Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Otavio, I understand the lack of a proper release cycle is an issue, but to solve this I really need the help of the community. We've got a lot of people doing an amazing job fixing bugs and backporting fixes to the stable-1.1 branch. The problem is that working on the release and fixing bugs

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Nik Twerdochlib
So would it be possible (assuming it is not already done) to define some roles with responsibilities that need be filled? Then perhaps using that information ask for volunteers? I would suggest defining these roles in a fashion that would allow the community participants to commit to a

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Nik, Thank you for your offer! Regarding your work on smartcard, I'm sorry I didn't find the time to take a closer look at it, but please keep doing what you're doing :) As for avoiding asking someone to commit to a non-paying second job, that's pretty much always been the issue for community

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Bernhard Miklautz
Hi Otavio, as Marc-Andre already said we are short on time and man power. Since the last release a lot of new features and clients where added, the code base and functionality is growing. One really big and hard problem we face is the complexity of RDP. It ain't an easy job to test all

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Bernhard, First I'd like to make clear it is not a criticism per si, but a constructive critic. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Bernhard Miklautz bmikla...@thinstuff.at wrote: as Marc-Andre already said we are short on time and man power. Since the last release a lot of new features and

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Otavio, I understand that this is constructive criticism, the issue is mostly with the fact that one cannot realistically do what you suggest. Freezing master is not an option, which is why we've made a stabilization branch: the code there is simply stabilized over time with no breaking

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Marc-André Moreau marcandre.mor...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that this is constructive criticism, the issue is mostly with the fact that one cannot realistically do what you suggest. Freezing master is not an option, which is why we've made a stabilization

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Otavio, You may not realize it, but the vast majority of the work I'm doing for customers is upstream from the start, and this include bug fixes, performance improvements, architectural fixes. The problem I think you have is the features you care mostly about (serial, parallel, smartcard) are

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Marc-André Moreau
Hi Otavio, All of this being said, I actually do care about fixing serial, parallel and smartcard. I'm quite happy to see Thinstuff's been putting some resources on smartcard and serial recently, and that Nik who responded earlier in this thread is now on IRC, ready to help. I think the most

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Marc-Andre, On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Marc-André Moreau marcandre.mor...@gmail.com wrote: All of this being said, I actually do care about fixing serial, parallel and smartcard. I'm quite happy to see Thinstuff's been putting some resources on smartcard and serial recently, and

Re: [Freerdp-devel] Stable release

2013-10-22 Thread Jay Sorg
I would like to express my concern too over the stability of FreeRDP. It was much better a year ago. I'm concerned / confused about the future of FreeRDP. It seems like there is too many restructuring / refactoring of the source code that add no value. All the documentation on