Re: [Freesurfer] Vertex wise analysis and area/pial area/volume interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread S.E. Mous
Dear FreeSurfers, I didn't notice a resolution to this thread. I'm experiencing the same 'problem'; When I run Qdec and perform a Monte Carlo correction of 1.3, the terminal window output gives me the following clusters and values (during the MC correction I used the 'abs' option): #

[Freesurfer] trac-all -bedp post processing e-mail notification

2012-11-20 Thread Loi
Hello FreeSurfer experts, I am wondering if it is possible to run trac-all -bedp without generating the email notification at the end of the post-processing stage? After submitting a long list of -bedp jobs to the local cluster, I received a message from our IT center reporting being spammed by

[Freesurfer] tksurfer crashes

2012-11-20 Thread Righart, Ruthger Dr.
Dear Freesurfer experts, I have a problem with Tksurfer. Whereas this worked previously fine it suddenly crashes every time I try to start it. This happens with every subject or fsaverage. A similar problem was reported before with similar terminal output but unfortunately I could not find a

Re: [Freesurfer] tksurfer crashes

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Ruthger we need a lot more info. What version are you running? On what hardware and software platform? Does it crash with different datasets? With bert? How much RAM do you have? cheers Bruce On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Righart, Ruthger Dr. wrote: Dear Freesurfer experts, I have a problem

Re: [Freesurfer] contrast matrix

2012-11-20 Thread xiangbo_2010
Dear doug Thank you for your reply! +AOM -BOM -APM -BPM00000 +AOM -BOM00 -AQM +BQM000 +AOM0 -APM000 -COM +CPM0 +AOM000

Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all -bedp post processing e-mail notification

2012-11-20 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Joy-Loi, You can edit the bedpostx script (make sure you figure out which version of that script trac-all is calling). Find this line and delete the @fmrib.ox.ac.uk part: mailto=`whoami`@fmrib.ox.ac.uk Hope this helps, a.y On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Loi wrote: Hello FreeSurfer

[Freesurfer] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6?

2012-11-20 Thread Brain Apprentice
Hi Surfers, I was wondering if FreeSurfer v5.1.0 (CentOS 4 x86 (64b)) or V5.X will work on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6? The reason I ask is that the supercomputer at Brigham Young University is going through a major overhaul: changing the OS, adding more nodes, and adding more storage. I am just

Re: [Freesurfer] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6?

2012-11-20 Thread Watson, Christopher
I've had no problems with it. From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Brain Apprentice [bapprent...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:53 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject:

[Freesurfer] flip brain

2012-11-20 Thread Chen, Xiaoyan
Dear Freesurfer experts, I have a general question regarding data analysis. Our group has collected data from patients with OA, some of them received treatment on their left leg, some of them on their right leg. We would like to flip the brain for the people

Re: [Freesurfer] flip brain

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Helen, I would follow these steps http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi this describes the interhemispheric analysis assuming that you want to study asymmetry. This is not quite your application, but I think it will work well for it. In general, you don't want to simply left-right

Re: [Freesurfer] contrast matrix

2012-11-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
Bo, Doug asked me to chime in on your issue. Here are some points that you (and others) will hopefully find useful. (1) Inferences are two-step process. First, you create and estimate the design matrix. Every column in the design matrix accounts can account for some of the variance in the data.

Re: [Freesurfer] contrast matrix

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yes, that -BPM should be +BPM, sorry about that. It will not change the p-values if you multiply by 0.5 or not. It will change the size of the contrast. Most people don't report this number, especially for an F-test, so I would not worry about it. doug On 11/20/2012 09:17 AM, xiangbo_2010

Re: [Freesurfer] contrast matrix

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Thanks Donald. Is this the standard way to do this? I had used 8 rows instead of 4 with the difference being that 8 rows gives you an opportunity to look for an effect in males OR females. If there is an effect in both males and females but the effects go in opposite directions, then the 4 row

Re: [Freesurfer] vertex analysis in a ROI

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 11/19/2012 12:28 PM, angela.fav...@unipd.it wrote: Dear list, I am quite new in the use of freesurfer and I have two doubts. 1. I am studying the visual areas of the brain, but I do not know how to perform a vertex analysis within a ROI. I already know how to obtain thickness data on a

[Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Winter, Warren
Hi all, Back in January and October Bruce mentioned that he had under development some scripts designed to utilize T2-SPACE images for better pial surface reconstruction in the presence of dura -- I was just wondering if any of that is ready for trial? Thanks! Warren -- Warren Winter

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
It sounds like you need a conjunction to show that P4 P1 AND P1 C Does that make sense? If so, then run the analysis as Donald suggests, creating contrast matrices for the above contrasts. Then run mri_concat --conjunct p1gtc/sig.mgh p4gtp1/sig.mgh --o conjunction.mgh doug On 11/19/2012

Re: [Freesurfer] fieldsign-sess problem in retinotopy

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Wei, do you have both polar and eccentricity? It looks like you only have polar. doug On 11/19/2012 01:39 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote: Please find the Xtmp.mat in the attachment.Thank you, Doug. Best Wei Can you send me the Xtmp.mat file? dloug On 11/16/2012 01:01 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote:

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Warren yes, it will be part of the upcoming 5.2 release, hopefully in Dec. It will use either a FLAIR or T2 (ideally T2-SPACE for either one) cheers Bruce On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Winter, Warren wrote: Hi all, Back in January and October Bruce mentioned that he had under development some

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Mahinda Yogarajah y.mahi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donald and Doug, Thanks for advice. Can I be a little bit clearer as I suspect I need a little more guidance. When comparing controls (gp c) and whole patient group (gp p) I see interesting differences in

Re: [Freesurfer] contrast matrix

2012-11-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Thanks Donald. Is this the standard way to do this? I had used 8 rows instead of 4 with the difference being that 8 rows gives you an opportunity to look for an effect in males OR females. Yes. Having 8 rows

Re: [Freesurfer] Vertex wise analysis and area/pial area/volume interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
The difference is that the columns are different. The Max in the first table refers to the maximum statistic found in the ROI. The Max in the 2nd table is not actually a maximum. It is just the -log10(p) of the cluster. This corresponds to the CWP value in the first table (eg, cluster 4 has a

Re: [Freesurfer] the positions of white/pial surfaces and the brain.mgz

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Longchuan, mris_fill create a volume with a different geometry than orig.mgz (though it is in the same space). What do you want to do exactly? Map the output of mris_fill into the DTI space? The transform from the output of mris_fill to orig.mgz is easy to obtain: tkregister2 --noedit

[Freesurfer] bbregister

2012-11-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
Doug, I received this question from a colleague, Exactly which segmentation file from recon -all is being used in the bbregister command? Thanks, Donald ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Donald, It does not use any of the segmentations. In fact, it does not use any of the anatomical volumes. It only uses the surfaces. doug On 11/20/2012 03:19 PM, MCLAREN, Donald wrote: Doug, I received this question from a colleague, Exactly which segmentation file from recon -all is

Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister

2012-11-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
Which surfaces does it use? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Donald, It does not use any of the segmentations. In fact, it does not use any of the anatomical volumes. It only uses the surfaces. doug On 11/20/2012 03:19 PM, MCLAREN, Donald

Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
It uses the white, and it also uses the thickness measures. On 11/20/2012 03:23 PM, MCLAREN, Donald wrote: Which surfaces does it use? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Donald, It does not use any of the segmentations. In fact, it does not

[Freesurfer] Training Comparison

2012-11-20 Thread Ryan
Hello all, I'm doing a training comparison (training type A vs. type B), and I created thickness difference files (the rate files from the long_mris_slopes command) for each subject. How can I conduct an FSGD analysis with these thickness difference files? I tried replacing all of the

Re: [Freesurfer] bbregister

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
p.s. and may use the pial in the future On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Douglas N Greve wrote: It uses the white, and it also uses the thickness measures. On 11/20/2012 03:23 PM, MCLAREN, Donald wrote: Which surfaces does it use? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Douglas N Greve

