Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

Isn't the so-called Flynn Effect still considered true? Is there more recent data for the U.S. (besides Bush being elected twice) that says otherwise? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

[FRIAM] first of LANL-sponsored series at the Santa Fe Complex, 7pm Tuesday

fyi.. http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/nb.story/story_id/14796 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Can Math Cure Cancer? - Forbes.com

peter wrote: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/1027/074.html Now this is MATH with a purpose Some distributed computing projects related to this.. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/viewResearch.do As a form of `cloud computing' systems, these projects actually distribute th

[FRIAM] Origin of the Domestic Dog [Thomas Leitner]

Hi all, Attached is a phylogenetics talk coming up next at the Santa Fe Complex that may be of interest. Also, I see a schedule of other upcoming talks is available at this URL: http://cnls.lanl.gov/q-bio/seminar-series/index.php/Public_Lectures Cheers, Marcus --- Begin Message --- CNLS

Re: [FRIAM] Rule 2 and Epigensis

Nicholas Thompson wrote: Much of the research that has been done on epigenetic gene regulation has indeed been done on bacteria! Does that mean that it has few implications for our understanding of macro organisms? http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n7/full/5201832a.html http://www.pnas.

Re: [FRIAM] [simulating] Relaxed Selection

Russell Standish wrote: I'm trying a slightly different tack with Tierra, of artificially inducing mass extinctions every now and then. Cool. A limitation of even `advanced' genetic phylogenetic inference techniques is that they are not only ignorant of protein structure (what DNA changes ar

Re: [FRIAM] Relaxed Selection, a b-level posting

Phil Henshaw wrote: We could consider the vast variation in canine breeds and the fact that breeding selection as an extreme form of epigenetics has not apparently altered the species they all belong to. Selection from breeding would mostly be constrained genetics, i.e. a big and a small dog

Re: [FRIAM] Relaxed Selection, a b-level posting

Nicholas Thompson wrote: The metaphor is terrible because the time-scale of oscillations of good and bad times in economics is WAY too short for the reproductive capacity of the species to respond. So the "times" are sort of independent of the reproduction of the species. Perhaps not.. ht

Re: [FRIAM] Uh, oh..

Douglas Roberts wrote: Take a look around you. Like what you see? I'm afraid this is as good as it's going to get, at least according to this guy: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4894696.ece But there's more recombination now, e.g. from the low cost of travel. Anoth

Re: [FRIAM] Mail goggles

Douglas Roberts wrote: /"All that effort solving the math problems on time, just to type "You're a dick" and stagger off to bed."/ Nah, hack up some JavaScript to detect the panel, screen scrape and then fill in the form au

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: We're talking about the government for and by "normal" people who revere safety and convenience (which they misname "freedom"). And in that context, they prefer predictability and a minimum of unforeseen consequences... even to the point that they like and want fascism.

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: This abstraction away from the fully embedded _human_ to idealistic "skill sets" is the problem. It's what leads us to hire "experts" and then remove them from their proper context and place them in positions where they do unimaginable and unforeseen harm (or good). If

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: But you're not talking about management, there. You're talking about execution. You _are_ the best person to determine whether or not you _need_ a tumor removed from your brain (regardless of how much an elitist M.D. might tell you otherwise). If a community doesn't

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: If _you_ can't manage your own mind/body, then nobody else has any hopes of doing it either. But removing a brain tumor is beyond what I could do for myself. I'm also not the best person to build a space shuttle or for that matter solve a city septic system problem

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: My suggestion is that the problem is with the way government accumulates (or aggregates). Ok, like the nature of the legislative process or what is constitutional. E.g. perhaps if state government was a direct, "natural", cumulative consequence (and _only_ a direct

Re: [FRIAM] Willful Ignorance

glen e. p. ropella wrote: As long as we have a single government that governs 3.5 million square miles, we will have complex laws with lots of loopholes and aggressive special interests who drive campaigns (with money). Special interests with money would then just have to exert less energy ma

