Hi Jim,
yes, the roff-troff-groff (sounds like barking?) story reminds me in some way
to FreeDos.
Compared to LaTex (or Tex), groff is so much leaner and easier. It is still
well maintained and usable.
It allows output to html, text, ps, pdf… and regarding typsetting hardly
anything coming
Hi Liam,
maybe this is not the place to ask, but, vDOS looks nice. Strangely it can not
run the »Eve.exe«.
(Neither does DOSbox). Funny. Only FreeDOS allows. Might be a video issue.
regards,
Thomas
> On Mon,20210426- week17, at 18:59, Liam Proven wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 06:01,
Hello everybody,
which hardware would you recommend for running FreeDOS?
Are there any "modern" main boards that provide the neccessary BIOS
compatibility for running FreeDOS?
Is there a hardware compatibility list available?
Best regards.
Christoph
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Hello everybody,
I'm looking for ressources regarding game development for FreeDOS.
I couldn't find anything in the wiki, but maybe I didn't use the correct
keywords.
Can you point me to any good ressources regarding FreeDOS game development,
e.g. good articles tutorials or books.
Topics
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 10:03, Thomas Desi wrote:
>
> Hi Liam,
>
> maybe this is not the place to ask, but, vDOS looks nice. Strangely it can
> not run the »Eve.exe«.
> (Neither does DOSbox). Funny. Only FreeDOS allows. Might be a video issue.
I am not sure why you are replying to me, as I did
> which hardware would you recommend for running FreeDOS?
> Are there any "modern" main boards that provide the neccessary BIOS
> compatibility for running FreeDOS?
> Is there a hardware compatibility list available?
Regarding your hardware question: Obviously, you need a computer
which still
Hi!
> I'm looking for ressources regarding game development for FreeDOS.
> I couldn't find anything in the wiki, but maybe I didn't use the
> correct keywords.
For game development, there is no difference between FreeDOS and
other DOS versions. You can either read the classic resources from
On 27 Apr 2021 at 16:01, Eric Auer wrote:
> I agree that it will be tricky to ask vendors which styles
> their machine supports, but actually my impression is that
> support for booting DOS is not that exotic yet.
In my recent experience, and I don't sell office-grade PC hardware so
that
Hey I was wondering if it would make sense to step up FreeDOS to
actually you know, be bootable under UEFI ;) The CPUs still got support
for real mode so we should be fine.
W dniu 27.04.2021 o 16:41, Frantisek Rysanek pisze:
On 27 Apr 2021 at 16:01, Eric Auer wrote:
I agree that it will be
On 27/04/2021 18:00, Michał Dec wrote:
Hey I was wondering if it would make sense to step up FreeDOS to
actually you know, be bootable under UEFI ;) The CPUs still got support
for real mode so we should be fine.
Being able to boot is only the tip of the iceberg here. Without a
working BIOS
Hello Felix,
What this reads is if it has UEFI, it has no basic input/output system.
That makes no sense. Without *a* basic input/output system, by whatever
Well, in practice, when we talk about "BIOS" compatibility, we are
really referring to compatibility with "the" BIOS --- as in, the
Liam Proven composed on 2021-04-27 18:24 (UTC+0200):
> A BIOS is one type of firmware. UEFI is a different type of firmware.
> There are others, but not in PCs, usually.
> If a computer has UEFI, it doesn't have a BIOS. If it has a BIOS, it
> doesn't have UEFI.
> CSM is a UEFI feature. If a
On 27 Apr 2021 at 18:24, Liam Proven wrote:
> A BIOS is one type of firmware. UEFI is a different type of firmware.
>
point cordially taken.
I'll pay attention to be less casual about my vocabulary at this
mailing list :-)
I do have a bit of an etymological issue with the thing being called
a
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:24:13 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> If I called Linux "a kind of DOS" and tried to discuss the difference
> between MS-DOS, FreeDOS and Torvalds DOS we would all get very
> confused and we could not effectively communicate.
Well, this is not really true in tech, though. It
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 16:43, Frantisek Rysanek
wrote:
>
> ITX motherboards by Gigabyte, with BayTrail and Apollo Lake ATOM, do
> have the "legacy BIOS boot" (and CSM support) available in the BIOS.
A PC BIOS is a type of program stored in a repogrammable nonvolatile
memory chip on a PC's
Hi Christoph,
> From what I've gathered getting FreeDOS running on "modern" hardware is
> not trivial (if certain features are required/wished for) and the
> general experience running it in a virtual environment might be much
> better. I'll probably first go this (virtual) route and later...
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:45 AM Thomas Desi wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> yes, the roff-troff-groff (sounds like barking?) story reminds me in
>some way to FreeDos.
>
> Compared to LaTex (or Tex), groff is so much leaner and easier. It
>is still well maintained and usable.
>
> It allows output to html,
> Can you point me to any good ressources regarding FreeDOS game
> development, e.g. good articles tutorials or books. Topics should be
> mouse, keyboard and maybe joystick input, graphics and sound.
If you want real-world examples, a number of popular DOS games from the
90s are now open source,
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:43 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jim:
>
> > I also write a lot of tech articles in raw HTML. I use HTML when I
> > can't get the formatting I want through other means. What I like about
> > using HTML5 is the semantic code, so the tags hold some meaning.
>
> I
Sorry - lurking, but my 2c briefly:
there's a lot to be said for the self-satisfying, validating feeling of
actually physically handcrafting your thoughts for contribution to the broader
society as a whole. Whether those efforts actually makes an impact on that
society... well, does that really
Hi everybody,
thank you for the fast reply.
From what I've gathered getting FreeDOS running on "modern" hardware is not trivial (if certain features are required/wished for) and the general
experience running it in a virtual environment might be much better.
I'll probalby first go this
Hello,
thank you for your replies.
In the meantime i did find a few ressources regarding DOS game development.
I have some experience with SDL, but probably no version that supported DOS.
Though if using SDL I'll probably end up supporting other operating systems...
Does Allegro support DOS as
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 14:58, Eric Auer wrote:
> Computers which support ONLY UEFI
> operating systems will not work (unless you load a CSM, but there
> is none I could recommend for DOS).
CSM is short for Compatibility Support Module. It is a module that
enables UEFI firmware to also support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_Xw3sTgRk
W dniu 27.04.2021 o 15:43, Liam Proven pisze:
Therefore a salesperson will almost
certainly just lie and say "yes" to get the sale.
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Hi Liam,
> CSM is short for Compatibility Support Module. It is a module that
> enables UEFI firmware to also support "legacy" booting, i.e. BIOS
> compatibility. Windows 7 required this.
>
> UEFI vs BIOS is either-or. A single machine can't have both
There are machines where you can select
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 15:55, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>
> On 27/04/2021 15:43, Liam Proven wrote:
> > UEFI vs BIOS is either-or. A single machine can't have both, and I do
> > not know of any where it is a choice. It is a design decision.
>
> On my Thinkpads the BIOS allows to choose the boot method
Hi,
Just wanted to chime in with a question of my own.
Are there any resources for taking advantage of Voodoo 5500 or similar
post-Voodoo 2 GPUs in DOS?
Best regards,
Michał
W dniu 27.04.2021 o 14:57, Eric Auer pisze:
Hi!
I'm looking for ressources regarding game development for
On 27/04/2021 15:43, Liam Proven wrote:
UEFI vs BIOS is either-or. A single machine can't have both, and I do
not know of any where it is a choice. It is a design decision.
On my Thinkpads the BIOS allows to choose the boot method - either UEFI
or "legacy". The latter allows to boot DOS, the
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