Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
Actually if the CPU is too fast in DOS the software cannot program the radio so most ham radio operator's look for slow CPU's (old computers) and load DOS as the sole operating system this is true especially for older Motorola radio's - Johnny KD5LWU Cortez, CO On 8/4/2014 6:14 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Corbin Davenport > wrote: >> If it's radio equipment that the software manages, it might not run in the >> Windows command line or DOSBox. It probably needs direct access to the >> hardware, which I don't think either provide. > Multitasking OSes don't provide underlying access to the hardware of > the computer they are running on, because the app can't assume it's > the only thing running with full control of the machine. > > But radio equipment will be seen as an attached peripheral, and there > shouldn't be any problem about a DOS app in a VM or an emulator > communicating with it. > __ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > > -- > Infragistics Professional > Build stunning WinForms apps today! > Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. > Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Corbin Davenport wrote: > > If it's radio equipment that the software manages, it might not run in the > Windows command line or DOSBox. It probably needs direct access to the > hardware, which I don't think either provide. Multitasking OSes don't provide underlying access to the hardware of the computer they are running on, because the app can't assume it's the only thing running with full control of the machine. But radio equipment will be seen as an attached peripheral, and there shouldn't be any problem about a DOS app in a VM or an emulator communicating with it. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
If it's radio equipment that the software manages, it might not run in the Windows command line or DOSBox. It probably needs direct access to the hardware, which I don't think either provide. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:42 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Jim Haynes wrote: > > I'm not using it yet, but want to because of some amateur radio software > > that was written to run in DOS and won't run in Windows. > > Which ones? I have several friends who are hams. One is a Linux > user, and the other is in a pure Windows environment. They don't seem > to have problems. > > And depending on the DOS software, it will run under Windows. If you > use 32 bit Windows, like XP or (I believe) 32 bit Win7, 15 bit apps > are supported, and many DOS programs will run in a console solution > through NTVDM. On 64 bit Windows, you ca run DOS under a virtual > machine, or try an emulator like DOSEmu or DOSBOX, which were wrttten > to allow DOS games to run, but can be used for other DOS applications. > > > jhhaynes at earthlink dot net > __ > Dennis > > > -- > Infragistics Professional > Build stunning WinForms apps today! > Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. > Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Jim Haynes wrote: > I'm not using it yet, but want to because of some amateur radio software > that was written to run in DOS and won't run in Windows. Which ones? I have several friends who are hams. One is a Linux user, and the other is in a pure Windows environment. They don't seem to have problems. And depending on the DOS software, it will run under Windows. If you use 32 bit Windows, like XP or (I believe) 32 bit Win7, 15 bit apps are supported, and many DOS programs will run in a console solution through NTVDM. On 64 bit Windows, you ca run DOS under a virtual machine, or try an emulator like DOSEmu or DOSBOX, which were wrttten to allow DOS games to run, but can be used for other DOS applications. > jhhaynes at earthlink dot net __ Dennis -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
For almost 30 years I have written various computer-based tests for studies in psychology and related fields. These required timing accuracy comparable to the traditional electromechanical testing devices, so that DOS (initially AppleDOS and then PC-DOS) was the operating system of choice. Essentially, I could not afford to have the OS attending to the many functions that I did not need when I wanted it to be recording data. I turned to FreeDOS when PCs running MS-DOS were becoming uncommon and I needed to package the operating system with the tests. I switched from Borland Turbo C to Watcom C a few years ago. It is getting more difficult to have a "plug-in" DOS environment that can just boot up to run tests on the variety of PCs out there and I now rely on Tcl-Tk under Linux whenever I can. Jim On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:08:21 PM Jaroslav Beran wrote: > Why are you using FreeDOS? > > Personally I have three main reasons for which I stay with FreeDOS: > >1. > >I like Borland Turbo products and with FreeDOS I can run them in natural >environment. (BTW I was very pleasured when I found this location >http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/borland/) >2. > >FreeDOS is open and it is delivered with sources. It is interesting to >see them and to play with them. >3. > >There is quite fine community around the project ;-) > > May be it could be interesting to have small discussion about motivation of > users and see who FD users are. > > > Jarda -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
I'm not using it yet, but want to because of some amateur radio software that was written to run in DOS and won't run in Windows. jhhaynes at earthlink dot net -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why are you using FreeDOS?
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Jaroslav Beran wrote: > Why are you using FreeDOS? I started using PCs in the days when the original IBM-PC with 4.77mhz Intel 8088 processor, CGA graphics, 256-640K of RAM and dual 360K full height 5.25" floppy drives was first appearing on corporate desktops, usually as an engine to run Lotus 1,2,3, with a secondary usage of running WordStar to do word processing. I had fun tinkering back then, figuring out how to get the best performance out of limited hardware. FreeDOS is an opportunity to dust off unused skills and play. I spend most of my time these days in Windows and Linux, and most of what I do simply can't be done under DOS. The machine FreeDOS lives on multi-boots Windows and a couple of flavors of Linux (and is itself an experiment to see what sort of results I can coax out of low-end hardware without throwing money at it.) FreeDOS is a hobby I do for fun, played with when I have a few spare minutes. I don't try to use DOS on a day-to-days to do the things I normally do on a computer. It might be *possible* to do some of them, but would involve limitations and be more trouble than the effort was worth. It's why my attitude in some discussions here is "DOS is the wrong tool for that job. Use the right one." > Jarda __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
