Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[dogwallop1964]

Sorry it took so long to respond, and yes, that did indeed work – thanks!

 

I misinterpreted the note above the Shared Folder section of the machine’s 
settings and thought it meant that shared folders were not possible at all lol.

 

 

 

From: Eduardo Casino  
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 6:46 PM
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 

Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

 

Hi, try to create them with the vm powered down.

 

I also recommend that you name the folders in uppercase and following the dos 
file name conventions. If not, make sure that you specify the /lfn switch with 
vmsmount. 

 

Eduardo

El dom., 19 jun. 2022 22:44, mailto:dogwallop1...@gmail.com> > escribió:

Hi, thanks for that.  I have downloaded it, but there is one slight problem – 
VMWare doesn’t allow me to create shared folders because it is a DOS machine.  
I can’t figure out how to get around that, so if you can help with that I’d 
really appreciate it.

 

Thanks! 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[Eduardo Casino]

Hi, try to create them with the vm powered down.

I also recommend that you name the folders in uppercase and following the
dos file name conventions. If not, make sure that you specify the /lfn
switch with vmsmount.

Eduardo

El dom., 19 jun. 2022 22:44,  escribió:

> Hi, thanks for that.  I have downloaded it, but there is one slight
> problem – VMWare doesn’t allow me to create shared folders because it is a
> DOS machine.  I can’t figure out how to get around that, so if you can help
> with that I’d really appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[dogwallop1964]

Hi, thanks for that.  I have downloaded it, but there is one slight problem – 
VMWare doesn’t allow me to create shared folders because it is a DOS machine.  
I can’t figure out how to get around that, so if you can help with that I’d 
really appreciate it.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Jerome Shidel  
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 11:48 AM
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 

Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

 

Also, if your connection is just to a Linux box.

 

EtherDFS works great. 

 

You do need to run it’s server on the linux Box.

 

On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:26 AM, Eduardo Casino mailto:m...@eduardocasino.es> > wrote:



Hi,

 

I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can create shares 
to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but for some reason ‘net’ 
and related commands don’t seem to be present.

 

You might want to give vmsmount a try, a free implementation of VMWare's shared 
folders protocol. It is also included in the "Networking" category in the CD or 
you can download it from the FreeDOS package repository:

 

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/vmsmount.html

 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[Jerome Shidel]

Also, if your connection is just to a Linux box.

EtherDFS works great. 

You do need to run it’s server on the linux Box.

> On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:26 AM, Eduardo Casino  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can create 
>> shares to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but for some 
>> reason ‘net’ and related commands don’t seem to be present.
>> 
> 
> You might want to give vmsmount a try, a free implementation of VMWare's 
> shared folders protocol. It is also included in the "Networking" category in 
> the CD or you can download it from the FreeDOS package repository:
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/vmsmount.html
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[Eduardo Casino]

Hi,

I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can create
> shares to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but for some
> reason ‘net’ and related commands don’t seem to be present.
>

You might want to give vmsmount a try, a free implementation of VMWare's
shared folders protocol. It is also included in the "Networking" category
in the CD or you can download it from the FreeDOS package repository:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/vmsmount.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[dogwallop1964]

Ok, I got a bit confuzzled.  I was following the instructions on a certain web 
site that seemed to indicate that the MS networking client was built in, but 
clearly it isn’t.

 

As always happens, soon after asking for help the answer lands on me lol.

 

Sorry!

 

From: Ralf Quint  
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 2:04 AM
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

 

On 6/17/2022 9:34 PM, dogwallop1...@gmail.com <mailto:dogwallop1...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

Hi all, brand spanking new to this mailing list, and I’m just setting up 
FreeDOS in a VMWare machine.  

 

I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can create shares 
to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but for some reason ‘net’ 
and related commands don’t seem to be present.

 

I’ve installed all of the network options from the CD, and it connects to the 
network just fine.  I can use lynx to do some very crude  browsing, so there is 
connectivity there, so I must be missing something here.

Well, first of all, connecting to the Internet via TCP is not "connecting to 
the network". 

How to do that, so you can access shares, well, that depends on a lot of 
different things. For one, what is your VM host network and what kind of 
network shares are you trying to access. There is certainly no Microsoft "net" 
command with FreeDOS, though I am not sure if there is such a tool with any 
Samba client included. Also, most likely you can connect with any such Samba 
client only to SMB 1.x enabled hosts, and that is for years now usually 
disabled on modern hosts due to vulnerabilities..

 

Ralf

 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[Ralf Quint]

On 6/17/2022 9:34 PM, dogwallop1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all, brand spanking new to this mailing list, and I’m just setting 
up FreeDOS in a VMWare machine.


I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can 
create shares to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but 
for some reason ‘net’ and related commands don’t seem to be present.


I’ve installed all of the network options from the CD, and it connects 
to the network just fine.  I can use lynx to do some very crude  
browsing, so there is connectivity there, so I must be missing 
something here.


Well, first of all, connecting to the Internet via TCP is not 
"connecting to the network".


How to do that, so you can access shares, well, that depends on a lot of 
different things. For one, what is your VM host network and what kind of 
network shares are you trying to access. There is certainly no Microsoft 
"net" command with FreeDOS, though I am not sure if there is such a tool 
with any Samba client included. Also, most likely you can connect with 
any such Samba client only to SMB 1.x enabled hosts, and that is for 
years now usually disabled on modern hosts due to vulnerabilities..



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[Freedos-user] Need help with networking

[dogwallop1964]

Hi all, brand spanking new to this mailing list, and I'm just setting up
FreeDOS in a VMWare machine.  

 

I would very much like to get the networking setup so that I can create
shares to be able to exchange files with the host machine, but for some
reason 'net' and related commands don't seem to be present.

 

I've installed all of the network options from the CD, and it connects to
the network just fine.  I can use lynx to do some very crude  browsing, so
there is connectivity there, so I must be missing something here.

