Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A HELP-FILE CORRECTION.)
On 10/28/2011 1:03 PM, Mark Brown wrote: it's just that upper case letters are so much more intelligible, so much more understandable. time was they were used like that somewhere, like on the defense internet that was handed off to the people for freedom of speech in ~1974... Communicating only in upper case letters should have ended back when computers and terminals that supported upper and lower case letters became available. That was a long time ago. The defense internet (ARPANet) was not handed off to the people for freedom of speech in 1974. Freedom of speech implies some responsibility to use it wisely. Mike -- Get your Android app more play: Bring it to the BlackBerry PlayBook in minutes. BlackBerry App World™ now supports Android™ Apps for the BlackBerry® PlayBook™. Discover just how easy and simple it is! http://p.sf.net/sfu/android-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A HELP-FILE CORRECTION.)
At 11:03 AM 10/28/2011, Mark Brown wrote: >it's just that upper case letters are so much more intelligible, >so much more understandable. time was they were used like that somewhere, >like on the defense internet that was handed off to the people for >freedom of speech in ~1974... > >get it, freedom of speech. like freedos. Nonsense. On all counts. If with "defense internet" you refer to the ARPANET, that was not considered "operational" until 1975 and was merged into the NSFNET (which existed since 1981) when the switch from using NCP to TCP/IP in 1983 was made. The Internet was under that name wasn't generally available until 1986. I got my own first Internet account back in 1987 through the university of Bonn, though mainly used through a gateway from the FIDONET... > >i thought so. > >i'll continue to use the block caps when i think expedient. Since the early days of the Internet and going back into the days when BBS where the mainstay for international/distant communication, writing all caps is considered YELLING in all but those lists/(usenet) groups that specifically deal with systems that are not lower/mixed case capable. And that certainly doesn't apply to any form of DOS [OT] And in general, do yourself and your fellow country men a favor and stop perverting/abusing your constitution and amendments for your own lowly purposes... [/OT] Ralf -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A HELP-FILE CORRECTION.)
Op 28-10-2011 20:03, Mark Brown schreef: > and thanks to those fixing the high memory and xms drivers so they're solid > and stable: > no more tumbling numbers on my notebook. > and as regards "nobody uses them" below, > the 1.0 and/or 1.1 test_3 distribution(s) definitely did use them. > /F /MSG > most sincerely, We're continuing a good tradition of using semi-undocumented switches :) MSDOS: [ http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/command.htm ] Thanks for proofreading already. Personally I think not that many people will be proofreading help texts etcetera till a 1.1 distribution has been released. Same for translating or bugfixing. As for things written using capslock or shift keys, in good old internet tradition (netiquette?) it's considered some form of shouting. To each their own though, be it capitals, *stars*, bold HTML codes or whatever. -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A HELP-FILE CORRECTION.)
it's just that upper case letters are so much more intelligible, so much more understandable. time was they were used like that somewhere, like on the defense internet that was handed off to the people for freedom of speech in ~1974... get it, freedom of speech. like freedos. i thought so. i'll continue to use the block caps when i think expedient. p.s. i say: in the help file, it should be documented that the switches are only there for either 1) compatibility with ms-dos, or 2) other stuff all, so people who read the batch files put on the 1.0 and 1.1 test_3 distributions know exactly what's going on there... less left to chance is more stability and that would be nice in a (batch for example) programming language/operating system. more stable is a good thing. and thanks to those fixing the high memory and xms drivers so they're solid and stable: no more tumbling numbers on my notebook. and as regards "nobody uses them" below, the 1.0 and/or 1.1 test_3 distribution(s) definitely did use them. /F /MSG most sincerely, eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com > >From: Tom Ehlert >To: Mark Brown ; freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:48 AM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A >HELP-FILE CORRECTION.) > >Hi, > >> THE HELP-COMMAND SCREEN FILE HAS IMPROVED WELL. >> BUT IT STILL NEEDS ONE THING: >> UNDER THE TOPIC "SHELL" AND "SHELLHIGH", >> THE SWITCHES >> /F and >> /MSG >> NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED, >> SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO FIDDLE WITH THE SWITCHES TO SEE HOW THEY WORK. > >both are related to the non-XMS-swapping command.com, so they are >useless (or rather 'nobody uses them so they are of no use'). > > > >> (as of now they're undocumented in the whole helpfile.) >no need to document useless stuff > >btw: you seem to have a problem with your caps lock key > >Tom > > > >-- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] *** HEAR YE, HEAR YE *** (FREEDOS 1.1 NEEDS A HELP-FILE CORRECTION.)
Hi, > THE HELP-COMMAND SCREEN FILE HAS IMPROVED WELL. > BUT IT STILL NEEDS ONE THING: > UNDER THE TOPIC "SHELL" AND "SHELLHIGH", > THE SWITCHES > /F and > /MSG > NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED, > SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO FIDDLE WITH THE SWITCHES TO SEE HOW THEY WORK. both are related to the non-XMS-swapping command.com, so they are useless (or rather 'nobody uses them so they are of no use'). > (as of now they're undocumented in the whole helpfile.) no need to document useless stuff btw: you seem to have a problem with your caps lock key Tom -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
