Re: [Freedos-user] VIA C7-M processor

2022-11-27 Thread Nik
Yes... well thats a Grumpy Behaviour... Well, I realised that it is
something with the addressing in 386 manager... Without, it runs fine, boot
1.3, startupscreen option 3.
Anyway, if someone knows more about the addressing of the cm7 processor and
wants to share it. Beside I have installed freedos for about 1 day

Greet, Nik

Op zo 27 nov. 2022 om 19:16 schreef tom ehlert :

>
> > Hello, I'm new to freedos, I have installed this on a nice small
> > laptop, a HP 2133 with  VIA C7-M processor. It works nice, but the 386
> memory manager crashes.
> > I do not know how to solve this.
>
> "it works nice, but the 386 memory manager crashes."
>
>
> doesn't make much sense.
>
> as a 20+ year DOS user you should know that
>
> a) CONFIG.SYS
> b) AUTOEXEC.BAT
> C) a more detailed error report of what you are doing and what the
> error looks like are necessary to even start advising.
>
>
> either a+b+c or simply go away.
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] VIA C7-M processor

2022-11-27 Thread tom ehlert


> Hello, I'm new to freedos, I have installed this on a nice small
> laptop, a HP 2133 with  VIA C7-M processor. It works nice, but the 386 memory 
> manager crashes.
> I do not know how to solve this.

"it works nice, but the 386 memory manager crashes."


doesn't make much sense.

as a 20+ year DOS user you should know that

a) CONFIG.SYS
b) AUTOEXEC.BAT
C) a more detailed error report of what you are doing and what the
error looks like are necessary to even start advising.


either a+b+c or simply go away.

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] VIA C7-M processor

2022-11-27 Thread Nik
Thanks Eric,
I bought this machine on the internet for €10, hardly used.
I will try the configuration options in the JE driver.

Besides, I'm a dos user for 20-25 years, mostly DR-DOS.
I have a compaq contura, 486 dx, 16mb, 100mhz, modified win311 for
workgroups, pretty fast.

Groet Nik


Op zo 27 nov. 2022 om 15:31 schreef Eric Auer :

>
> Hoi Nik,
>
> > Hello, I'm new to freedos, I have installed this on a nice small laptop,
> a
> > HP 2133 with VIA C7-M processor. It works nice, but the 386 memory
> manager
> > crashes. I do not know how to solve this. Vriendelijke groet, Nik Kuster
>
> That depends on WHICH manager in which version you use ;-)
>
> Please be more specific about your installation. I think
> it should be sufficient to load some type of HIMEM, such
> as HIMEM or XMGR. There also are FDXXMS and exotic HIMEM
> versions to support > 4 GB RAM with modified apps/drivers.
>
> If you are using JEMMEX or JEMM386, you could try to use
> the other if one of them crashes for you. Also make sure
> to read the documentation, the EMM drivers have lots of
> command line options which can help you to work around
> incompatibilities with specific systems.
>
> Actually the 386MAX driver source code (and DPMIONE DPMI
> host, 386SWAT debugger and QLINK linker) has been made
> open source by the author a while ago, but I do not know
> whether binaries are available as well? Because you may
> use 386MAX instead of JEMM386, if you like to try that:
>
> https://github.com/sudleyplace/
>
> One problem can be that your BIOS reports the usable memory
> areas in some inconsistent way or just fails to report some
> un-usable area at all. In that case, you can use config
> options of the JE... drivers to force them to rely on one
> interface which works, ignoring others.
>
> Similarily, you can force them to exclude some areas, use
> specific methods for A20 manipulation (that is a thing you
> may also want to check if HIMEM style drivers crash).
>
> Likewise, you could tell the driver to treat your VIA C7
> as a 486DX instead of as Pentium class CPU, in case some
> Pentium feature of the C7 needs to be used in a special
> brand specific way which the driver does not know about?
>
> That 9 inch ultra portable HP laptop looks cool :-)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_2133_Mini-Note_PC
>
> Groetjes, Eric
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] VIA C7-M processor

2022-11-27 Thread Eric Auer



Hoi Nik,


Hello, I'm new to freedos, I have installed this on a nice small laptop, a
HP 2133 with VIA C7-M processor. It works nice, but the 386 memory manager
crashes. I do not know how to solve this. Vriendelijke groet, Nik Kuster


That depends on WHICH manager in which version you use ;-)

Please be more specific about your installation. I think
it should be sufficient to load some type of HIMEM, such
as HIMEM or XMGR. There also are FDXXMS and exotic HIMEM
versions to support > 4 GB RAM with modified apps/drivers.

If you are using JEMMEX or JEMM386, you could try to use
the other if one of them crashes for you. Also make sure
to read the documentation, the EMM drivers have lots of
command line options which can help you to work around
incompatibilities with specific systems.

Actually the 386MAX driver source code (and DPMIONE DPMI
host, 386SWAT debugger and QLINK linker) has been made
open source by the author a while ago, but I do not know
whether binaries are available as well? Because you may
use 386MAX instead of JEMM386, if you like to try that:

https://github.com/sudleyplace/

One problem can be that your BIOS reports the usable memory
areas in some inconsistent way or just fails to report some
un-usable area at all. In that case, you can use config
options of the JE... drivers to force them to rely on one
interface which works, ignoring others.

Similarily, you can force them to exclude some areas, use
specific methods for A20 manipulation (that is a thing you
may also want to check if HIMEM style drivers crash).

Likewise, you could tell the driver to treat your VIA C7
as a 486DX instead of as Pentium class CPU, in case some
Pentium feature of the C7 needs to be used in a special
brand specific way which the driver does not know about?

That 9 inch ultra portable HP laptop looks cool :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_2133_Mini-Note_PC

Groetjes, Eric




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