 

If anyone has any insight I'd very much appreciate it.

 

Thanks,

 

Dennis

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Eric Auer]

Hi!

> Another quick question- what does error 0C from format indicate? It
> printed values of all registers. I was trying to access D: without
> running format on it, then ran format with wrong options for the
> first few times. But the help page does not have 0C as a part of the
> error ranges (I think). I'm not having problems now, but am just
> curious.
Forwarding some thoughts by me and some details provided by Akshay:

DIR on D: caused critical errors for each attempt to read any DOS
area sector, "general failure" with abort ignore retry fail prompt.

The command FORMAT D triggered a JEMMEX exception 0C, in other words
a stack fault, because SP wrapped around the 64k boundary. Registers:

CS:EIP c000:eb, SS:ESP=1225:, EBP=f6f6, EFLAGS=33083, CR0=8...11,
errc=0, cr2=0, EAX=c8990e0d, EBX=7, ECX=ESP, EDX=ds, esi=0, edi=0,
DS=a9a, ES=2c3, fs=0, gs=0, code at CS:IP is cf 80 ff 00 74 06 80 ff,
so there is an IRET at CS:IP. "Press ESC to abort program".

Recommended next step: Try without JEMMEX. I wonder whether this is
a problem with UMB mapping, with VGA BIOS protected mode usage, or
something different with protected mode, memory and memory managers.

Regards, Eric

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Akshay via Freedos-user]

Hi,

I'm running virt-manager version 2.0.0 under Debian 10.2. The Hard Drive and 
the ISO were under IDE from the beginning. Simple searches did not yield the 
libvert version. "visrh --version" gives 5.0.0

I hate to run away like this, but I'm currently very busy, and so I 
transitioned to VirtualBox, which worked fine.

Another quick question- what does error 0C from format indicate? It printed 
values of all registers. I was trying to access D: without running format on 
it, then ran format with wrong options for the first few times. But the help 
page does not have 0C as a part of the error ranges (I think). I'm not having 
problems now, but am just curious.

Also, I'll retry virt-manager when I get time. Thanks for taking time to reply.


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On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:23 PM, Magnus Wild  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 07:33:10PM +, Akshay via Freedos-user wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to install FreeDOS 1.2 using virt-manager (a GUI for qemu) using 
> > the standard CD. According to the tutorial, the first time I boot from the 
> > ISO, fdisk runs and I use it to create a partition of 1GB, mark it as 
> > active.
>
> I'm running qemu-kvm via virt-manager and have installed FreeDOS 1.2 
> successfully several times. The issue
> you are describing sounds interesting. What version of virt-manager/libvirt 
> do you run?
>
> I'm running virt-manager on OpenBSD which is version 1.5.1 and libvirt/virtd 
> on Centos7 which is version 4.5.0.
> I think I used the template for MS-DOS 6.22 or for Windows 3.11 when creating 
> my current machine. If your disks
> (hdd and cd-rom) are not IDE, try removing them and adding IDE-drives instead 
> to see if that works better.
>
> Not really sure what else to try, but hopefully this should get you started.
>
> /Magnus
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Magnus Wild]

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 07:33:10PM +, Akshay via Freedos-user wrote:
> I'm trying to install FreeDOS 1.2 using virt-manager (a GUI for qemu) using 
> the standard CD. According to the tutorial, the first time I boot from the 
> ISO, fdisk runs and I use it to create a partition of 1GB, mark it as active.

I'm running qemu-kvm via virt-manager and have installed FreeDOS 1.2 
successfully several times. The issue
you are describing sounds interesting. What version of virt-manager/libvirt do 
you run?

I'm running virt-manager on OpenBSD which is version 1.5.1 and libvirt/virtd on 
Centos7 which is version 4.5.0.
I think I used the template for MS-DOS 6.22 or for Windows 3.11 when creating 
my current machine. If your disks
(hdd and cd-rom) are not IDE, try removing them and adding IDE-drives instead 
to see if that works better.

Not really sure what else to try, but hopefully this should get you started.

/Magnus


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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

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Again, thanks for the reply.

I'll try to figure out how to do the installation with two hard drives.


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On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:15 AM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:34 AM Akshay
> > > ...
> > > On the second boot, the setup goes till "gathering some information to 
> > > prepare for the installation", and then gives an error message, "unable 
> > > to locate installation packages. A reboot might help". Upon reboot the 
> > > same message occurs.
>
> This is definitely a cd visibility issue as Louis suggests.
>
> Basically in 1.2, there is a floppy image on the cd-rom. On the Legacy CD, 
> floppy emulation is handled by the BIOS. On the Standard CD, emulation is 
> done through syslinux/memdisk. During the boot process of the emulated 
> floppy, FreeDOS loads device drivers to talk to a cd/dvd. If they fail to 
> work, the installer will not be able to find the packages on the cd-rom. This 
> can happen for several reasons. The main cause on real hardware is the driver 
> not supporting the drive is it’s default configuration. On virtual hardware, 
> I suspect it would be an improperly configured virtual machine. There are 
> other reasons. But, those are probably the most likely.
>
> There are additional options to do an install of 1.2. One that seldom gets 
> mentioned is the multiple HD install method. Basically, you just copy the 
> entire contents of the CD or USB stick image to a secondary hard drive. Boot 
> any of the FreeDOS 1.2 install media (Floppy, Legacy CD, etc). Run the 
> installer. When it does it’s package search, it will detect them on the 
> secondary HD and use them to install FreeDOS onto the Primary HD.
>
> Jerome
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Akshay via Freedos-user]

Thanks for the reply.

When creating the VM, I choose the option boot from CD/DVD, and the iso is 
visible as CD/DVD. When I reboot the first time, the newly partitioned hard 
drive is detected (and 55AA is not found). When this happens, I force shutdown 
the VM, modify it to add the CD/DVD, and it is detected as so, and boots (then 
encounters the installer files not found issue)

As for qemu, I am *not* running a command at all. Is there a way to see what 
command is being run "behind" virtual machine. Perhaps I did not get your 
question.

