Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-06-01 Thread Christian Masloch
 Now that mTCP is Free Software, I think the next version of FreeDOS
 should focus on getting basic networking abilities.

 Well, relatively free.  A certain group of people are aghast that I used
 GPL v3 - apparently that is not free enough for them.  I'm getting a
 good laugh out of that conversation though.

Should you refer to me here (I highly doubt you do not) then please ensure  
not to misrepresent my opinion. I am not aghast at your choice of  
license. Though as has been stated it is true that personally I would have  
_preferred_ a license other than the GPL. It is obviously your choice. As  
I pointed out I appreciate your source code release nonetheless.

If you want to further express your amusement at me please keep that to  
our forum. I will not reply to other posts about that on this mailing list.

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Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-06-01 Thread mbbrutman
Quoting Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de:

 Now that mTCP is Free Software, I think the next version of FreeDOS
 should focus on getting basic networking abilities.

 Well, relatively free.  A certain group of people are aghast that I used
 GPL v3 - apparently that is not free enough for them.  I'm getting a
 good laugh out of that conversation though.

 Should you refer to me here (I highly doubt you do not) then please ensure
 not to misrepresent my opinion. I am not aghast at your choice of
 license. Though as has been stated it is true that personally I would have
 _preferred_ a license other than the GPL. It is obviously your choice. As
 I pointed out I appreciate your source code release nonetheless.

 If you want to further express your amusement at me please keep that to
 our forum. I will not reply to other posts about that on this mailing list.

Actually, I was referring to you.

And just as you pointed out that you have the right to infer whatever  
you want to infer on that forum, I am exercising my right to share my  
amusement where I choose to share it.

Have a good day ...


Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-06-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 1-6-2011 18:25, mbbrut...@brutman.com schreef:

 Well, relatively free.  A certain group of people are aghast that I used
 GPL v3 - apparently that is not free enough for them.  I'm getting a
 good laugh out of that conversation though.


I've read that discussion and liked it, in my opinion looks nothing more 
than a thought experiment along the lines of:
hey thanks for releasing it as GPL3 but have you considered the effects 
of your choice in case somebody (has some software and) wants to do 'X' ? 

People are fine with your choice, they're just creating awareness by 
being difficult about choices, without attacking the choices or the 
person(s) making them.

Welcome to slashdot.org :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-06-01 Thread mbbrutman
Quoting Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl:

 Op 1-6-2011 18:25, mbbrut...@brutman.com schreef:

 Well, relatively free.  A certain group of people are aghast that I used
 GPL v3 - apparently that is not free enough for them.  I'm getting a
 good laugh out of that conversation though.


 I've read that discussion and liked it, in my opinion looks nothing more
 than a thought experiment along the lines of:
 hey thanks for releasing it as GPL3 but have you considered the effects
 of your choice in case somebody (has some software and) wants to do 'X' ? 

 People are fine with your choice, they're just creating awareness by
 being difficult about choices, without attacking the choices or the
 person(s) making them.

 Welcome to slashdot.org :)

Sometimes it is hard to tell the motivation.  I would have preferred  
that the license discussion not be attached to the announcement of one  
particular project and instead treated as a different/new thread of  
discussion.  That removes any doubts.  A more appropriate use of the  
announcement thread would have been to discuss the project goals or  
technical questions.

However, I agree that it is time to move on.  We definitely don't want  
this devolving any further ..


Regards,
Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-05-25 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi Michael,

thanks a lot! I tried the ftpsrv app with Filezilla and it works much 
better now (I missed the update before, so maybe this is not really 
news).

Directory browsing with Filezilla as FTP client and mTCP ftpsrv as 
server seems to be no problem anymore. Thanks!

And I especially like the precise logging of events to the screen of 
the DOS machine. I miss this in WATT32 ftpsrv32.

Unfortunately there still seem to be some issues of mTCP ftpsrv with 
Filezilla:

1. When I try to copy a file with a long filename in Filezilla to the 
FreeDOS machine mTCP ftpsrv will not store it. Instead it responds 
with 550 Bad path. Filezilla translates this to Critical error. In 
comparison, WATT32 ftpsrv32 stores it anyway and lets FreeDOS cut the 
name.

2. Another behaviour I saw: Successfully copied files are sometimes 
not listed automatically in the right window with the files on the 
server in Filezilla. So sometimes I have to push the refresh button.

3. Filezilla seems to show a random date of the files I copied to the 
server (neither the original date nor the actual one). If I stop the 
server and check them in FreeDOS the copied files have the actual date.

4. If I try to copy a file that already exists on the server, ftpsrv 
responds with 553 File exists already which causes Filezilla to stop 
the transfer and say Critical error. By default Filezilla should 
open its dialogue window which asks if I want to overwrite, rename or 
keep the duplicate on the server.

Sorry to report this. Most of these bugs may relate more to Filezilla 
than to your FTP server. I work with Filezilla 3.3.1 in Ubuntu 10.04 
LTS and use freedos in Virtualbox.

BTW I have updated the mtcp files in the virtualbox image at
http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/

:-)

thanks again, regards
Ulrich Hansen




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Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-05-21 Thread Single Stage to Orbit
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 22:39 -0500, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
 Come and get it! http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/

Duly grabbed, now I'm about to upgrade my mTCP installation :)
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