And how, dear mice, do you propose to bell the cat?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote:
That's exactly Nick's point. He says we should make it a cost to the
polluter.
-- Russ Abbott
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Professor, Computer
Of course, that's the whole issue. Do we let faceless bureaucrats figure
these things out and impose burdensome regulations? Or do we let gangs of
rapacious attorneys sue for ruinous damages after the fact? Or is there
another way to force consideration of public good into decisions about
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote:
Of course, that's the whole issue. Do we let faceless bureaucrats figure
these things out and impose burdensome regulations?
Yes, consistently.
Or do we let gangs of rapacious attorneys sue for ruinous damages after the
Thanks, Roger. Well distilled. As to your main question, I think it's a
control system problem. Somehow the thermostat (the board room) needs to be
made sensitive to the temperature (the pollution.) Friam would seem to be
really well poised to think about this issue. But I think we need a
Geeze, Nick.
You can't *make* people do the right thing. People have to want to do the
right thing. People don't want to do the right thing. (Speaking in
majority terms now, minority exceptions don't count). Things won't change
until people change. When will that be? Not in our lifetime,
What the majority of people do IS the right thing. Wisdom of crowds and so on.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote:
Geeze, Nick.
You can't make people do the right thing. People have to want to do the
right thing. People don't want to do the right
In the absence of a functioning moral compass, I suppose this is a workable
definition.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote:
What the majority of people do IS the right thing. Wisdom of crowds and so
on.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Douglas Roberts
Panic over intangibles is the right thing? Promise?
On 3/29/11 11:30 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
In the absence of a functioning moral compass, I suppose this is a
workable definition.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com
mailto:sroy...@gmail.com wrote:
What
Good point, Carl. I really should have said, In the absence of a
functioning moral compass, and a modicum of intelligence...
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com wrote:
Panic over intangibles is the right thing? Promise?
On 3/29/11 11:30 AM, Douglas Roberts
Wow! So when a majority of white southerners showed up in their Sunday
finest to watch the weekly lynchings, that was the right thing?
I guess you mean right in some other sense.
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(Somehow an earlier message of mine got lost in cyberspace.)
I said that you *can* force people to do the right thing, and used the
civil rights movement as an example. I often used to hear You can't
legislate morality which is true, but you can legislate behavior. If
you make the
Douglas Roberts wrote at 03/29/2011 09:33 AM:
People don't want to do the right thing.
There is no evidence for this conclusion.
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Whatever you say, Glen.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:22 PM, glen e. p. ropella
g...@tempusdictum.comwrote:
Douglas Roberts wrote at 03/29/2011 09:33 AM:
People don't want to do the right thing.
There is no evidence for this conclusion.
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