[Freedos-user] FreeDOS driver issues
Hi. I was wondering if someone could answer a few questions I have about FreeDOS. First of all, I'd like to get some more basic problems out of the way. After downloading the 1.0 'full' cd iso, and burning it to a disc, I was unable to boot into 'live' mode. I know now this is due to my PC only having a SATA DVD-RW drive. Also when attempting to install FreeDOS from that full cd, I was unable to complete many functions, because it was looking for an ethernet connection. I have a ethernet hub plugged into my PC, but it's only used for FTP to other local devices. My only means of internet access is a USB 3G modem. In Linux I'm able to connect my modem using PPP+Wvdial, but I can accept not having an internet connection in FreeDOS. I'm only planning on using it for non-internet related stuff. But... this leads to a problem of sorts for me. How do I install many of the features I want like USB, SD Card, and SATA disc drive support? Eventually, I decided to go with the 'base' cd, and successfully installed the OS to a 5GB partition. I also found something called the ODD-DOS driver that I very hackneyed added to my AUTOEXEC.BAT, and fdconfig.sys, which allowed me access to my optical disc drive. Here are my AUTOEXEC.BAT, and FDCONFIG.SYS pastes. http://pastebin.com/Gm9L8LVk http://pastebin.com/sk3z5BBm -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FreeDOS-driver-issues-tp32073870p32073870.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS driver issues
You are right that installing all includes some unstable things such as old USB or network drivers which might crash or hang during install. To avoid that, un-select packages or simply install base freedos before full freedos. Even after trying to install over the base release, I ended up getting some 'add packet driver' errors too many times, so I decided to try your following advice. Not really, you will probably be fine with BASE and you can simply unzip extra packages from the CD later. It's been a couple years since I tried messing around with a DOS, but I remembered the PATH variable. Thanks for pointing out that it was this simple, but this only solves the problem of the packages included on the disc. SATA harddisk simply works by BIOS. For USB drives and SD card readers, BIOS might help. Otherwise, you can install the Bret Johnson USB drivers for DOS or the demo version of the Georg Potthast ones (which give faster I/O but only work for a while after each time you load them)... For SATA DVD/CD, you can use the UIDE drivers by Jack. All of those are newer than 1.0 but you can just download them in Linux, copy them to your DOS partition and then unzip them there, read the docs, you know the rest. Are these the drivers that wget would attempt to pull from the net? I couldn't get the Bret Johnson USB drivers working, although all I tried were my usb flash drives. Back when I tried DOS last on MS-DOS 7.n something, I used the old DOSASPI.SYS/DI1000DD.SYS method successfully. While it was with the same usb flash drives, it was a different PC at the time. So going back to try it out, I couldn't get that method to work either. Any tips on getting the newer drivers to work? Here are my AUTOEXEC.BAT, and FDCONFIG.SYS pastes. http://pastebin.com/Gm9L8LVk http://pastebin.com/sk3z5BBm I was hoping someone might point out why the drivers wouldn't load in 'HIMEM XMS-memory' mode. I don't ever remember seeing '!' points in BAT files back when I had a mild familiarity with DOS. On a separate issue, my PC is older, but not classic native DOS old. It's from around 2005-06. It has a Nvidia 8400GS which seems to work fine, but it's sound card is the problem. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy SE. It works in newer apps like Mpxplay / QuickView Pro, but it doesn't work with any older apps that require SB compatibility it seems. Are there any generic SB emulators for (Free)DOS? I don't know much about the technical driver stuff, sorry. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FreeDOS-driver-issues-tp32073870p32075623.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS driver issues
So far the pros... The cons are that I have to connect the output of one card to the input of the next or use a switch to select from which card I want to go to the amplifier. Another thing is that I have way too many volume control / mixer channels now :-D How so? One card is the previously mentioned, the other is a Yamaha YMF-724 w/SPDIF. Could I somehow connect the two? In any case, you do not have to disable one card to use the other, simply install drivers for the card(s) that you like. In Linux, as both cards are recognized, simply select which one you prefer as the default output. Well in Linux, I'm already using 2 sound outputs. The card, and the onboard audio AC97. In Linux I just switch to the AC97 when I want to use the headphones. What about DOS though? Can it handle having two sound cards, plus onboard audio? I found a Sound Blaster detection app linked to from this page. It finds, and sets, the blaster variable for the Yamaha I just plugged into this PC. The problem is that when I take that variable, and add it to my autoexec, it doesn't work. I ended up setting the autoexec to call the BLASTER.EXE detection app itself at startup. Several of the apps, and games with auto-detection features now find the Yamaha card, but it still isn't outputting sound. Yes, I've already tested it in Linux. Maybe it's this Pentium 4, or MoBo BIOS causing issues? I noticed that it has some devices assigned (possibly dynamically) to the same IRQs in the BIOS. At the risk of a horrible idea, why not just use DOSBox under Linux? It's fine for 386 games like DOOM, but games like Daggerfall/Quake have major frame skipping/dropping. I like the idea of a smooth 60fps, and also like the idea of using the native environment OS. I would rather suggest dosemu, which is faster and runs real FreeDOS. I've installed FreeDOS to dosemu. All I can say is that it's waayyy choppy slow, even without sound! DOSBox was better, but I already haveseveral programs running in FreeDOS fullspeed. (although without sound) :-( BTW - Could someone points me towards a place to learn FreeeDOS specific syntax(es). This was one of the last files I edited when I used DOS last. It was me putting Windows 98, ME, and 98Lite all on one disc with a 2.88MB boot img. As you can see, the syntax I used is a little out of date. http://pastebin.com/E26wnSWK http://pastebin.com/LcJnyCTg -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FreeDOS-driver-issues-tp32073870p32080579.