Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Try emm386.exe, jemm is too much optimysed and does not work well on ALL machines. Plain old emm386 uses a more conventional aproach en tries NOT TO USE hardware as much as possible, an then it is more universal. It is probably slower, but safer... Alain Em 30-07-2011 08:47, JPT escreveu: Hi, tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers. ^^ ie. 1 - Install FreeDOS... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. JPT ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Op 1-8-2011 19:33, Alain Mouette schreef: Try emm386.exe, jemm is too much optimysed and does not work well on ALL machines. It might work, but if even XMGR already gave trouble as per his report.. Still awaiting those promised screenshots as well, I'm sure Jack or Japheth would be interested. A reference bootdisk that does work correctly for him is something I'm curious about. Maybe one of those ancient MSDOS disks :) tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers. ^^ ie. 1 - Install FreeDOS... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. JPT ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
JPT, tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers, i.e. -- 1 - Install FreeDOS ... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Using default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel ... 2 - Using alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. This is the hardware: P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b Ah, good old Asus, who AREN'T what they used to be, as I know from my prior Asus mainboard and MANY service-related E-Mails (both English ones from me, and Mandarin ones from my partner Johnson Lam) that all went totally UNANSWERED!! VERY unusual, for XMGR to fail! I would need to see your exact CONFIG.SYS file. If you use XMGR, I assume you are also loading JEMM386 (not JEMMEX!) with XMGR, or you would get some message from JEMMEX that an XMS manager (XMGR) is already loaded! XMGR cannot by-itself display an Invalid Opcode message. This must be coming from JEMM386. Also, only UMBPCI or the EMM driver (JEMM386, EMM386, or JEMMEX when it is used) will examine the system and find the upper-memory addresses (Ah to Eh) which can be used. XMGR examines only for XMS memory, 10h and up, and relies on the EMM driver to deal with upper-memory. So, my opinion is that your system likely has some area in the upper-memory address range that confuses JEMM386 and is causing your problem. You can try running UMBPCI followed by XMGR, with NO EMM driver, as I show in Section 5 of the README file for XMGR and UIDE. This leaves your system in real mode, not in protected mode as with the EMM drivers, so you may not be able to run some protected-mode application programs. But this lets UMBPCI examine the system for upper-memory instead of the EMM driver. UMBPCI, and XMGR in its XMS memory tests, both have a somewhat more modern memory-test scheme than the JEMM drivers, which desired to stay fully compatible with the scheme used in the original EMM386. So if XMGR + UMBPCI survive loading on your system, this usually denotes an upper-memory examination problem with JEMM386/JEMMEX. You may then need to use specific I= and X= commands in loading the JEMM drivers, to avoid memory areas that cause trouble! In any case, do post your actual CONFIG.SYS file, so I and Japheth can see exactly what you are doing. Jack R. Ellis -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Op 1-8-2011 20:58, Jack schreef: JPT, Ah, good old Asus, who AREN'T what they used to be, as I know from my prior Asus mainboard and MANY service-related E-Mails (both English ones from me, and Mandarin ones from my partner Johnson Lam) that all went totally UNANSWERED!! VERY unusual, for XMGR to fail! I would need to see your exact CONFIG.SYS file. If you use XMGR, I assume you are also loading JEMM386 (not JEMMEX!) with XMGR, or you would get some message from JEMMEX that an XMS manager (XMGR) is already loaded! Think he wrote today that his floppy disk was corrupt, replacing that ment issues solved. My floppy has JEMMEX as a separate menu item, same for XMGR. Handy for debugging when things go rather wrong. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Bernd, My apologies -- Hadn't noticed that I was in fact responding to old news! Jack R. Ellis -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Hi, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:59 PM, JPT j.p...@gmx.net wrote: the floppy had bad sectors. o.0 The jemm crash when booting from the floppy vanished after writing the image again (on the same floppy). Gah, annoying, but it happens!! :-/ But there still are some unresolved crashes from the old 1.0 CD. I put this topic on hold for a few days, but I will continue. I don't know if wasting time on the 1.0 CD is worth it. In particular, I've heard various times how it's network detection was buggy and hung for various people. In short, don't expect even that to just work. And I will send the screenshots as soon I am sure there actually is a problem. There is no use sending screenshots of problems caused by a bad floppy. so please be patient for a few days. No pressure, we just are surprised if even XMS / EMS safe didn't work. -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Hi, tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers. ^^ ie. 1 - Install FreeDOS... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. JPT ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Op 30-7-2011 13:47, JPT schreef: 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt Interesting to know. Guess your machine is a bit peculiar. Or is this all in VirtualBox? 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. Perhaps DOS=LOW instead of DOS=HIGH would solve this. Gate A20 issues aren't always funny to deal with. This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b I'm almost thinking of BIOS issues here. i440BX is a Pentium2-chipset but indeed some boards had the ability to run Pentium 3 processors. Guess I should add PCISLEEP to bootdisk so people can create a listing of their PCI devices. On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) UIDE's /E switch might be a solution for this, but I think some people have already mentioned this doesn't work out for them. Jeremy Davis suggested to enable the IO/APIC and ICH9 check boxes to allow your DOS machine to use a more modern chipset instead of PIIX3 IDE controller on Intel 430FX chipset. Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. JPT Goodluck. ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. My email will be fine, bbla...@home.nl Perhaps I should add that SCRDUMP utility as well so screenshots can be made in automatic way. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:47 AM, JPT j.p...@gmx.net wrote: tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers. ^^ ie. 1 - Install FreeDOS... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt Try JEMM386 manually but with ultra safest combination. Quoting from the README.TXT: X=A000- NOHI NOVME NOINVLPG This is the safest combination. If this doesn't work, Jemm most. likely isn't compatible with the current DOS/BIOS.. (Though I'd be surprised if even that didn't work.) 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. Seriously? That's weird. You really must have a buggy BIOS or something (which I find hard to believe if Windows presumably works on that machine). Make sure you're using the latest version, though: http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html BTW, did you try HIMEMX? http://www.japheth.de/Download/HimemX/Himem332.zip This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b What other OSes can run well there, I wonder. On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) Hmmm, so you must be running *something*! So that's good, at least. ;-) Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. There's no real reason to (re)try the old installer. Moreso, only the new one (1.1 test #3) is being developed and has newer (hopefully less buggy) stuff. ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. rugxulo _AT_ gmail _DOT_ com -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Perhaps I should add that SCRDUMP utility as well so screenshots can be made in automatic way. Which one? Does it have to be a TSR or is cmdline after-the-fact good enough? -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
