Re: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos
Hi all Sorry for the delay in response, but have been away from office. Eric Auer wrote: If you run cwsdpmi like that, it will probably not stay in RAM? Apps made with FreeBASIC will just load cwsdpmi themselves while they are running and will unload it afterwards :-). In short: Things should work at least equally well without that line... I didnt realise that, but after testing I have confirmed you are correct. cd\usb usbuhci IRQ 11 DisableLegacySupport I assume the IRQ can also be set automatically? Yes, just leave the line as usbuhci only usbprint usbmouse C:\Dos32\ctmouse Cute :-) Does it support more advanced PS/2 commands as well, in other words, can things like third button and wheel be enabled by the ctmouse usbmouse combo? I believe it does, but I have no use for it, so didnt test it. ... 10 Micro Sec on a 533Mhz Industrial Board, with a FreeBasic / CGUI app. Previously I used a 2 button mouse pad on ps2. Using the usb mouse driver with a Microsoft mouse didnt change the timing at all, which I am very pleased about. Great news :-) I remember running something with 1 msec TSC based time measurements on a classic Athlon a few years ago - there the BIOS USB driver did cause delays big enough to make me switch to real PS/2 mice again. Eric In real time control, any delay is painfull. I am re-testing with FreeDos again after a problem was discovered. Brett tells me he has listed it, but I couldnt find it. However in a Nutshell the stacks statement was considered to be the problem. So, now re-testing with Stacks=0,0 Anyone interested in reading the thread on the usb forum, here is the link http://bretjohnson.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=107sid=10c1bc11c54b8f19084a65a8dd54f6d2 Regards -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos
Hi JVP, thanks for testing the Bret Johnson USB drivers :-) ... usb mouse attached to my FreeBasic/FreeDos application C:\Dos32\DosLFN.com C:\Dos32\cwsdpmi.exe If you run cwsdpmi like that, it will probably not stay in RAM? Apps made with FreeBASIC will just load cwsdpmi themselves while they are running and will unload it afterwards :-). In short: Things should work at least equally well without that line... cd\usb usbuhci IRQ 11 DisableLegacySupport I assume the IRQ can also be set automatically? usbprint usbmouse C:\Dos32\ctmouse Cute :-) Does it support more advanced PS/2 commands as well, in other words, can things like third button and wheel be enabled by the ctmouse usbmouse combo? ... 10 Micro Sec on a 533Mhz Industrial Board, with a FreeBasic / CGUI app. Previously I used a 2 button mouse pad on ps2. Using the usb mouse driver with a Microsoft mouse didnt change the timing at all, which I am very pleased about. Great news :-) I remember running something with 1 msec TSC based time measurements on a classic Athlon a few years ago - there the BIOS USB driver did cause delays big enough to make me switch to real PS/2 mice again. Eric -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos
Hi JVP, thanks for testing the Bret Johnson USB drivers :-)
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cd\usb
usbuhci IRQ 11 DisableLegacySupport
I assume the IRQ can also be set automatically?
Yes, the IRQ is normally set automatically, either by the BIOS or by
USBUHCI{L}. The reason JVP needed to change it was because the BIOS configured
the USB Host Controller to use IRQ 12, which conflicts with the PS2 mouse
software. IRQ 12 is supposed to be dedicated to the PS2 mouse, and is never
supposed to be used for anything else.
usbprint
usbmouse
C:\Dos32\ctmouse
Cute :-) Does it support more advanced PS/2 commands
as well, in other words, can things like third button
and wheel be enabled by the ctmouse usbmouse combo?
USBMOUSE supports three different mouse protocols: the regular PS2 protocol
(max 3 buttons, no wheels), the IntelliMouse protocol (max 3 buttons, 1 wheel),
and the IntelliMouse2 protocol (max 5 buttons, 2 wheels). CTMOUSE currently
supports the first two protocols, so if your USB mouse has a wheel it will work
just fine with CTMOUSE and USBMOUSE. If CTMOUSE is ever upgraded to support
the IntelliMouse2 protocol, and your mouse has 5 buttons and/or 2 wheels,
USBMOUSE already supports it and everything will work just fine.
USBMOUSE also supports multiple mice at the same time, including a real PS2
mouse. So, you can have a right-handed USB mouse, a left-handed USB mouse, a
USB trackball, and a real PS2 mouse of some sort on the same computer and
switch back and forth between them (or even use them all at the same time) if
you want. It also supports plug-and-play for the USB mice, so if you have
more than one USB mouse but don't have enough hub ports to plug them all in at
the same time, you can simply unplug and swap them around any time you want
without needing to reboot.
USBPRINT allows you to print to USB printers from real DOS, without needing
to do it from a DOS box underneath Windows (which is the normal way everybody
does it now). USBPRINT also allows two-way communication to both USB and
parallel printers, so you can download configuration data (such as printer
identification and ink level information) from the printers. This would also
allow someone to create a DOS application to use the scanner and fax functions
on a multi-function printer (such an applications has not yet been developed,
but it is very possible to do). USBPRINT also has several other features that
should make printing better in DOS, both for USB printers and parallel
printers. You don't actually need a USB printer for USBPRINT to be useful to
you.
... 10 Micro Sec on a 533Mhz Industrial Board, with
a FreeBasic / CGUI app.
Previously I used a 2 button mouse pad on ps2.
Using the usb mouse driver with a Microsoft mouse didnt change the
timing at all, which I am very pleased about.
Great news :-) I remember running something with 1 msec
TSC based time measurements on a classic Athlon a few
years ago - there the BIOS USB driver did cause delays
big enough to make me switch to real PS/2 mice again.
Eric
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Re: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos
Could that lead to the use of USB network interfaces? --- On Mon, 7/6/09, jvp j...@compu-weigh.com.au wrote: From: jvp j...@compu-weigh.com.au Subject: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:08 PM Hi all I have tested the recently released usb interface for Dos by Bret Johnson and now have a usb mouse attached to my FreeBasic /FreeDos application. Although I have seen the discussion on this, I thought I would share my experience. This is a really welcome development for FreeDos users, as the availability of ps2 and serial devices is starting to dry up It is my intention to swap the mouse for a joystick with a single thumb button. For those that are interested, this is the Autoexec.bat extract which works for me. Path C:\dos32; C:\Dos32\DosLFN.com C:\Dos32\cwsdpmi.exe cd\usb usbuhci IRQ 11 DisableLegacySupport usbprint usbmouse cd\ C:\Dos32\ctmouse C:\Dos32\LBACache My app has a loop timer in micro sec's, and it allows me to keep track of changes that cause longer than expected execution times. It runs at 10 Micro Sec on a 533Mhz Industrial Board, with a FreeBasic / CGUI app. Previously I used a 2 button mouse pad on ps2. Using the usb mouse driver with a Microsoft mouse didnt change the timing at all, which I am very pleased about. Regards -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB for FreeDos
Hi Larry wrote: Could that lead to the use of USB network interfaces? Havent even dreamt of that, I have only just completed cURL on FreeDos using Ethernet. Regards -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