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

glen e. p. ropella wrote: Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10/05/2008 11:07 AM: You want to talk about willful ignorance? Take a good look around you. Exactly. The trick is: What can we do about it? Hmm, Chelsea Clinton went to work for a hedge fund instead of going in to politi

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

Steve Smith wrote: The point of my talk of ignorance (willful and otherwise) is that to the extent we are complicit in our own problems, we *do* have the ability to retrieve some of our power from those we have given it to out of our own *willful ignorance*. Good rant. :-) I''ll only add th

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

Steve Smith wrote: Yes, and it is not surprising that we would "evolve" personality types to fill this niche. [..] The closest thing I have to an answer (for myself) is to realize that anyone in power is by definition a salesman... they will say and do what it takes to get us to buy their prod

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: It's a big problem; would require a big budget "This is a big package because it's a big problem," Bush said. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectur

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: DHS is not exactly a paradigm for excellence, but on the other hand how much worse could they be than the Federal Reserve at protecting the economy? Just thinking out loud about how to expediently fund such a modeling effort. ;-) ===

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: Imagine that three years ago it was announced that a highly-resolved economic simulation was available that could simulate the US economy 3 years into the future. What are the odds that there would have been anybody around with sufficient domain knowledge, foresight, and

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Robert Holmes wrote: Look at this way then - if he'd had access to a zillion parameter mega-simulation, do you think we'd all be safe and cozy and /wouldn't/ be in the middle of a financial crisis? Yes, then there would be doubt. A N^zillion reasonable scenarios probably with many different ou

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Robert Holmes wrote: But if he's modeling hugely aggregated stuff (inflation, GDP, unemployment, national debt) and the impact his policies would have then it's quite possible he'll get just as robust results from a "simplistic" model as he would from some zillion parameter sim The "impact his

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: /"...it implements the 20 equations to describe the economy during a credit crunch in a programming language called Matlab from MathWorks/." oh, a. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Frida

Re: [FRIAM] Is programming a mathematical formalism

Russell Standish wrote: > Actually a robot would probably do it the same way we do - trial and > error with some kind of feedback loop. > Excuse a side remark on ABM toolkit stuff. I hadn't played with Breve (http://breve.sf.net) until recently. Some relevant features: 1) 3d with collision

Re: [FRIAM] Is programming a mathematical formalism

Robert Holmes wrote: > Is programming a mathematical formalism? No. I know that when I'm > cranking out Python scripts I am not doing any math. Is computer > science a mathematical formalism? Yes. When I'm trying to work out > whether my algorithm scales as N**2 or N.log.N, I'm doing math. A com

Re: [FRIAM] Economic Disequilibrium or How Complexity Sciencenearly killed America

Kenneth Lloyd wrote: > If people will "run a mile" > to avoid something that presents a little difficulty - or that doesn't > pre-exist in their toolbox of universal knowledge - then complex systems > will forever remain out of reach. > He's lost it. Now he's making derogatory remarks about run

Re: [FRIAM] Economic Disequilibrium or How Complexity Science nearly killed America

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The empire is perhpas crumbling. Nah. Dow is already back 400 points so far. If it would just have slid a little more then there would have been some really good buys! FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listser

Re: [FRIAM] well we did finance

Phil Henshaw wrote: > If offering > opportunity for mischief isn't a direct physical cause in this very one > sided kind of case, then tell me why it's so extremely profitable. > Funny how AIGFP could have been allowed to insure $300 billion in debt in private, but the whole company (300 times

Re: [FRIAM] well we did finance

Phil wrote: > By 'things', of course I mean physical systems rather than theoretical ones, > and by 'multiplying' I mean allowing them to operate only if they produce a > surplus you can use to expand them by %'s. > Given the subprime mortgage crisis, I kind of wish that were the case! Credit

Re: [FRIAM] Sliced bread

Douglas Roberts wrote: > VirtualBox 2.0 was released today, and now has 64-bit guest OS support: > > http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-09/sunflash.20080904.1.xml In honor of the occasion, I must build it from source! :-) Marcus FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Sliced bread

