Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 11-Июл-2005 17:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: MD> Never load a driver, shell, or application before HIMEM and EMM386. They MD> are fundamental first loaders as they configure your basic memory MD> situation. That SHELL command has got to c

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-13 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: Ok, this fails with BOTH UMBPCI and EMM386 in my Emachines T1600 and on an HP Pavillion P4. It works with UMBPCI and not EMM386 on a Dell D600. I guess I need to try DOS=HIGH without UMB, but I'm beginning to think NTFS4DOS is busted. Next step I suppose is to try MSDOS 6.22, like t

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-13 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:14 PM 7/13/2005 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Will try DOS=HIGH only. Thanks! Too bad UMBPCI doesn't work on all the computers. :-( Well, if DOS=HIGH doesn't do it, I may have to d/l NTFS4DOS myself, force 64K UMB, and see if I get the same fragmentation. Something bizarre going on with

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-13 Thread Mark Bailey
Hi Michael: OK, I believe the application does use VGA graphics. :-( Will try DOS=HIGH only. Thanks! Too bad UMBPCI doesn't work on all the computers. :-( Mark Michael Devore wrote: At 08:23 AM 7/13/2005 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: OK. Development Kernel, Development command.com, Developm

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-13 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:23 AM 7/13/2005 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: OK. Development Kernel, Development command.com, Development SYS, new emm386/himem, NTFS4DOS 1.4. The INSTALLHIGH failed. Interestingly, a "LOADHIGH" failed with ALMOST the same error and a little more information: DOS/32A fatal (1001): DOS re

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-13 Thread Mark Bailey
Hi Michael: OK. Development Kernel, Development command.com, Development SYS, new emm386/himem, NTFS4DOS 1.4. The INSTALLHIGH failed. Interestingly, a "LOADHIGH" failed with ALMOST the same error and a little more information: DOS/32A fatal (1001): DOS reported insufficient memory, additiona

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:11 AM 7/13/2005 +, you wrote: Hi Michael: Thanks again for the help. That didn't change the symptoms at all from just using NOEMS...still get the error from DOS/32A! What does DOSDATA=UMB do? I am booting from a USB floppy drive most of the time...occasionally from a CD with a 1.44M

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: Thanks again for the help. That didn't change the symptoms at all from just using NOEMS...still get the error from DOS/32A! What does DOSDATA=UMB do? I am booting from a USB floppy drive most of the time...occasionally from a CD with a 1.44MByte floppy disk image. Development kerne

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread Michael Devore
At 01:31 PM 7/12/2005 -0400, Mark wrote: OK, here is the config.sys file I used with emm386. Note that including NOEMS on the command line causes the installhigh to FAIL with: DOS/32A fatal (1002): DOS reported insufficient memory Well, the problem is here. You need the NOEMS option to free

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread Mark Bailey
Hi Michael: First, let me say thanks to you and Eric Auer and everyone else for the amazing support I've gotten in my efforts to learn and use FreeDOS. I've used many commercial operating systems, and this level of support is better than I have seen with any of them! OK, here is the config.sys f

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:03 AM 7/12/2005 -0400, Mark wrote: So far, NTFS4DOS INSTALLHIGH works with UMBPCI but not with EMM386. I have 213K of conventional memory free when running NTFS4DOS from the command line or using INSTALLHIGH with EMM386 and 550K of conventional memory free when using UMBPCI. We need a M

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-12 Thread Mark Bailey
Good morning, Michael, Eric, et al: The addition of "NOEMS" to the EMM386 startup in config.sys caused the following error when executing the INSTALLHIGH. DOS/32A fatal (1002): DOS reported insufficient memory It did eliminate the complaints about page frames and no suitable UMB memory block.

Re: [Freedos-user] NTFS4DOS and FreeDOS - Works with UMBPCI, Fails with EMM386

2005-07-11 Thread Michael Devore
Never load a driver, shell, or application before HIMEM and EMM386. They are fundamental first loaders as they configure your basic memory situation. That SHELL command has got to come later in CONFIG.SYS. The rest should be fine, although I'd still stick them afterwards for form's sake. Be