As for virt-manager, the reason I am using it is Debian Buster supports it (I 
think I read this on the wiki), and not VirtualBox.


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On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 6:20 AM, Louis Santillan  
wrote:

> Yeah, `virt-manager` is (IMO) not as awesome VirtualBox or even plain
> `qemu` commands. I experienced the same "double" boot to install
> issue with KVM on RHEL7. I guess it is the way `virt-manager` works.
> However, in the end, I was able to install w/o issue (over `cockpit`)
> after the 2nd boot.
>
> Are you setting the ISO as the `cdrom` device or as a bootable hard
> drive/USB drive? The files may not be appropriately visible in the
> way the installer is expecting.
>
> What is your `qemu` command line? Before running the installer, what
> drive is ISO visible as?
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:34 AM Akshay via Freedos-user
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to install FreeDOS 1.2 using virt-manager (a GUI for qemu) using 
> > the standard CD. According to the tutorial, the first time I boot from the 
> > ISO, fdisk runs and I use it to create a partition of 1GB, mark it as 
> > active.
> > I was first having problems rebooting, but that turned out to be a qemu 
> > issue, I added the iso manually as the CD/DVD and enabled boot menu, so 
> > that I could boot from the dvd the next time too.
> > On the second boot, the setup goes till "gathering some information to 
> > prepare for the installation", and then gives an error message, "unable to 
> > locate installation packages. A reboot might help". Upon reboot the same 
> > message occurs.
> > I checked the md5sum of the iso, and it's correct. To be sure, the output 
> > of the command is 'd5584871b0e35bc1d6656dce9eb4af51 FD12CD.iso'.
> > Please tell me to provide additional information if required.
> > Thanks,
> > Akshay
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Jerome Shidel]

Hi,

>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:34 AM Akshay 
>> ...
>> On the second boot, the setup goes till "gathering some information to 
>> prepare for the installation", and then gives an error message, "unable to 
>> locate installation packages. A reboot might help". Upon reboot the same 
>> message occurs.

This is definitely a cd visibility issue as Louis suggests.

Basically in 1.2, there is a floppy image on the cd-rom. On the Legacy CD, 
floppy emulation is handled by the BIOS. On the Standard CD, emulation is done 
through syslinux/memdisk. During the boot process of the emulated floppy, 
FreeDOS loads device drivers to talk to a cd/dvd. If they fail to work, the 
installer will not be able to find the packages on the cd-rom. This can happen 
for several reasons. The main cause on real hardware is the driver not 
supporting the drive is it’s default configuration. On virtual hardware, I 
suspect it would be an improperly configured virtual machine. There are other 
reasons. But, those are probably the most likely.

There are additional options to do an install of 1.2. One that seldom gets 
mentioned is the multiple HD install method. Basically, you just copy the 
entire contents of the CD or USB stick image to a secondary hard drive. Boot 
any of the FreeDOS 1.2 install media (Floppy, Legacy CD, etc). Run the 
installer. When it does it’s package search, it will detect them on the 
secondary HD and use them to install FreeDOS onto the Primary HD. 

Jerome


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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help installing on virt-manager

[Louis Santillan]

Yeah, `virt-manager` is (IMO) not as awesome VirtualBox or even plain
`qemu` commands.  I experienced the same "double" boot to install
issue with KVM on RHEL7.  I guess it is the way `virt-manager` works.
However, in the end, I was able to install w/o issue (over `cockpit`)
after the 2nd boot.

Are you setting the ISO as the `cdrom` device or as a bootable hard
drive/USB drive?  The files may not be appropriately visible in the
way the installer is expecting.

What is your `qemu` command line?  Before running the installer, what
drive is ISO visible as?





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 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install FreeDOS 1.2 using virt-manager (a GUI for qemu) using 
> the standard CD. According to the tutorial, the first time I boot from the 
> ISO, fdisk runs and I use it to create a partition of 1GB, mark it as active.
>
> I was first having problems rebooting, but that turned out to be a qemu 
> issue, I added the iso manually as the CD/DVD and enabled boot menu, so that 
> I could boot from the dvd the next time too.
>
> On the second boot, the setup goes till "gathering some information to 
> prepare for the installation", and then gives an error message, "unable to 
> locate installation packages. A reboot might help". Upon reboot the same 
> message occurs.
>
> I checked the md5sum of the iso, and it's correct. To be sure, the output of 
> the command is 'd5584871b0e35bc1d6656dce9eb4af51  FD12CD.iso'.
>
> Please tell me to provide additional information if required.
>
> Thanks,
> Akshay
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[Akshay via Freedos-user]

Hi,

I'm trying to install FreeDOS 1.2 using virt-manager (a GUI for qemu) using the 
standard CD. According to the tutorial, the first time I boot from the ISO, 
fdisk runs and I use it to create a partition of 1GB, mark it as active.

I was first having problems rebooting, but that turned out to be a qemu issue, 
I added the iso manually as the CD/DVD and enabled boot menu, so that I could 
boot from the dvd the next time too.

On the second boot, the setup goes till "gathering some information to prepare 
for the installation", and then gives an error message, "unable to locate 
installation packages. A reboot might help". Upon reboot the same message 
occurs.

I checked the md5sum of the iso, and it's correct. To be sure, the output of 
the command is 'd5584871b0e35bc1d6656dce9eb4af51  FD12CD.iso'.

Please tell me to provide additional information if required.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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Hi!

> Okay, so I guess I did it correctly. Now that I have FreeDOS installed, how
> do I get sound to work? I have a ESS Solo-1, I believe. I forgot to copy
> any drivers before I installed FreeDOS.

Most old DOS games only work with ISA soundcards. If your
soundcard is PCI, USB, AC97 or HDA, only a few more modern
DOS programs such as certain media players can use them in
the general case. The good news is that your computer seems
to be old enough to still "know" what ISA slots are: Some
older PCI soundcards come with drivers for such mainboards
which create the illusion of ISA soundcards for DOS games.

