Re: [FRIAM] The US has no idea how to manage all the testing data it’s collecting

Here’s one established program. There are at least a dozen biobank efforts in the US, but it could be so much more if there was a federal government worthy of our trust. Fro

[FRIAM] The US has no idea how to manage all the testing data it’s collecting

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/07/1001311/how-to-manage-coronavirus-testing-data-collection-management-reporting-state-health-departments/ .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p M

Re: [FRIAM] U.S. Space Force

Yesterday they showed "Moonraker" in German TV. Somehow the X-37B reminded me of it because it is an unmanned Space Shuttle. I believe that unmanned drones are in fact that best way to explore the Solar System.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonraker_(film)As a European I don't see a real purpos

[FRIAM] U.S. Space Force

I'd love to hear from the list something about this. https://futurism.com/the-byte/space-force-launch-mysterious-spacecraft?mc_eid=56f5f2fa75&mc_cid=9a6e6e9e3d -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA merlelefk...@gmail.com mobile: (

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For some reason, the link to Gorski's debunking is messed up in that article. I had to go looking for it: https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/05/06/judy-mikovits-pandemic/ You *forced* me to watch Plandemic, too. I'll never get that time back. 8^D On 5/7/20 3:46 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > T

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

This was a nice line in an algorithmic tunnel of unreliable sources from https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/07/1001469/facebook-youtube-plandemic-covid-misinformation/ -- rec -- On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 6:08 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > The long con would be to get a semi-trusted agent as

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

The long con would be to get a semi-trusted agent as a committer. Someone that could appear to be a student or a bland mid-level employee but is just playing that part. Being open source, it would be a simple matter to anonymously clone it and study it for a while, advising their agent on wh

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

Right, https://www.git-scm.com/docs/git-blame - Show what revision and author last modified each line of a file -- rec -- On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:19 PM Jon Zingale wrote: > Roger, > > You say, "It's already happened more than once. People, acting as if > they cared about the code have taken o

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Roger, You say, "It's already happened more than once. People, acting as if they cared about the code have taken over existing projects when the current developer loses interest. Then they modify the code so it does something evil in addition to its original purpose, say stealing bitcoin wallet

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Roger, I am aware they these agents are not interested in fixing the problem. As a high volume participant on Github, I wish to speak with some authority that the actions these agent pursue betray a misunderstanding of git workflow. The goal it seems is to project the facebook/youtube comments mod

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Uh huh, this is what the troll people are after. Having one side of the conversation, their side, instead of a broader conversation about how to best ensure code is correct. It’s just a wedge they can use to claim authority on something while also scoping the terms of the debate. From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

I was working on a large software project at CMU and when I implemented a new algorithm I would implement a couple of unit tests using the data I tested it with. This would take about half an hour. Then I forgot about them. I got compliments for how useful they were in testing new releases of th

[FRIAM] (no subject)

Roger, You say, "It's already happened more than once. People, acting as if they cared about the code have taken over existing projects when the current developer loses interest. Then they modify the code so it does something evil in addition to its original purpose, say stealing bitcoin wallet

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Marcus, I object that, 'People that love unit tests love not understanding the problem they are solving'. Some of us love unit tests and realize that the problem is not solved by them. Jon .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexi

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Roger writes: < With due respect to Marcus, I do think they're trolls, they think that all of reality is one big con game, that the pandemic is a fraud, and that acting like simpletons who believe that unit testing is sacred is the con that they are called upon to play today. > One kind of s

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

> The folks at SFI did a paper a couple of years ago about how snippets > of constitutions have propagated into other constitutions around the > world… > > … Bob > And one wonders what is "beyond psyops" where "deep staters" (illuminati?) so deep they transcend states go about like retroviruses, i

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

The folks at SFI did a paper a couple of years ago about how snippets of constitutions have propagated into other constitutions around the world… … Bob > On May 7, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > Nick - > > I doubt I can do justice to this for you, but will give a try. > > The

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farmsd

Thanks, Steve (Smith). I have learned so very much from this correspondence, when I deserved only to be flamed for allowing myself to be indirectly trolled. This kind of assault on trust reminds me of those emails that used to go around telling people that there was a bad file on their co

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Jon -- I agree, they could work to fix the software problem, but they're not interested in fixing the software problem. I think their intention is to gamergate the corona virus, spreading FUD about expert opinion. With due respect to Marcus, I do think they're trolls, they think that all of real

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Nick - I doubt I can do justice to this for you, but will give a try. The idea(l) behind open-source is two-fold:   1. develop a "commons" of re-useable resources to be shared by all.   This concept really took off with the introduction of Linus Thorvald's Adaptation of BSD Unix to run

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

It's already happened more than once. People, acting as if they cared about the code have taken over existing projects when the current developer loses interest. Then they modify the code so it does something evil in addition to its original purpose, say stealing bitcoin wallet credentials. Other

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Nick writes: < Let’s say I was an evil genius and wanted to introduce evil code into a project on github. What would happen? > Typically the person maintaining the project will require modestly-sized patches that are described one at a time. They will “pull” these changes from the contribut

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Marcus, Thanks for taking my question seriously. I understood what I was talking about even less than I usually do. Let’s say I was an evil genius and wanted to introduce evil code into a project on github. What would happen? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Nick writes: < What exactly IS the policing mechanism in open source. Darwinian? Reputational? Does this HAVE to provoke a crisis of confidence in the general public? Or could it be seen as a heroic thrown-together first step that is now being improved? > They are whining about simple or ab

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Roger, It seems to me that because this is open source software, any individual who wishes to fork the repo and write unit tests can. Doing so would be a kind of verification replicability. That the trolls are attempting to toxify and politicize the very space where the open source community estab

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Dear Wizards, Could somebody take a moment to explain this revelation to the “citizens” on the list, all one of me, so I won’t be completely out of it tomorrow morning at the Zoom meeting? Which of the things I have had faith in is downstream of this corrupt code. I assume this is all ope

[FRIAM] “Sherlock Testing in One Pot.”

New CRISPR-based test for Covid-19 could be a simple, cheap at-home diagnostic, scientists say https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/05/crispr-covid-19-test-could-be-simple-cheap-at-home-diagnostic/ > STOP stands for “Sherlock Testing in One Pot.” It builds on Zhang’s 2017 > CRISPR invention, called

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Sure, whatever. Where are these people when it comes to mechanized program verification? From: Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 5:44 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subje

[FRIAM] Murder hornets invade headlines, not the U.S.

>From on of my almae matres https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2020/05/06/murder-hornets-invade-headlines-not-us --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... . ... FRIAM Applie

[FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

Looks like a concerted effort to discredit the ICL Covid simulation for lack of adequate unit testing, all in a github issue: https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim/issues/165 Oh, of course, retract all policies based on it, too. via https://news.ycombinator.com/ -- rec -- .-. .- -. -.. --- --

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

There was an article on this, I think NYT, I think sometime last week. So some group is currently doing that on some data set. I too would like to see it done more comprehensively and systematically by some group. Probably I saw the article because somebody posted it to this list. Slap me wh