Douglas Roberts wrote: > As in this is the best thing since... > > I've been testing it extensively, and find it to be hands-down a > superior product to VMWare Workstation: VMWare has the advantage of running 64 bit clients. Also VMware can replay code e.g. trace and replay debugging... =

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, and mapping

One contribution from category theory for dealing with stateful systems (like organisms) is the Monad. Monads provide a way to compose together computations into larger ones such that an order of execution can be enforced *and* such that the state doesn't need to be passed around from amongst t

Re: [FRIAM] 1. Re: Rosen, Life Itself (Marcus G. Daniels)

Nicholas Thompson wrote: > So, I am beginning to wonder, is it possible that Category Theory is one of > those intellectual developments that has been roundly rejected by the > mainstream, but whose language has crept into the mainstream to a very > great degree? > Type systems of programming la

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > Günther Greindl wrote: > >>> Math (which is more than formal systems) can handle loopy inference >>> quite well. But the modeling vernacular can NOT handle it so well. And >>> >> which mathematics is not a formal system? If it's not formal it's not >> math

Re: [FRIAM] Bais talk and books?

Carl Tollander wrote: > I was fortunately (hoo boy!) wrong, this is different and may be much > related to my questions about observers, but I came away very motivated > by the clarity of the talk to peruse his books on quantum computing, > which were highly recommended by Those In The Know (you

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity

Orlando Leibovitz wrote: > If all of your email messages and all of your wisdom was always > ignored, would that be a problem for you? I'm just responding to what I understood the proposed scenario to be: "A person develops an internal executive process and communicates it to few other people."

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity

Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: > > I think this creative content emerges from two interacting “facts” > qualities of their experience: > > 1. Some people come to such an acceptance and trust in their own > sensibility, you might say their unique or individual sensibility, > that they use it every day

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity 2

Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: > Precisely, who is the man here which is the rigor which is the mortis? > "It's possible to program a computer in English. It's also possible to make an airplane controlled by reins and spurs." John McCarthy, Father of Artificial Intelligence, Professor Emeritus Comp

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity 2

> I think being able to use mathematical symbology on the friam would be > wonderful but not if the syntax is not pliable to speak in new ways. “One man’s rigor is another man’s mortis” Bohren, Craig F. and B. A. Albrecht (1998). Atmospheric Thermodynamics. ==

Re: [FRIAM] Testing ... Can Friam support WYSIWIS?

Steve Smith wrote: >> Finally! >> >> Some serious sarcasm (other than that provided occasionally by yours >> truly) on this list. >> >> >> > > You guys should be more careful about your markup. Doug forgot his start tag, and Steve has a space where he should not. A suggested altern

Re: [FRIAM] Testing ... Can Friam support WYSIWIS?

Owen Densmore wrote: > Do you see something similar? Can we use this stunt for math > conversations on Friam? For security, Thunderbird 2 doesn't want to show remote images. There's an option to allow it on a person by person basis, but actually that doesn't work for me either. Marcus =

[FRIAM] Best of Santa Fe article now online

Hi all, The `Best of Santa Fe' article about the Complex is now available here: http://www.sfreporter.com/cms/story/detail/best_place_to_mix_art_and_science_2008/3824/ Cheers, Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

[FRIAM] neurons vs. transistors

Ken Lloyd wrote: > With a little reorganization and forethought, you can even have your own > mini-supercomputer using banks of GPU cards to crunch vectors and matrices. > See Nvidia's CUDA development system, and their Tesla computer system. > This seems like one area where Clearspeed would rea

Re: [FRIAM] BigIron vs BigWet was: The meaning of "inner".

Steve Smith wrote: > I'm just a bit further from looking into the room where the RoadRunner > is installed and waiting for it to say "What are you doing Dave > (Steve)?" as I reach for the 6inch diameter bundles feeding it power > and connections to the outside world. Btw, I understand the way t

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of "inner".