Your ESS Solo is exactly in that category: An old PCI sound
card which has drivers which make it look a bit like an ISA
sound card on mainboards with DDMA and other classic features.

The drivers use tricks to bridge some signals, but the Solo
hardware already knows how to be similar to ISA soundcards:
Chances are good that Adlib/OPL3/FM or wave/DSP work in some
games on your old mainboard, with suitably adapted settings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e14dFZWi2eI mentions some
ESS PCI Audio DOS Device Drivers 2.30D / 2.31D

Another approach and driver or setup tool are listed here:
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=35611

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Ralf Quint]

On 7/13/2019 2:37 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote:



On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ralf Quint > wrote:



On 7/13/2019 10:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote:



On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 . > wrote:



Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?


Yes.

But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive 
partition in most situations.


Up to you. :-)


Actually, on an older hard drive, I would in fact recommend to do a 
full format, so every sector on the drive/partition is actually 
accessed and would reveal any possible problems with that drive, as a 
quick format is only clearing/rewriting the basic root directory 
information on the beginning of the drive/partition. And then you 
might run into mysterious problem slater on, when those possibly bad 
sectors are being accessed as they just have to be assumed working by 
a quick format...


Ralf




You are correct. Old drives, absolutely.
However... New drives, no real benefit.

Well, out friend states
I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq Prosignia 150) that 
originally had Windows 98


That means it is likely a 19-20 year old AMD-K6 based computer, which 
most likely has a first generation SATA or even still a PATA drive.


For me, that just calls to do a full format of the hard drive...

Ralf





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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

Okay, so I guess I did it correctly. Now that I have FreeDOS installed, how
do I get sound to work? I have a ESS Solo-1, I believe. I forgot to copy
any drivers before I installed FreeDOS.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 8:02 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user <
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> IIRC, you just use FORMAT without the /Q switch.
>
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>  Original Message 
> On Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 PM, HTV04 . < htv04ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Too late for that, haha.
>
> How do I force a full format like the installer would do, though?
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:27 PM Dale E Sterner 
> wrote:
>
>> One thought, you could replace your c: drive with
>> a cf chip from Komputerbay on Amazon. Just
>> pull out the old hard drive and replace it with an
>> IDE adapter and cf chip. You can save your old
>> c: drive so can get back your old system by
>> just plugging it back in, if you ever want 98 back.
>>
>> cheers
>> DS
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:19:59 -0400 "HTV04 ." 
>> writes:
>> > I would like to do a clean install of FreeDOS though, and makes sure
>> > the C:
>> > partition is completely wiped by doing a full format on it and
>> > reinstalling
>> > FreeDOS.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Eric Auer 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi!
>> > >
>> > > Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
>> > > still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
>> > > need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
>> > > you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
>> > > those files which you no longer need. You could even
>> > > install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
>> > > as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.
>> > >
>> > > I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
>> > > DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
>> > > get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
>> > > disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
>> > >
>> > > Regards, Eric
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current
>> > partitions
>> > > though.
>> > > > Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with
>> > the
>> > > format
>> > > > command)?
>> > > >
>> > > > And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?
>> > >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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IIRC, you just use FORMAT without the /Q switch.

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On Jul 13, 2019, 7:29 PM, HTV04 . wrote:

> Too late for that, haha.
>
> How do I force a full format like the installer would do, though?
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:27 PM Dale E Sterner  wrote:
>
>> One thought, you could replace your c: drive with
>> a cf chip from Komputerbay on Amazon. Just
>> pull out the old hard drive and replace it with an
>> IDE adapter and cf chip. You can save your old
>> c: drive so can get back your old system by
>> just plugging it back in, if you ever want 98 back.
>>
>> cheers
>> DS
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:19:59 -0400 "HTV04 ." 
>> writes:
>>> I would like to do a clean install of FreeDOS though, and makes sure
>>> the C:
>>> partition is completely wiped by doing a full format on it and
>>> reinstalling
>>> FreeDOS.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Eric Auer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hi!
>>> >
>>> > Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
>>> > still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
>>> > need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
>>> > you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
>>> > those files which you no longer need. You could even
>>> > install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
>>> > as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.
>>> >
>>> > I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
>>> > DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
>>> > get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
>>> > disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
>>> >
>>> > Regards, Eric
>>> >
>>> > > Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current
>>> partitions
>>> > though.
>>> > > Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with
>>> the
>>> > format
>>> > > command)?
>>> > >
>>> > > And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?
>>> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

Too late for that, haha.

How do I force a full format like the installer would do, though?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:27 PM Dale E Sterner  wrote:

> One thought, you could replace your c: drive with
> a cf chip from Komputerbay on Amazon. Just
> pull out the old hard drive and replace it with an
> IDE adapter and cf chip. You can save your old
> c: drive so can get back your old system by
> just plugging it back in, if you ever want 98 back.
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:19:59 -0400 "HTV04 ." 
> writes:
> > I would like to do a clean install of FreeDOS though, and makes sure
> > the C:
> > partition is completely wiped by doing a full format on it and
> > reinstalling
> > FreeDOS.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Eric Auer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
> > > still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
> > > need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
> > > you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
> > > those files which you no longer need. You could even
> > > install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
> > > as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.
> > >
> > > I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
> > > DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
> > > get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
> > > disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
> > >
> > > Regards, Eric
> > >
> > > > Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current
> > partitions
> > > though.
> > > > Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with
> > the
> > > format
> > > > command)?
> > > >
> > > > And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?
> > >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Dale E Sterner]

One thought, you could replace your c: drive with
a cf chip from Komputerbay on Amazon. Just
pull out the old hard drive and replace it with an
IDE adapter and cf chip. You can save your old
c: drive so can get back your old system by
just plugging it back in, if you ever want 98 back.

