Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi again, On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:30 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > FreeBASIC started in 2004 written in VBDOS (I think??) until it was > able to compile itself. The whole PDS suite was mainly about > supporting both DOS and OS/2 (until IBM and MS parted ways). Visual > BASIC never had any further DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

che Nachricht- > Von: Rugxulo > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2023 01:31 > An: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS? > > Hi, > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 2/16/2023 5:59 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: Just to chime in: There's still software in use written in FoxPro/DOS from 1994 :) In fact, I'm just upgrading and enhancing such a package. It's running from an USB-Stick (with FreeDos of course), which is plugged into a smallsized HP

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

. Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS? Hi, >From a practical standpoint, the only "Turbo Pascal for DOS" that is readily >available anymore is "old 5.5" (freeware, non-redistributable). So it's not >even the full TP 7

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:21 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > > In other words, you probably can't talk about "Turbo Pascal" proper, > > only the dialect as used in either GPC or FPC or p2c. They don't want > > you promoting or pointing people to proprietary software. > > Correct, you shouldn't write

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

> > On 2/6/2023 5:40 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > > Would you prefer an article on Pascal? I know you (also) are a fan of > > > it. An article from your experience there might be useful. > On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 9:49 PM Ralf Quint wrote: > > No, kind of programming language agnostic, with examples in

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 9:49 PM Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 2/6/2023 5:40 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Would you prefer an article on Pascal? I know you (also) are a fan of > > it. An article from your experience there might be useful. > No, kind of programming language agnostic, with examples in

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

I initially mis-read what Tom had written about programming on DOS being painful. He is not wrong. ;-0 I program "for" DOS for the challenge. But I don't program too much "on" DOS, because I'm not interested in challenging myself that much. I used to use Turbo C++ 3.0 for DOS on a DOS machine

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I think we're all here out of interest. i have a neighbor who "needs" yo run a dos app for his nusiness. He's the only one I know who "needs" to run dos. Everyone else does it out of interest who still has an ibm-pc or xt as their only computer? That said, if someone "wants" to write dos

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

>> programming *on* DOS in the year 2023 is like self flagellation. you >> are absolutely allowed to do it; it's just not recommended. > Why not? It worked just fine for all intends and purposes for two > decades, so why would that not be "recommended" to do so in 2023? because programming can

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 2/7/2023 3:40 AM, tom ehlert wrote: The use of (n)curses for example is a typical Unix thing, that has nothing to do with DOS and should not be shoehorned into a DOS application... add DEVICE=ANSI.SYS to your config.sys and you can easily 'port' (=compile and fix C compiler discrepacies)

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

> The use of (n)curses for example is a typical Unix thing, that has > nothing to do with DOS and should not be shoehorned into a DOS > application... add DEVICE=ANSI.SYS to your config.sys and you can easily 'port' (=compile and fix C compiler discrepacies) your curses programs to DOS. >>

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*I'm going to ignore all the off topic stuff in this conversation and bring it back to the original focus:* >> And yes, an article, possibly a series of articles, about programming on > >> DOS, for DOS, will be forthcoming... > > Would you prefer an article on Pascal? I know you (also) are a fan

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 2/6/2023 5:40 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 4:35 PM Ralf Quint wrote: On 2/6/2023 2:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Do you not understand that I see a lot of similarities between the two OSes? Certainly they share enough for various ports of useful tools to be made. It doesn't mean

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 4:35 PM Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 2/6/2023 2:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Do you not understand that I see a lot of similarities between the two > > OSes? Certainly they share enough for various ports of useful tools to > > be made. It doesn't mean they have much in

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 2/6/2023 2:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Do you not understand that I see a lot of similarities between the two OSes? Certainly they share enough for various ports of useful tools to be made. It doesn't mean they have much in common, but I still see a lot to learn from classic UNIX and the philosophy

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 3:18 PM Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 2/5/2023 12:06 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > The Art of Unix Programming attempts to capture the engineering wisdom > > and philosophy of the Unix community as it's applied today — not > > merely as it has been written down in the past, but as

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 2/5/2023 12:06 AM, Rugxulo wrote: The Art of Unix Programming attempts to capture the engineering wisdom and philosophy of the Unix community as it's applied today — not merely as it has been written down in the past, but as a living "special transmission, outside the scriptures" passed from

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 4:29 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:01 PM Mart Zirnask wrote: > > > > I'm definitely more of an end user, but I like the simplicity of both > > DOS and traditional Unix tools. > > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy > *

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 8:43 AM Liam Proven wrote: >[..] > But I have a suggestion: > > How to install FreeDOS onto a USB key, so you can boot a BIOS-equipped > PC into DOS from USB. I've done this myself and it works very well. > > You can create the key using VirtualBox, and then run it either

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 3:01 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello Jim, > > Is this list of topics available somewhere on the web? The list here > looks far shorter and does NOT include FreeDOS: > > The A to Z list of writing topics for Opensource.com | Opensource.com > I think they need to

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Hello Jim, Is this list of topics available somewhere on the web? The list here looks far shorter and does NOT include FreeDOS: The A to Z list of writing topics for Opensource.com | Opensource.com Aitor On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 at

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 at 19:41, Jim Hall wrote: > > If anyone here is interested in writing articles about FreeDOS, > Opensource.com is interested in running FreeDOS articles. As I write full-time for a competing publication, I can't. But I have a suggestion: How to install FreeDOS onto a USB

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On 30/01/2023, Jim Hall wrote: > SAM is a window-based editor, so it uses graphics mode. To me, this > looks a lot like the window editor on the Apollo/DOMAIN system - I > managed a small Apollo/DOMAIN network in the mid 1990s. You can find a > screenshot of SAM on Wikipedia: >