Jochen Fromm wrote: > I think it is much more difficult > to use a supercomputer with a trillion operations per second > than a huge cluster of ordinary computers, as you can find them > in Google's data centers. > One code for investigating synthetic cognition is called PetaVision. This code

Re: [FRIAM] REPOST: The meaning of "inner".

Jochen Fromm wrote: > Since a brain contains more > than 100 billion neurons, each pattern is a > vast collection of nearly invisible little > things or processes. For comparison, LANL Roadrunner has about 5 trillion transistors for the CPUs (~13000 PowerXCell 8i processors and ~6500 dual core

Re: [FRIAM] LatexRender & Friends: Math Servers

Owen wrote: > The good news is that it works anywhere an tag can be used. The > bad news is that it is a "dead" image. It seems soon there will be the possibility of compiling C (e.g. LaTeX itself) to run on Flash or Firefox's Tamarin... http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,62043

Re: [FRIAM] inner self and discovery: Ann Racuya-Robbins: "inner voice" as mutifaceted experiencable interface between usual awareness and subtle identity as vaster awareness: Rich Murray 2008.07.18

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As an analogy, after decades of viewing plays, TV, and movies, we often find > ourselves attending to the reality that actors are following carefully > evolved scripts, with skillful editing weaving together shots into complex > narratives that entice the viewer to cre

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

Owen Densmore wrote: > I note, all you of many words, Doug was not answered. It is an evolving discussion, and, looking at the archives again, even a reasonably linear one. So I have no response for Doug, nor much concern for his. I'd rather argue semantics with those actually contributing t

[FRIAM] Alzheimer's talk Thursday evening at Bradbury Science Museum

For information about this Alzheimer's lecture series, see: http://int.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/nb.story/story_id/13644/nb_date/2008-06-19 Proteins behaving badly: Link between misfolding and Alzheimer's disease

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Btw, no, I don't mean [science can be pursued by a specified >> automaton]. I mean a growing, developing automaton. Evolving on its >> own accord as well as with editing by human experts. Much more useful >> than a textbook! >> > > The only problem with this belie

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > But, only a few of us believe that science could be pursued by > a specified automaton. Btw, no, I don't mean that. I mean a growing, developing automaton. Evolving on its own accord as well as with editing by human experts. Much more useful than a textbook! =

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > The rest of us admit that implicit and undeclarable knowledge is part of > the codec for any abstracted law. > Do you mean undeclarable in the sense of 1) It's unreasonable to expect a one-time formal, and complete declaration from anyone, or 2) the knowledge can't

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > But the trick with any compression or > encoding is that the simpler the "law", the more complex the codec and > vice versa. Simple codec means complex law. Simple law means complex > codec. And a law is totally useless without its codec, the body of > knowledge t

Re: [FRIAM] Agent Based Modeling and Biomimicry

peter wrote: > This is the same subject that scared me regarding the comments at last > Fridays lecture at SFI " Computational thinking means we do not have > to worry about what is we can target whats desired and model that " > Totally Orwellian This has been the appeal of programming to me s

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: >> >>> Why does a law have to be simpler? > Modeling, traditionally, consists of taking one concrete thing, > in all its particular gory detail, and studying it side-by-side with > some other concrete thing, in all its gory detail. Bot

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: > Why does a law have to be simpler? What is simpler? > This makes the problem seem like it is technical not ontological...i.e. what > is need is greater computing power. If one wants to think about how an organism works without simplification, and be able to poke and pr

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Life - Comments on Gregory Chaitin Lectures Sweden 2005

Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: > > Why does a law have to be simpler? What is simpler? I suppose that is > the reason to be for complexity science that life appears to more > likely move from simpler to more complex. > The most powerful computers in the world can only simulate microseconds of the ma

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > This general sensory-motor category (I'll call it SMI) is the _only_ > evidence we have that an external reality even exists. Those characters you think you see on your computer screen. Those sounds you think you hear coming from your speakers. That us. The voice