cheers
DS


On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:19:59 -0400 "HTV04 ." 
writes:
> I would like to do a clean install of FreeDOS though, and makes sure 
> the C:
> partition is completely wiped by doing a full format on it and 
> reinstalling
> FreeDOS.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Eric Auer  
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
> > still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
> > need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
> > you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
> > those files which you no longer need. You could even
> > install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
> > as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.
> >
> > I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
> > DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
> > get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
> > disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
> >
> > Regards, Eric
> >
> > > Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current 
> partitions
> > though.
> > > Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with 
> the
> > format
> > > command)?
> > >
> > > And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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How do I force a full format?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 5:38 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
>
> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ralf Quint  wrote:
>
> On 7/13/2019 10:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>
> Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?
>
>
> Yes.
>
> But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive
> partition in most situations.
>
> Up to you. :-)
>
> Actually, on an older hard drive, I would in fact recommend to do a full
> format, so every sector on the drive/partition is actually accessed and
> would reveal any possible problems with that drive, as a quick format is
> only clearing/rewriting the basic root directory information on the
> beginning of the drive/partition. And then you might run into mysterious
> problem slater on, when those possibly bad sectors are being accessed as
> they just have to be assumed working by a quick format...
>
> Ralf
>
>
> You are correct. Old drives, absolutely.
> However... New drives, no real benefit.
>
> ( I remember when you bought a drive and the first thing you needed to do
> was format to map bad sectors. )
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Jerome Shidel]

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ralf Quint  wrote:
> 
>> On 7/13/2019 10:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?
>> 
>> Yes. 
>> 
>> But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive 
>> partition in most situations. 
>> 
>> Up to you. :-)
> Actually, on an older hard drive, I would in fact recommend to do a full 
> format, so every sector on the drive/partition is actually accessed and would 
> reveal any possible problems with that drive, as a quick format is only 
> clearing/rewriting the basic root directory information on the beginning of 
> the drive/partition. And then you might run into mysterious problem slater 
> on, when those possibly bad sectors are being accessed as they just have to 
> be assumed working by a quick format...
> 
> Ralf
> 
> 

You are correct. Old drives, absolutely. 
However... New drives, no real benefit. 

( I remember when you bought a drive and the first thing you needed to do was 
format to map bad sectors. )



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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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On 7/13/2019 10:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote:



On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 . > wrote:



Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?


Yes.

But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive 
partition in most situations.


Up to you. :-)


Actually, on an older hard drive, I would in fact recommend to do a full 
format, so every sector on the drive/partition is actually accessed and 
would reveal any possible problems with that drive, as a quick format is 
only clearing/rewriting the basic root directory information on the 
beginning of the drive/partition. And then you might run into mysterious 
problem slater on, when those possibly bad sectors are being accessed as 
they just have to be assumed working by a quick format...


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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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On Saturday, July 13, 2019 7:16 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

> ...
> I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
> DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
> get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
> disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
> ...

Yep, that was exactly my thought process. :)

So to more accurately target what you want to do, I would not delete all 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

I tried formatting the disk, and it worked, but it still showed up as a
Quick Format, even though I only typed format c:. Is this normal? I guess
I’ll just skip trying to perform a full format and install FreeDOS. Thanks
for the help, I now have FreeDOS working on my computer!

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
>
> On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>
> Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?
>
>
> Yes.
>
> But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive
> partition in most situations.
>
> Up to you. :-)
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 1:15 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:49 AM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq
>> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with
>> the FreeDOS installer.
>>
>> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I
>> had to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several
>> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m
>> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
>>
>> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was
>> detected (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue
>> installing or make a backup. I searched this up online, and found
>> absolutely no documentation on this. I came to the conclusion that it would
>> just format my C: drive and continued. After I started the install however,
>> it just installed all the files alongside my old ones, so the installer
>> completely skipped the part where it would format the drive.
>>
>> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist.
>> Is there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and
>> can I run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format
>> command, can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of
>> have OCDs for that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
>>
>> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean
>> installs of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> HTV04
>>
>>
>> it is an easy fix.
>>
>> Boot the FreeDOS CD.
>>
>> It will detect FreeDOS 1.2 is already installed and automatically exit to
>> the command prompt.
>>
>> Locate the drive you wish to erase. (Probably C:, maybe D:) use "*dir c:*
>> " to verify the correct drive partition.
>>
>> Format the drive with “*format c: /q*”
>>
>> Reboot the FreeDOS CD and go through the install process again.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

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> On Jul 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, HTV04 .  wrote:
> 
> Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?

Yes. 

But, I don’t really see a need to do a slow full format on the drive partition 
in most situations. 

Up to you. :-)

> 
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 1:15 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:49 AM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq 
>>> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with 
>>> the FreeDOS installer.
>>> 
>>> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I 
>>> had to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several 
>>> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m 
>>> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
>>> 
>>> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected 
>>> (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make 
>>> a backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation 
>>> on this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and 
>>> continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the 
>>> files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part 
>>> where it would format the drive.
>>> 
>>> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist. 
>>> Is there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and 
>>> can I run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format 
>>> command, can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of 
>>> have OCDs for that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
>>> 
>>> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean installs 
>>> of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
>>> -- 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> HTV04
>> 
>> it is an easy fix.
>> 
>> Boot the FreeDOS CD. 
>> 
>> It will detect FreeDOS 1.2 is already installed and automatically exit to 
>> the command prompt.
>> 
>> Locate the drive you wish to erase. (Probably C:, maybe D:) use "dir c:" to 
>> verify the correct drive partition.
>> 
>> Format the drive with “format c: /q” 
>> 
>> Reboot the FreeDOS CD and go through the install process again.
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