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS driver issues
Well in Linux, I'm already using 2 sound outputs. The card, and the onboard audio AC97. In Linux I just switch to the AC97 when I want to use the headphones. What about DOS though? Can it handle having two sound cards, plus onboard audio? I don't think it would know the difference!! Does that mean I can use multiple cards somehow? Is there a way I can select which card to use in apps like Mpxplay? Bleh. Try another tool like NSSI, perhaps? it helps more? Nice one. While this app was very informative (I'll definitely use it in the future), it didn't set the variable like the previously mentioned. It could be an IRQ conflict, dunno. I figured it out. It figures the only card I know worked in DOS wouldn't work in this particular Pentium IV PC. It worked fine in an old PIII, with whatever mobo it had. These Yamaha 724 chip cards need either a SB-Link cable, or something called Distributed DMA, to work in real DOS mode. Neither of which this PC has support for... Really? That's odd. DOSEMU should run Quake at native speed, even under x86-64! (Yes, I've tried!) No idea why that is, but try dpmi -m 0xA000 to see if that helps (doubt it, but ...). Seriously, something is up if it runs *slower* than DOSBox!! Does anyone have a solid method for installing FreeDOS in DOSEMU? I simply copied the physical installation I had to the virtual C drive, modifying the boot files as needed. Well that's about it. Thanks for all the help people. It's been much appreciated. ;) -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FreeDOS-driver-issues-tp32073870p32093556.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2
Hi. Has anyone had any luck installing this latest test release? http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=5109id=302138 I've tried everything from burning it to a disc, to mounting the boot floppy/iso through Grub4Dos, and even rebuilding the iso. I read the readme.txt for the release, but following those exact steps didn't work either. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Can%27t-Install--FreeDOS-1.1-test-release--2-tp32093667p32093667.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2
What exactly goes wrong when you do what? At which step? Which error messages do you get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts of everything did you try, what happened? It hangs at the language selection screen. The very bottom selection of the main menu looks for a non-existent FDBOOTCD.ISO. The readme states that it should load the ISO into a ramdisk. Etc... But, nevermind. [Smacks self in forehead...] I simply extracted the contents of the ISO to the C:\ partition, and successfully ran the setup from there. It complained about a few missing packages like doslfn, wattcp, wget, ..., but it installed. Can I just copy over the 'doslfn' from an older version's disc, or is that feature compiled into kernel now? I noticed almost right away that my USB driver causes a crash if I attempt to assign it from the fdconfig.sys at boot. I use MDGx's USBASPI.EXE, and the NJ32DISK.SYS USB driver. They works when I DEVLOAD them post boot-up, but the USB flash drive steals the DVD-RW drive's letter (E:\ in my case). USBUHCI, and USBDRIVE don't work at all for me. It not only wont load my USB drives, it doesn't even find them. Strangely enough if I load them before USBASPI/NJ32DISK, my flash drive is assigned M:\ instead. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Can%27t-Install--FreeDOS-1.1-test-release--2-tp32095584p32096202.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- 10 Tips for Better Web Security Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics covered include: Web security, SSL, hacker attacks Denial of Service (DoS), private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant Messaging, and much more. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] How to install multiple instances..?
Hi. Could someone tell me if it's possible to have multiple instances of (Free)DOS installed to the same partition? After editing the fdconfig.sys, and autoexec.bat, I was unable to boot properly with the files renamed. The kernel seems to be the only non issue, but I hadn't tested it a whole lot. Maybe some programs need it named 'kernel.sys'? If I rename command.com in the root directory, there are obvious issues. If I rename fdconfig.sys, there are issues. The autoexec.bat file is the only file I seem to be able to rename without issue. Does anyone else here have a method that would allow multiple installs of FreeDOS (1.0, 1.1), MS-DOS, or Windows 95/98 to co-exist in the same partition? BTW - If this is the wrong place to post these types of questions, could someone point me in the right direction? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/How-to-install-multiple-instances..--tp32179949p32179949.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
