my little test there and see how fast it goes. We need to isolate what is causing your slowdown. And please try this with both TSRs and device drivers loaded and without so that we can see if it is a TSR or device driver problem. I have never heard of something that slow before in VirtualBox. As an alternative, you can try VMWare to see if it is something specific to VirtualBox. (I have found problems in VirtualBox before related to programs that reprogram the programmable interrupt timer. The mTCP PING program exposed it. It only affected PING while it was running.) RAM should not be the issue. But laptop hardware tends to throttle the speed if it is not plugged into the wall and allowed to run at full speed. I doubt this is your problem, but just in case, please clarify that the laptops are on wall power and are set to run at maximum CPU speed while on wall power. FDAPM and APMDOS are only introduced as a way to conserve battery power or reduce electricity consumption when used with wall power. Which reduces heat, which is always a good thing ... mTCP requires its own network adapter and can not co-exist with MS-Client. The same is true for WATTCP based applications. If you are trying to use both the MS-Client and mTCP or WATTCP programs at the same time on the same adapter then you need to add another adapter. Each of those programs assumes that they own the adapter and will fight each other in fun ways. Mike -- Cheers John S Wolter LinkedIn: johnswolter http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnswolter - Mailto:johnswol...@wolterworks.com - Desk: 734-408-1263 - USA, Eastern Standard Time, -5 GMT, -4 GMT DST -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
ACK, thanks. I'd try to collect whatever free software-related free logos I'd be able to find on the Web, and print them on stickers to be given away at the event. Also, we've decided [1] to populate the reverse sides of our “Join us on SFD-2012!” flyers with short notes on various free software packages, like (translation from Russian is mine): VLC Multipurpose free video player, with distinguishing features being the support of a multitude of formats, the independence of third-party codecs, the ability to work with stream video (including webcams), and also the ability to work with different playback libraries (such as FFmpeg.) Has numerous and various configuration parameters, but has an intuitive user interface at the same time. I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) Well, you can feel free to borrow text from our web page: FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA). jh -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) My only hesitation for E-o is that I'm a bit rusty (I'm no professional, by far). Worse is that technical terms are usually neologisms, not UV (from Fundamento), so I feel uncomfortable with some of the ad hoc inventions people use for such terms. http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento/index.html Anyways, a quick search for senkosta and libera and FreeDOS shows this: http://getgnulinux.org/eo/linux/linux_faq/ Ĉu GNU/Linukso estas la nura libera operaciumo havebla? Ne. GNU/Linukso estas la plej usata senpaga sistemo; sed aliaj sistemoj ekzistas. Tioj inkludas la UNIX-versiojn FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD kaj OpenSolaris, la BeOS-klono Haiku OS, la Windows NT-klono ReactOS, la DOS-klono FreeDOS, Plan 9 de Bell Labs kaj Syllable, nombrante nur kelkajn. So a very rough translation of the latest FreeDOS blurb on the main page that Jim mentions ... FreeDOS estas senkosta/libera DOS-kopia masxinestro kio estas uzebla tiel: aux por ludi, aux por havi pra-masxinojn, aux por subteni malgrandajn masxinetojn. FreeDOS estas plejparte simila al maljuna MS-DOS sed pli bona! Ekzemple, malgraux MS-DOS, FreeDOS permesas FAT32 formon kaj uzadon de granda registrila metodo (LBA). You could probably dredge up some people from various online translation projects for better help, but I've never contacted them, so I have no idea. But take what they say with a grain of salt! ;-) http://translationproject.org/team/eo.html -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