Can I do a full format instead of a quick format?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 1:15 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
>
> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:49 AM, HTV04 .  wrote:
>
> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq
> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with
> the FreeDOS installer.
>
> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I
> had to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several
> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m
> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
>
> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected
> (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make
> a backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation
> on this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and
> continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the
> files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part
> where it would format the drive.
>
> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist.
> Is there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and
> can I run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format
> command, can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of
> have OCDs for that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
>
> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean
> installs of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
>
> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
> --
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> HTV04
>
>
> it is an easy fix.
>
> Boot the FreeDOS CD.
>
> It will detect FreeDOS 1.2 is already installed and automatically exit to
> the command prompt.
>
> Locate the drive you wish to erase. (Probably C:, maybe D:) use "*dir c:*"
> to verify the correct drive partition.
>
> Format the drive with “*format c: /q*”
>
> Reboot the FreeDOS CD and go through the install process again.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Jerome Shidel]

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:49 AM, HTV04 .  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq 
> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with the 
> FreeDOS installer.
> 
> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I had 
> to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several 
> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m 
> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
> 
> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected 
> (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make a 
> backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation on 
> this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and 
> continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the 
> files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part 
> where it would format the drive.
> 
> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist. Is 
> there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and can I 
> run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format command, 
> can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of have OCDs for 
> that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
> 
> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean installs 
> of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
> 
> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> HTV04

it is an easy fix.

Boot the FreeDOS CD. 

It will detect FreeDOS 1.2 is already installed and automatically exit to the 
command prompt.

Locate the drive you wish to erase. (Probably C:, maybe D:) use "dir c:" to 
verify the correct drive partition.

Format the drive with “format c: /q” 

Reboot the FreeDOS CD and go through the install process again.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

I would like to do a clean install of FreeDOS though, and makes sure the C:
partition is completely wiped by doing a full format on it and reinstalling
FreeDOS.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
> still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
> need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
> you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
> those files which you no longer need. You could even
> install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
> as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.
>
> I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
> DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
> get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
> disk, so he gave you the steps for that.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> > Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current partitions
> though.
> > Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with the
> format
> > command)?
> >
> > And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Eric Auer]

Hi!

Actually if YOU have no problem with Windows 98 files
still being on your FreeDOS C: drive, then there is no
need to format, partition or delete anything. Of course
you are free to use the normal DOS commands to delete
those files which you no longer need. You could even
install a boot manager and make Win98 and DOS available
as boot time choices, with some additional tricks.

I think Mercury assumed that you had problems booting
DOS after installing and that you wanted to completely
get rid of all other operating systems and data on the
disk, so he gave you the steps for that.

Regards, Eric

> Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current partitions though.
> Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with the format
> command)?
> 
> And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[HTV04 .]

Thanks for advice! I don’t want to mess with my current partitions though.
Is there a way I can just format the existing C: partition (with the format
command)?

And should I do this from the CD-ROM? If so, how?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 4:45 AM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I would:
>
> 1. Run FDISK and delete all partitions
> 2. Create a single Primary DOS partition and mark it active
> 3. Exit FDISK and reboot
> 4. Run FDISK /mbr to fix the boot record
> 5. Use SYS c: to transfer system files to the hard drive
>
> Then you should be good to go!
>
>
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>
>
>  Original Message 
> On Jul 13, 2019, 2:49 AM, HTV04 . < htv04ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq
> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with
> the FreeDOS installer.
>
> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I
> had to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several
> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m
> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
>
> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected
> (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make
> a backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation
> on this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and
> continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the
> files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part
> where it would format the drive.
>
> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist.
> Is there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and
> can I run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format
> command, can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of
> have OCDs for that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
>
> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean
> installs of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
>
> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
> --
> Sincerely,
> HTV04
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help reformatting disk for clean install of FreeDOS

[Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user]

I would:

1. Run FDISK and delete all partitions
2. Create a single Primary DOS partition and mark it active
3. Exit FDISK and reboot
4. Run FDISK /mbr to fix the boot record
5. Use SYS c: to transfer system files to the hard drive

Then you should be good to go!

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On Jul 13, 2019, 2:49 AM, HTV04 . wrote:

> Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq 
> Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with the 
> FreeDOS installer.
>
> When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I had 
> to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several 
> “Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m 
> having though, or at least I don’t think so.
>
> Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected 
> (which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make a 
> backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation on 
> this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and 
> continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the 
> files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part 
> where it would format the drive.
>
> So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist. Is 
> there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and can I 
> run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format command, 
> can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of have OCDs for 
> that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.
>
> I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean installs 
> of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.
>
> Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
> --
>
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[HTV04 .]

Hi, I’m new to FreeDOS. I wanted to revive my old computer (a Compaq
Prosignia 150) that originally had Windows 98, so I set up a CD-ROM with
the FreeDOS installer.

When I booted from the CD-ROM, everything seemed to be going smoothly. I
had to use the “raw” workaround, though, otherwise I would be given several
“Invalid Opcode” errors. This doesn’t have much to do with the problem I’m
having though, or at least I don’t think so.

Problems arose when I got a message saying that a previous OS was detected
(which was Windows 98), and that I could either continue installing or make
a backup. I searched this up online, and found absolutely no documentation
on this. I came to the conclusion that it would just format my C: drive and
continued. After I started the install however, it just installed all the
files alongside my old ones, so the installer completely skipped the part
where it would format the drive.

So now I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed, but my Windows 98 files still exist.
Is there anyway to replicate the formatting process from the CD-ROM (and
can I run the command from the CD-ROM)? If it involves using the format
command, can you tell me the exact command the installer uses? I kind of
have OCDs for that sort of thing, sorry. I’m looking to do a full format.

I would recommend a change for this in FreeDOS 1.3, to allow clean installs
of FreeDOS in place of the operating system currently installed.

Thanks in advance, and I can’t wait to try out FreeDOS on my old computer!
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Re: [Freedos-user] need help

[D.rama krishna]

Hi,

Please, see below the additional information. Please, provide me some 
information to resolve my issue.