Re: [Freesurfer] error in analyze command failed: mri_concat

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
I don't think it should be as long as you are consistent. It might be worth trying to track down this problem just so that you don't have to mix versions. doug On 11/20/2012 03:37 PM, Berg, S.F. van den wrote: Hi Doug, Thanks for respons. We also install the dev version of freesurfer. We

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Watson, Christopher
Hi Bruce, So would you recommend acquiring a T2 in addition to an (ME)MPRAGE/SPGR? i.e. is it worth squeezing another acquisition into a protocol? Chris From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Yes, definitely. The t2-space flair is a big help On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Watson, Christopher christopher.wat...@childrens.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Bruce, So would you recommend acquiring a T2 in addition to an (ME)MPRAGE/SPGR? i.e. is it worth squeezing another acquisition into a

Re: [Freesurfer] the positions of white/pial surfaces and the brain.mgz

2012-11-20 Thread Longchuan Li
Hi, Doug Thank you very much for the information. What I want to do is to use the white and pial surfaces in the FreeSurfer space as the seeds for surface-based tractography implemented in FSL. In order to do that, I need a transformation between the white matter surface and diffusion MR data.

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Matt Glasser
If you get an MPRAGE and T2-SPACE you can make myelin maps too. FreeSurfer's final surface placement benefits a lot from high resolution images (less than 1mm) and you can still get good SNR with when you use 32-channel coils. Peace, Matt. On 11/20/12 4:41 PM, Bruce Fischl

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Satrajit Ghosh
hi matt: could you generate the myelin maps say from two flash scans at different flip angles? bruce: if one had a choice between an mprage + t2 flair and 2 flash scans at 5/20 flip angles, what would be your recommendation? cheers, satra On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Matt Glasser

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Matt Glasser
If you make a T1 map you can use that to look at differences in myelin content, but I don't know all of the ways to calculate T1 or if you could get that from only two flip angles. Two images with roughly the same contrast won't work for the ratio method. You need to have opposite contrast.

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Satra the T1 maps accomplish much of what the ratio does - it gets rid of receive bias effects. I'm not really sure which is better. They are about the same amount of scan time. The advantage of including the flair inversion pulse in the T2 space is that it nulls fluid and lets

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Matt Glasser
Hi Bruce, Can you get good FLAIRs at 0.7mm isotropic? The fluid thing makes sense for surface reconstruction, but I think it would mess up myelin maps if someone also wanted to do that using the ratio method. If the CSF is now dark and you divide the dark CSF in the T1w with dark CSF in the

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, that's probably true. The FLAIR we use is just a T2-SPACE scan with an inversion pulse to put CSF at the null point, so if you can get T2-space at .7 you should be able to get FLAIR (although you do burn some SNR with the inversion) On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Matt Glasser wrote: Hi Bruce,

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
sure. Note that whichever you do it's absolutely critical to bandwidth and readout match them so there is no differential distortion between the contrast types Bruce On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Satrajit Ghosh wrote: thanks matt and bruce. this is very helpful. cheers, satra On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Matt Glasser
You can correct the readout distortion with a field map. The main residual is just signal loss in the gradient echo image. Peace, Matt. On 11/20/12 7:22 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: sure. Note that whichever you do it's absolutely critical to bandwidth and readout match

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Matt I doubt you could accurately correct the 0.25mm distortions that would be widespread, not to mention the extra interpolation. Much better to distortion match the acquisitions Bruce On Nov 20, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com wrote: You can correct the readout

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Harms
Hi Bruce, How are you matching the BW for T2-SPACE vs. MPRAGE -- the former typically has a BW around 700+ Hz/Px, while the latter is typically around 200 Hz/Px. thanks, -MH -- Michael Harms, Ph.D. --- Conte Center for the Neuroscience

Re: [Freesurfer] Tool for incorporating T2-SPACE data in pial surface recons?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
We use Andre's multiecho mprage On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Michael Harms mha...@conte.wustl.edu wrote: Hi Bruce, How are you matching the BW for T2-SPACE vs. MPRAGE -- the former typically has a BW around 700+ Hz/Px, while the latter is typically around 200 Hz/Px. thanks, -MH