Re: [FRIAM] A diversion

Works fine on Vista Ultimate.. The morphing between views is a nice touch. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers: Harpers 2008 July, The Perfect Game, Joshuah Bearman, tells how Pac Man video game masters use profound "flow" states, ranging from perfectly ratio

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I added that profound ethical values are also > inculcated -- trustworthiness, honesty, generosity, openness to many > viewpoints, fairness, fearlessness, optimism, playfulness, humor, > directness, tact, politeness, cooperativeness, prejudice free, accuracy, > rationalit

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Real thought does include agendas, goals and self interest, I > "think." But real thought can be an imaginative, intuitive process, > super conscious, e.g., Bach, Einstein? She says "thinking recursively", "parallel processing", "interpreting code as data and data as

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Perhaps CT in the hands of hedge fund manipulators, the Pentagon and > oil speculators has been very detrimental to our suffering planet. > Perhaps real thought precedes CT. Ahem. "Real thought" is a question of good and evil? ===

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers

Owen wrote: >> I'm not sure how many of us were there, but I found the talk quite >> thought provoking. >> >> An earlier version of her slides are here: >>http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wing/www/ct-and-tc-long.pdf >> .. and a more narrative article is here: >> A recent one from bioinfo

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers

Pamela McCorduck wrote: > Marcus and I heard a different talk. I liked very much what Wing had > to say about computational thinking. She didn't say this must replace > all other kinds of thinking, nor did she say computing is the answer > to everything. She seemed to me to offer a set of to

Re: [FRIAM] A talk of possible interest to FRIAMers

peter wrote: > So we have computational thinking CT, What fears that arises to > develop into PCCT "Politically Correct CT" or the only right way to > think " CTCT Correct Thinking CT ( Guided by suitably well minded > intelligentsia just like CCCP ) especially targeting young > manipulatabl

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

Prof David West wrote: > A computer program, currently, is an attempt to mathematize; and the > goal of traditional computer science is to refine the process of > creating a computer program to the purely formal / mathematical. It is > still an attempt, because a huge gulf remains between what I w

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

Carl Tollander wrote: > the G guy is trying to discredit the other guy by > showing that he is just on a power trip of some sort. I tend to look at > them as subtractive (G) and additive (T) sculpture - complementary if > some common goal is in mind, but the G guy never gets there, as he has >

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

Carl wrote: > A tract on how the history might work, again, *sigh*: > > http://www.dcorfield.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/HowMathematicians.pdf Given a master with power and an apprentice without, don't see why the genealogical view is necessarily at odds with tradition-constituted enquiry -- such that o

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

Michael Agar wrote: > Is a computer program a mathematization? > Proof is that Mathematica is in large part written in the functional programming language Mathematica, and Macsyma/Maxima written in Lisp. Marcus FRIAM Applied Com

Re: [FRIAM] Mentalism and Calculus

Nicholas Thompson wrote: > What about the flow in the opposite direction? Can the calculus tell > us anything about how we think about goal direction in human behavior? Well, goal direction means having some way to measure achieving a goal or getting closer. One artificial neural net training

Re: [FRIAM] Mentalism and Calculus

Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > For instance, a motive, or an intention, is not some inner thing that > directs behavior, but rather the limit of its behavioral direction. > Or it could be that the so-called `motive' or `intention' was merely a rationalization of a subconscious impulse that had alre

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [OS X TeX] gmane archives out of date.

Well, this list swallows e-mails with sufficient frequency that when discussions seem out of context, I just go back to the archives to see why. Sure enough, the answer is usually that the relevant context was never sent, at least to me. In this situations, when I want to reply, I just start

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen and Self-perception

Nick wrote: "This way of looking at emotions identifies them as Situation/Response relations. Just as experienced features of the environment can lead to responses, [E1 -> R1], so these feature response patterns can themselves be patterns that constitute new experienced features that, in turn,

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Science movie?

This is a good one. Attractors.. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Sunshine_of_the_Spotless_Mind FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, ma

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Science movie?