Thank You,
Regards,
Rams




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To: Chris Evans aaxiomfin...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013, 18:16
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] need help
 


Hi Chris,

Thank you for the reply. Yes, it can be done manually. But, I wanted it to be 
happening automatically i.e. without manual intervention. As it happens with 
the other OS boots.

I have boot switch automated between the two OS (FDOS and Linux).


Thank You,
Regards,
Rams...





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about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
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Turn off watchdog timers in bios setup? 

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On Monday, August 19, 2013, D.rama krishna  wrote:

hi,

I am using free dos on intel platform for performing few diagnostics and bios 
update.

When BIOS boots to freedos the board gets restarted with in few seconds due to 
watch dog timer in BIOS.

How to handle this so that it is not an issue.

Request your suggestions and any supportive information on resolving this.

Thank You,
Regards,
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hi,

I am using free dos on intel platform for performing few diagnostics and bios 
update.

When BIOS boots to freedos the board gets restarted with in few seconds due to 
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Turn off watchdog timers in bios setup?

-Chris
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On Monday, August 19, 2013, D.rama krishna wrote:

 hi,

 I am using free dos on intel platform for performing few diagnostics and
 bios update.

 When BIOS boots to freedos the board gets restarted with in few seconds
 due to watch dog timer in BIOS.

 How to handle this so that it is not an issue.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

16-Сен-2006 08:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

M Many thanks for the suggestions but instead of doing stuff in my code...
M couldn't we somehow add a delay to FreeCOM before it exits (when called with
M /c) so everything gets flushed and it works for everyone?

 Trouble not in delay for flush, trouble that (old) FreeCOM was buggy.
Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine.

M Under command.com
M everything works as-is and it is a crime to patch my code instead of doing a
M general solution...

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That would be the edition.

On 9/18/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 18-Сен-2006 04:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
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 M With current you mean 1.0, or the latest build? 'cause I tried 1.0
 without
 M luck...
   Trouble not in delay for flush, trouble that (old) FreeCOM was
  buggy.
  Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine.

  Current - command.com, available from CVS (92787 bytes, FreeCom
 version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]). I don't know, which
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

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Hi!

18-Сен-2006 11:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

M I tried that exact version, when I type ver I get FreeCom version
M 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]... and the issue still
M happens...
 Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine.
  Current - command.com, available from CVS (92787 bytes, FreeCom
 version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]). I don't know, which
 edition was included into FreeDOS 1.0 distributive.

 Ok, then may you present test case? If you have source, which not
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files), so we may try to reproduce your trouble. Of course, try to minimize
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Marton]

Absolutely, the function is simple... just to see if two directories that
should have the same contents changed. Here it goes (hope it indents well):

int checkdir(void) {
int i, filesize = 0;
FILE *fp, *fp2;

system(dir c:\\data\\base1 c:\\data.dir);
fp = fopen(c:\\data.dir,r);
fp2 = fopen(c:\\dataorig.dir,r);
fseek(fp, 0, SEEK_END);
filesize = ftell(fp);
fseek(fp2, 0, SEEK_END);
if(filesize != ftell(fp2))
  filesize = -1;
rewind(fp); rewind(fp2);

for(i=0;ifilesize;i++)
{
  int file1data = 0, file2data = 0;
  fread(file1data,1,1,fp);
  fread(file2data,1,1,fp2);
  if(file1data != file2data)
break;
}

if(i != filesize)
  return 1;
else
  return 0;

fclose(fp);
fclose(fp2);
remove(c:\\data.dir);
remove(c:\\dataorig.dir);
  }
}

This always returns 1 because the file data.dir gets cut so the compare with
dataorig.dir always fails.

Thanks!!

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 M I tried that exact version, when I type ver I get FreeCom version
 M 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]... and the issue still
 M happens...
 Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine.
  Current - command.com, available from CVS (92787 bytes, FreeCom
 version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]). I don't know, which
 edition was included into FreeDOS 1.0 distributive.
 
  Ok, then may you present test case? If you have source, which not
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

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Hi!

18-Сен-2006 15:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
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M Absolutely, the function is simple... just to see if two directories that
M should have the same contents changed. Here it goes (hope it indents well):
M int checkdir(void) {
[...]
M system(dir c:\\data\\base1 c:\\data.dir);

 This source is incomplete and contains bugs, which makes it
incompilable, but this is unimportant - now I may reproduce the bug even
without extra program:

command/c ver
FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]
command/c dir test
TEST 0  19.09.06  2:55
command/c dir test
command/c dir test
TEST   525  19.09.06  2:56
command/c dir test test
command/c dir test
TEST 0  19.09.06  2:56

So, something really wrong, when cmd (dir above) have arguments and output
is redirected.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Marton]

Sounds great, Arkady. I'm glad my code at least helped to see the bug. Please
let me know if/when you fix it so I try it :)

Thanks!!
Marton


Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
 
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 18-Сен-2006 15:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
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 M Absolutely, the function is simple... just to see if two directories
 that
 M should have the same contents changed. Here it goes (hope it indents
 well):
 M int checkdir(void) {
 [...]
 M system(dir c:\\data\\base1 c:\\data.dir);
 
  This source is incomplete and contains bugs, which makes it
 incompilable, but this is unimportant - now I may reproduce the bug even
 without extra program:
 
command/c ver
 FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]
command/c dir test
 TEST 0  19.09.06  2:55
command/c dir test
command/c dir test
 TEST   525  19.09.06  2:56
command/c dir test test
command/c dir test
 TEST 0  19.09.06  2:56
 
 So, something really wrong, when cmd (dir above) have arguments and
 output
 is redirected.
 
  I will try to fix this later, when process patches, which accept
 Blair.
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Marton]

Many thanks for the suggestions but instead of doing stuff in my code...
couldn't we somehow add a delay to FreeCOM before it exits (when called with
/c) so everything gets flushed and it works for everyone? Under command.com
everything works as-is and it is a crime to patch my code instead of doing a
general solution...

