Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
> by "I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems" > though. Do you mean the cdrom .sys driver file? If so, yes there are. I > have one installed. Yes, that is what I meant. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Bernd Blaauw wrote: Nick Bright schreef: -=-=-=-=-=-=- SNIP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nice to actually see that people read documentation :) At the time I wrote those texts, there were no *known and working* (IDE/SCSI) cdromdrivers for config.sys, and also the 8086-compatible version of SHSUCDX wasn't released yet. Yes, sometimes it seems that not many people read documentation anymore :) I perfer to read as much documentation as possible before posting to a mailing list, so as to make a well informed posting (as well as not look like an idiot). I also belive strongly in not posting "I solved it." to the list, but rather "I solved it, here's the solution" However, as pointed out to me by Bernd in a private email, I am using a fairly old copy of the CD (SR1). I'm going to start all over with the latest ODIN and post results in a little bit. As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? "DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z " instead of above driver, could you also try ASPICD.SYS? It's closed source, so we cannot see if it works on pre386 systems, As it's SCSI, maybe even a SCSI DVDdrive would work (Pioneer 105S maybe?) :) ASPICD.SYS is from: http://www.techadvice.com/w98/S/Startup-Disk_w98.htm Usually cdrom driver components are the following: *cdrom hardware device *controller + specific controller driver: DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3 *generic device driver for some type of device (Disk, or CD): DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z *ISO9660 redirector: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 (or MSCDEX maybe) As that device-type driver should be generic, you might have a chance of switching to ASPICD.SYS Another generic driver should be SYMCD.SYS, available in package at: http://www.lsilogic.com/downloads/license.do?id=2000&did=2907&pid=2099 I hope you're able to run any programs - DOS is a memoryhog if only conventional memory is available. thanks for the 'adding cdrom to ancient computer' link. Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Nick Bright schreef: Compile-time options: 8086, CD root form not used, High Sierra supported, Joliet supported, image on CD supported. Run-time options: tilde generation is off, read only attribute is on This would seem to indicate that this version of shsucdex is compatible with this system, no? correct, sometimes I rename files in order to achieve maximum compatibility. It happens that programmers release separate 8086 drivers, but give them an alternative name. SHSUCDX 3.02 available from http://www.geocities.com/jadoxa/shsucdx/ Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
> This would seem to indicate that this version of shsucdex is compatible > with this system, no? That would. However, there is a file called shcdx86.com. This is the file I meant. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Nick Bright schreef: -=-=-=-=-=-=- SNIP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nice to actually see that people read documentation :) At the time I wrote those texts, there were no *known and working* (IDE/SCSI) cdromdrivers for config.sys, and also the 8086-compatible version of SHSUCDX wasn't released yet. As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? "DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z " instead of above driver, could you also try ASPICD.SYS? It's closed source, so we cannot see if it works on pre386 systems, As it's SCSI, maybe even a SCSI DVDdrive would work (Pioneer 105S maybe?) :) ASPICD.SYS is from: http://www.techadvice.com/w98/S/Startup-Disk_w98.htm Usually cdrom driver components are the following: *cdrom hardware device *controller + specific controller driver: DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3 *generic device driver for some type of device (Disk, or CD): DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z *ISO9660 redirector: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 (or MSCDEX maybe) As that device-type driver should be generic, you might have a chance of switching to ASPICD.SYS Another generic driver should be SYMCD.SYS, available in package at: http://www.lsilogic.com/downloads/license.do?id=2000&did=2907&pid=2099 I hope you're able to run any programs - DOS is a memoryhog if only conventional memory is available. thanks for the 'adding cdrom to ancient computer' link. Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Nick Bright wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: There is an 8086 version of SHSUCDX available, so you musn't use SHSUCDX to load the extentions, but you must instead use SHSUCD86 or something like this. I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems, however. I'll try SHSUCD86 and see what happens. I'm not sure what you refer to by "I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems" though. Do you mean the cdrom .sys driver file? If so, yes there are. I have one installed. Correction to myself. I am assuming this driver works with the PC XT since the document I read indicates as such. - Nick I can't find an "SHSUCD86.*" anywhere on the SR1 CD, though I haven't really looked elsewhere yet. I did look at the output of SHSUCDX /V though, which indicates: Compile-time options: 8086, CD root form not used, High Sierra supported, Joliet supported, image on CD supported. Run-time options: tilde generation is off, read only attribute is on This would seem to indicate that this version of shsucdex is compatible with this system, no? - Nick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Nick Bright wrote: Blair Campbell wrote: As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? There is an 8086 version of SHSUCDX available, so you musn't use SHSUCDX to load the extentions, but you must instead use SHSUCD86 or something like this. I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems, however. I'll try SHSUCD86 and see what happens. I'm not sure what you refer to by "I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems" though. Do you mean the cdrom .sys driver file? If so, yes there are. I have one installed. Correction to myself. I am assuming this driver works with the PC XT since the document I read indicates as such. - Nick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
