Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-06-09 Thread David Rowe
didn't improve anything. Hope to find a real station on air soon. Regards Gerhard OE3GBB -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Rowe [mailto:da...@rowetel.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 10:15 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comp

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-05-22 Thread David Rowe
Gerhard OE3GBB -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Rowe [mailto:da...@rowetel.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 10:15 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests Hi Alan, Yes finding FreeDV activity (especially in VK) can be a challenge,

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-05-22 Thread gerhard
l.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 10:15 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests Hi Alan, Yes finding FreeDV activity (especially in VK) can be a challenge, hopefully this will change as FreeDV becomes more competitive wit

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-05-15 Thread David Rowe
2018 01:42 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison Hi David fair enough here is some good and reasonable recent work by one of your own. http://search.ror.unisa.edu.au/record/UNISA_ALMA11140739050001831/media/digita l/open/9916110811

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-05-15 Thread Alan Beard
> I think that I earned a ticket for my point of view. > > 73, Helmut, DC6NY > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: glen english > Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 01:42 > An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net > Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs S

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-07 Thread Helmut Oeller
ai 2018 01:42 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison Hi David fair enough here is some good and reasonable recent work by one of your own. http://search.ror.unisa.edu.au/record/UNISA_ALMA11140739050001831/media/digital/open/991611081

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-07 Thread Stuart Longland
On 07/05/18 15:26, Alan Beard wrote: > *One point I see as missed. *We HAMs are not allowed encryption Not strictly true… in a bona-fide emergency or when controlling a remote automatic station, the ACMA rules permit it. (ACMA LCD section 8 3A; pages 9 and 10 of http://www.wia.org.au/licenses/ass

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread Alan Beard
Hi David and Glen, > On 07/05/18 07:45, glen english wrote:  > > SSB sometimes wins because the brain picks up the slack. like with a 0.5  > > second fade.  On listening to FreeDV 700D and DMR, one's brain recognises this "new" accent and processes accordingly. I don't think you can say, defi

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread glen english
Hi David fair enough here is some good and reasonable recent work by one of your own. http://search.ror.unisa.edu.au/record/UNISA_ALMA11140739050001831/media/digital/open/9916110811201831/12140739040001831/13140739030001831/pdf Maybe build into freeDV some sort of recording to disk and FTP

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread David Rowe
The 700D waveform is designed for subset of those paths. As part of the testing I'd like to crowd source some samples of where it works and were it doesn't. Long term - if the average SNR is there, a waveform can be designed to pass DV over it. Eventually. DV over HF is a tough problem, an

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread glen english
SSB sometimes wins because the brain picks up the slack. like with a 0.5 second fade. In my opinion, for HF paths, to be broadly useful , voice DV modes need to pass an HF fading simulator, targeted at vertical incidence work, and bear in mind, that the channel profiles are quite different for

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread Helmut Oeller
Hi David, no problem with your point of view. The manhood needs guys with visions. Good luck. 73, Helmut, DC6NY -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Rowe Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 21:38 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread David Rowe
but I wonder if the overall intelligibility has improved? Cheers, David 73, Helmut, DC6NY -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Rowe Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 15:31 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison Hi Helmut, Coul

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread Helmut Oeller
wz/Weak_no_nr_yes_nr2.mp3?dl=0 73, Helmut, DC6NY -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Rowe Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 15:31 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison Hi Helmut, Could you pls process the analog parts of Mark's

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread David Rowe
Hi Helmut, Could you pls process the analog parts of Mark's sample using the HPSDRs noise reduction algorithms and post the results here for comparison? Another gentleman tried the NR2 algorithm last year: https://www.rowetel.com/?p=5472#comment-80095 However the NR2 algorithm at that time

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison

2018-05-06 Thread Helmut Oeller
Thanks Mark! This result would be impressive, if reproducable. We refer to our tests with 700C together with innovative HPSDRs using high efficient noise reduction algorithms. As you see, we trust in digital solutions, where we can detect possible improvement. 73, Helmut, DC6NY Von: M