Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-03 Thread Robert Holmes
http://xkcd.org/829/ On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Miles Parker milespar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah -- staying out of the name the pill controversy ;) -- one neat little tidbit in the I'm always amazed by how little I know and how little I've thought about what I do know category. We think

Re: [FRIAM] Neat piece of Net art

2010-12-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
I t was sad for me -- My childhood home(s) in Los Alamos burned down in the Cerro Grande fire of 2000. The video shows a wasteland of burned forest around where my home used to be. --Doug On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.comwrote:

[FRIAM] mono lake discussion

2010-12-03 Thread peggy miller
Anyone hear of how the microorganism is doing besides that it is alive and using arsenic as a building block? Does it die really quickly? Does it shed parts of its body on regular basis? Anything like that? -- Peggy Miller, owner/OEO Highland Winds Shop is at 1520 S. 7th St. W. (Just west of

Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
I would have thought that FRIAM had already suffiently proven that life can exist in a toxic environment... --Doug On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.comwrote: http://xkcd.org/829/ On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Miles Parker milespar...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-03 Thread Russ Abbott
!!! * -- Russ * On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: I would have thought that FRIAM had already suffiently proven that life can exist in a toxic environment... --Doug On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.comwrote:

Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-03 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russ Abbott wrote circa 10-12-02 08:14 PM: Why so much defensiveness? I don't think anyone was being defensive. Personally, I was just very surprised by the question. Sorry if my answer was inadequate. On a tangent, however, I found this article interesting: Citizens Against Peer Review

Re: [FRIAM] Parsing the Bard

2010-12-03 Thread James Steiner
The machine translation story I've heard is: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak, after a round trip from English to Russian and back, became The vodka is good, but the meat is spoiled. ~~James On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.com wrote: And Gamlet is

Re: [FRIAM] mono lake discussion

2010-12-03 Thread Grant Holland
Front page article in the NYT today has some discussion. These microbes still seem to prefer phosphorous, but have been able to substitue arsenic for phosphorous atoms in some molecules - even in certain DNA nucleotides. However, the researchers evidently haven't yet demonstrated that these

Re: [FRIAM] Neat piece of Net art

2010-12-03 Thread Robert Holmes
I experienced a similar emotion Doug: my childhood home used to be a isolated Victorian house surrounded by fields and woodland. Now the fields are gone and it's surrounded by cookie-cutter suburban houses. -- R On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: I t was

Re: [FRIAM] Parsing the Bard

2010-12-03 Thread Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky
Absolutely Wonderful James, After struggling with Wittgenstein I wondered what he would have made of the two versions. I suspect the words were translated but the sense was lost. And the mistake is worthy of preservation. I swear that could have come directly from the pen of Bulgakov. Befitting

Re: [FRIAM] NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical

2010-12-03 Thread Russ Abbott
I his 1944 What is Life http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_is_Life%3F, Schrödinger identifies a fundamental characteristic of living beings as being able to retain a relatively lower level of entropy by extracting energy from the environment. Since As compounds are so much less stable than P

[FRIAM] time, the brain, the self

2010-12-03 Thread Victoria Hughes
In pulling together a very short talk for the Notions of Time event tomorrow, I came across this section of text, from the introduction to a paper The experience of time: neural mechanisms and the interplay of emotion, cognition and embodiment by Marc Wittmann, PhD Psychology, UC San Diego.