Blair Campbell wrote: As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? There is an 8086 version of SHSUCDX available, so you musn't use SHSUCDX to load the extentions, but you must instead use SHSUCD86 or something like this. I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems, however. I'll try SHSUCD86 and see what happens. I'm not sure what you refer to by "I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems" though. Do you mean the cdrom .sys driver file? If so, yes there are. I have one installed. - Nick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
> As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a > pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the > cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for > that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 > optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? There is an 8086 version of SHSUCDX available, so you musn't use SHSUCDX to load the extentions, but you must instead use SHSUCD86 or something like this. I'm not sure if there are any drivers available for pre-386 systems, however. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
I had some trouble getting the drive to work on my XT, though when i put the controller and drive on another machine, it seemed to work ok. In the readme.txt file from the beta9sr1 ISO file I found this: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- SNIP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Platform:what to download: - 8086/80186/80286 : - download diskette distribution if available http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/old/beta9sr1/disksets - alternative #1: download ODIN (One Disk INstaller) http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/old/beta9sr1/disksets/ODIN - alternative #2: download zipfile and split onto disks: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/old/beta9sr1/disksets/zipfiles - alternative #3: get FreeDOS install disk http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/old/beta9sr1/fdos1440.img There are no known cdrom drivers for pre-386 systems, please contact us if you have a pre-386 system equiped with a CD or DVD drive, so we might consider writing a cdromdriver for these old systems. -=-=-=-=-=-=- SNIP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- As you can see from my previous mailing list post, I do indeed have a pre-386 system with a CDROM. The above snip leads me to belive that the cdextensions file (though it runs on my XT) hasn't been debugged for that platform, and may not even be properly compiled (e.g. 386 optimizations)? Could any devs shed some light on this, perhaps? - Nick Bright Nick Bright wrote: I hit up google and actually found a driver specific to this 8 bit scsi card I've got on Adaptec's website. For the sake of the list, I will post a link to the page as well as the scsi driver and some notes: "Adding a CDROM to an XT": http://www.seasip.info/AmstradXT/cdrom.html Adaptec PowerSCSI software: http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?sess=no&filekey=pwrscsi4.exe&language=English+US Driver works with the following SCSI Products (and possibly others): SCSI2GO TMC-830 TMC-845 TMC-850M TMC-860M TMC-885M TMC-PNP-1630 TMC-PNP-1640 Configuration Directives to load driver: Config.sys example: DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3 DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z |DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3| says that there's a Future Domain SCSI controller at address CA00h, IRQ 3. These settings match the jumpers on the SCSI card itself. I set the card to IRQ 3 so it wouldn't conflict with the hard drive controller on the motherboard. |DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z| says that there's a CDROM drive attached to the controller. The |/D:MSCD0001| gives the drive an ID so that MSCDEX can use it (see below). The other bits (|/F/R/Z| are options to do with scanning for the drive, and probably aren't necessary). Autoexec.bat example: shsucdx /Q /D:FDCD0001 I'm still working on getting my particular machine going with this, the above text is taken from the first link in this message. Credit goes, of course, to the author of that page. - Nick Bright Blair Campbell wrote: boot floppy image and wrote it to disk. It does boot and read the hard drive ok, but I have yet to figure out how to make the SCSI CD-ROM work. Is there a generic driver for SCSI cd-rom? Try doing a search for ASPICD.SYS --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
I hit up google and actually found a driver specific to this 8 bit scsi card I've got on Adaptec's website. For the sake of the list, I will post a link to the page as well as the scsi driver and some notes: "Adding a CDROM to an XT": http://www.seasip.info/AmstradXT/cdrom.html Adaptec PowerSCSI software: http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?sess=no&filekey=pwrscsi4.exe&language=English+US Driver works with the following SCSI Products (and possibly others): SCSI2GO TMC-830 TMC-845 TMC-850M TMC-860M TMC-885M TMC-PNP-1630 TMC-PNP-1640 Configuration Directives to load driver: Config.sys example: DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3 DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z |DEVICE=DCAM950.EXE /CA00 3| says that there's a Future Domain SCSI controller at address CA00h, IRQ 3. These settings match the jumpers on the SCSI card itself. I set the card to IRQ 3 so it wouldn't conflict with the hard drive controller on the motherboard. |DEVICE=FDCD.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /F/R/Z| says that there's a CDROM drive attached to the controller. The |/D:MSCD0001| gives the drive an ID so that MSCDEX can use it (see below). The other bits (|/F/R/Z| are options to do with scanning for the drive, and probably aren't necessary). Autoexec.bat example: shsucdx /Q /D:FDCD0001 I'm still working on getting my particular machine going with this, the above text is taken from the first link in this message. Credit goes, of course, to the author of that page. - Nick Bright Blair Campbell wrote: boot floppy image and wrote it to disk. It does boot and read the hard drive ok, but I have yet to figure out how to make the SCSI CD-ROM work. Is there a generic driver for SCSI cd-rom? Try doing a search for ASPICD.SYS --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on PC XT
> boot floppy image and wrote it to disk. It does boot and read the hard > drive ok, but I have yet to figure out how to make the SCSI CD-ROM work. > Is there a generic driver for SCSI cd-rom? Try doing a search for ASPICD.SYS --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