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Travis, While certainly such an article can exist, speaking personally, treating accessibility as if it must be built, one population at a time is frankly a disservice. In fact, speaking personally, that is part of why accessibility has made such little progress, in part to be sure. One does

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Yes, but if they want articles on accessibility, I see no reason why an article on visually impaired access with screen readers can't be an article.  If folks want to write articles for other accessibility features, then feel free to do so.  I can't write about what I don't know. On

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Yes, it still exists, but I doubt it handles anything relatively modern, with the exception of web pages, since that hasn't changed very much. On 1/29/2023 8:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: does this package still exist, and if so, how does it manage more current authentication  needs? Kare

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Well, unless he has left, He is still on list. He did, if memory serves, get permission from the creator of asap and asaw to include it in his project. I might be entirely wrong, or he has a different one for dosbox. However, as shared, access is not about screen readers alone, it is frankly

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Possibly, but asap isn't opensource, so no article there. I do have an opensource screen reader, but again, it requires a physical synth, so I need to work on that somehow. Plus I have to find where I stuffed the source, it's around here somewhere, but I haven't seen it in a while. On the

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does this package still exist, and if so, how does it manage more current authentication needs? Kare On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Travis Siegel wrote: Actually, that reminds me of a package called ka9q, which provides a complete tcp/ip stack to dos, that allows all kinds of net access to ftp,

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does not Joseph have a working edition of freedos using asap, as a screen reader? The journey to getting accessibility, not just screen readers, but voice tools for those needing that kind of inclusion, might make for an interesting piece. Since opensource seeks well open source smiles, the

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Actually, that reminds me of a package called ka9q, which provides a complete tcp/ip stack to dos, that allows all kinds of net access to ftp, smtp, telnet, and probably other things I don't remember.  That's probably a really good article waiting to happen. I actually used that package to

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

I suppose if they're interested in articles on accessibility, I should probably write one on visually impaired access.  I tried to get a screen reader included into the project several years ago, and was turned down, because of the license of the code, even though it didn't have any

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 4:39 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > What is their compensation rate? > Opensource.com is a volunteer-contributor site, so writing is uncompensated. I get paid to write for other websites and magazines, but I choose to volunteer on this one.

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:01 PM Mart Zirnask wrote: > > > > If I manage to build the command line mode of Rob Pike's sam editor > > [1] for DOS, I could probably do a writeup on how to use it. Because > > of the so-called structural regular expressions [2, 3], it is a really > > interesting

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

What is their compensation rate? On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Jim Hall wrote: If anyone here is interested in writing articles about FreeDOS, Opensource.com is interested in running FreeDOS articles. I write articles for them sometimes, and the FreeDOS articles perform very well on the site. In

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:01 PM Mart Zirnask wrote: > > If I manage to build the command line mode of Rob Pike's sam editor > [1] for DOS, I could probably do a writeup on how to use it. Because > of the so-called structural regular expressions [2, 3], it is a really > interesting editor.

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:39 PM Eze B wrote: > I’d love a place to learn more about Freedos and a place with > articles for a beginner/entry. My dad who passed away used a program > named IMAGE to make programs for CNC machining on Freedos. I myself > have 0 knowledge when it comes to Freedos, I

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 3:42 PM Rugxulo wrote: >[..] > I assume you meant we can (also) write open source articles about the > above subjects, too. But, AFAIK, none of those directly relates or > interacts with FreeDOS. > Correct. I shared the entire list (verbatim) that the editors shared, so

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On 29/01/2023 22:00, Mart Zirnask wrote: Another article worth considering is an overview of SvarDOS, or is it not ready for this yet? A comparison of SvarDOS versus FreeDOS -- or am I currently in the wrong church with this? :) Sounds great. I'd definitely welcome such write-up. An article

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 12:40 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > If anyone here is interested in writing articles about FreeDOS, > Opensource.com is interested in running FreeDOS articles. > > Here's the list they shared, in case this inspires anyone to write an article: > > - apt > - Chaos Engineering

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

I’d love a place to learn more about Freedos and a place with articles for a beginner/entry. My dad who passed away used a program named IMAGE to make programs for CNC machining on Freedos. I myself have 0 knowledge when it comes to Freedos, I just know how to find the programs but I have no

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

If I manage to build the command line mode of Rob Pike's sam editor [1] for DOS, I could probably do a writeup on how to use it. Because of the so-called structural regular expressions [2, 3], it is a really interesting editor. Excellent for processing arbitrary strings that spawn across multiple

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 1:38 PM Linvel Risner wrote: > I’m by no means a FreeDOS expert, I’m just a user, but if anyone > would like help writing an article I’m here to help. I know our > community is very diverse linguistically and as a result I’m > more than happy to lend a hand to an English

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> On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, 18:41 Jim Hall, wrote: >> >> If anyone here is interested in writing articles about FreeDOS, >> Opensource.com is interested in running FreeDOS articles. I write >> articles for them sometimes, and the FreeDOS articles perform very >> well on the site. In fact, they

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I’m by no means a FreeDOS expert, I’m just a user, but if anyone would like help writing an article I’m here to help. I know our community is very diverse linguistically and as a result I’m more than happy to lend a hand to an English as a second language speaker/writer. I would take no credit,

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That sounds like the sort of thing I'd be interested in doing, but what sort of article are they looking for? Are they after a "history of FreeDOS" type article, because that's been done so many times it would be hard to write anything original, wouldn't it? I look forward to hearing your

[Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

If anyone here is interested in writing articles about FreeDOS, Opensource.com is interested in running FreeDOS articles. I write articles for them sometimes, and the FreeDOS articles perform very well on the site. In fact, they recently listed FreeDOS among their list of "topics we're interested