Thanks again,
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[Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Johnson Lam]

Hi,

Please help Marton (marton=at=argentina.com), he stuck with a C
program calling COMMAND.COM:


Now that I moved onto my next step on my project, another issue
arised...
If I run this:

TestDir.bat:
dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put

The file dirout.put has the directory output...

BUT, if I do it this way:

TestDir2.bat:
command /c dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put

The file dirout.put has the directory output but CUT... it never
reaches the end of the output, it just cuts...

Tried with many command coms and kernel versions...

I really need to do it that way because I'm using the system()
function on my C program and it runs command /c with what to run as
an argument.

Any ideas on that?

Kind regards,
Marton


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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Blair Campbell]

Hi.  It almost sounds to me like the destination file isn't getting
flushed to the disk.  I would recommend doing the recirection
internally in the C program, and then you have direct control of the
file.  A simple close(1); open(blah, O_WRONLY); /* system() stuff
here: */ blah blah blah close(1); open(CON, O_WRONLY);
should do but there are also ways to 'save' the original stdout and
restore it later.  Get him to contact me for details.

On 9/16/06, Johnson Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Please help Marton (marton=at=argentina.com), he stuck with a C
 program calling COMMAND.COM:

 
 Now that I moved onto my next step on my project, another issue
 arised...
 If I run this:

 TestDir.bat:
 dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put

 The file dirout.put has the directory output...

 BUT, if I do it this way:

 TestDir2.bat:
 command /c dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put

 The file dirout.put has the directory output but CUT... it never
 reaches the end of the output, it just cuts...

 Tried with many command coms and kernel versions...

 I really need to do it that way because I'm using the system()
 function on my C program and it runs command /c with what to run as
 an argument.

 Any ideas on that?

 Kind regards,
 Marton
 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Johnson Lam]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:29:02 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Blair,

Thanks. Sent him email.

Hi.  It almost sounds to me like the destination file isn't getting
flushed to the disk.  I would recommend doing the recirection
internally in the C program, and then you have direct control of the
file.  A simple close(1); open(blah, O_WRONLY); /* system() stuff
here: */ blah blah blah close(1); open(CON, O_WRONLY);
should do but there are also ways to 'save' the original stdout and
restore it later.  Get him to contact me for details.

Rgds,
Johnson.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

16-Сен-2006 02:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

BC Hi.  It almost sounds to me like the destination file isn't getting
BC flushed to the disk.  I would recommend doing the recirection
BC internally in the C program, and then you have direct control of the
BC file.  A simple close(1); open(blah, O_WRONLY); /* system() stuff
BC here: */ blah blah blah close(1); open(CON, O_WRONLY);
BC should do but there are also ways to 'save' the original stdout and
BC restore it later.  Get him to contact me for details.
 BUT, if I do it this way:
 command /c dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put
 The file dirout.put has the directory output but CUT... it never
 reaches the end of the output, it just cuts...

 This is bug in FreeCOM. And this is reason, why in my patches for
FreeCOM I was tried to move command.com placement into bin/ subdirectory,
else (buggy) command.com (may) interfere with building process, but by some
unknown reason you reject this part of patches.

 About manual redirecting: using open(CON) is wrong, because this
prevents using program with redirection. The more so, if program uses
stdio..h, this way is even more wrong. I think, better way is something
like:

int redirfd = open (d:\dirout.put, O_CREAT | O_TRUNC | O_RDWR,
 S_IREAD | S_IWRITE);
if (redirfd != -1) { /* check for error */
  /* if using standard streams from stdio.h: */
  flushall (); /* flush all high level buffers */
  /* now privately store own stdout... */
  int oldstdout = dup (1);
  /* ...and open redirection */
  dup2 (redirfd, 1); close (redirfd);

  ...now do system(), spwan*() or exec*()...

  dup2 (oldstdout, 1); close (oldstdout);
}

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Blair Campbell]

I did say that there were ways to save/restore the original stdout...
I know that open(CON) is technically wrong, but at the same time it
works in most cases.

On 9/16/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 16-Сен-2006 02:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
 freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

 BC Hi.  It almost sounds to me like the destination file isn't getting
 BC flushed to the disk.  I would recommend doing the recirection
 BC internally in the C program, and then you have direct control of the
 BC file.  A simple close(1); open(blah, O_WRONLY); /* system() stuff
 BC here: */ blah blah blah close(1); open(CON, O_WRONLY);
 BC should do but there are also ways to 'save' the original stdout and
 BC restore it later.  Get him to contact me for details.
  BUT, if I do it this way:
  command /c dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put
  The file dirout.put has the directory output but CUT... it never
  reaches the end of the output, it just cuts...

  This is bug in FreeCOM. And this is reason, why in my patches for
 FreeCOM I was tried to move command.com placement into bin/ subdirectory,
 else (buggy) command.com (may) interfere with building process, but by some
 unknown reason you reject this part of patches.

  About manual redirecting: using open(CON) is wrong, because this
 prevents using program with redirection. The more so, if program uses
 stdio..h, this way is even more wrong. I think, better way is something
 like:

 int redirfd = open (d:\dirout.put, O_CREAT | O_TRUNC | O_RDWR,
  S_IREAD | S_IWRITE);
 if (redirfd != -1) { /* check for error */
   /* if using standard streams from stdio.h: */
   flushall (); /* flush all high level buffers */
   /* now privately store own stdout... */
   int oldstdout = dup (1);
   /* ...and open redirection */
   dup2 (redirfd, 1); close (redirfd);

   ...now do system(), spwan*() or exec*()...

   dup2 (oldstdout, 1); close (oldstdout);
 }

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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

16-Сен-2006 09:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

BC I did say that there were ways to save/restore the original stdout...

 But you not explain this for man, to whom you answer.

BC I know that open(CON) is technically wrong, but at the same time it
BC works in most cases.

 But why at once not write code, which (should) work in _all_ (not
most) cases? Especially, this is not complex.

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