>> Can anyone think of a movie or scene in a movie that >> exemplifies complexity science themes, such as many >> interacting parts with emergent patterns, non-linear >> behaviors, self organizing, etc. Another one: http://www.pithemovie.com ==

Re: [FRIAM] ssh tunnelling around regional content restrictions?

Giles Bowkett wrote: > I think an SSH tunnel would > get the job done, but I don't really know how to build one of those. > The following will remap port 1 (a random free port) on localhost to port 80 (the web) on a target machine. The `gateway' machine is the one that is uncensored. ss

Re: [FRIAM] neccessarily high fences, and an appeal for support.

Steve Smith wrote: > Laptop memberships ($100/ month) from a > significant fraction of this list would pull us out of the current > potential disaster. *now* is a good time to pitch in! Ah ha! Another option is this: http://www.sfcomplex.org/zen-cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3 http:

Re: [FRIAM] neccessarily high fences, and an appeal for support.

Steve Smith wrote: > Great phrase that - "Neccesarily high fences"! It is of special meaning > to me as a recent escapee of same. I still go back inside for some > "cleanup work" but always carry my small bolt-cutters in case I need to > cut my way through said fences. > > [..] > > As a memb

Re: [FRIAM] The Santa Fe Complex needs your help.

Hey Nick, An outsider's first take.. I left work early today and headed down Agua Fria for a look see. I must say it is impressive what you all have done with that area and that building. The facility was buzzing at 7pm and people of all ages were around. A cool and different sort of feel..

Re: [FRIAM] reflexivity

Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation-passing_style FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archive

[FRIAM] Re: Cooked Crotches and fried brains

I particularly like the looks of this antenna.. http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&FamID=60&ProdID=308 aappp! FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College le

Re: [FRIAM] High Voltage, cell phones and other scary things

Nicholas Thompson wrote: > I am getting confused again: Can somebody confirm or deny the following:? > > (1) We have two worries here, high voltage transients and cell phone use. > > (2) They have nothing to do with each other, right? > As I understand it, the transients hypothesis is that hi

Re: [FRIAM] "Dirty Power" Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

Günther Greindl wrote: > I mean, everybody has this stuff at home: why then the cluster at that > school? Wouldn't that speak against transients being responsible > (because they exist everywhere)? > If it were that common, then a 1/1 would be expected. Maybe La Quinta was just the one.

Re: [FRIAM] "Dirty Power" Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24957072/ > > This is re the comments posted recently on power magnetic field health > causes, there are a few PDFs also on line which seem to make sense Here's the abstract of the paper. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119553477/abstract The paper

Re: [FRIAM] Libraries in France switch off wi-fi internet @ popping popcorn with a cell phone

Robert Cordingley wrote: > what do cell phones put out The FCC safety guideline (below) indicates 580 microwatts/cm^2 for GSM frequencies (~800MHz). That's close to what I've measured my phones to generate during a conversation. If you are using say a wired headset or bluetooth earpiece, and the

Re: [FRIAM] re power lines

Don Begley wrote: > WRT the EMF issue, those are at least 345kV power lines if not 500's, > which is a long way from the emissions of consumer items or a > residential power line. Distance and time is what determines the actual exposure, and why electric blankets and other consumer items are com

[FRIAM] [Fwd: ANNOUNCE: Screaming Monkey (ActiveScripting using Tamarin/JS2) binary release.]

New JavaScript 2.0 scripting engine, including JIT hotness.. --- Begin Message --- I'm happy to announce a binary release of Screaming Monkey - the Tamarin based Active Scripting Engine for Windows. This release allows you to use JavaScript 2.0 as currently implemented by Tamarin inside Internet

Re: [FRIAM] power lines

Owen Densmore wrote: > I do believe large power lines are problematic, I certainly wouldn't > feel safe living under one. > Typically there's a right-of-way the builder acquires that extends beyond the boundaries of the widest part of the line (say 150ft). This is so they can come through

Re: [FRIAM] sic transit gloria laptopi

> http://radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi >> Caution: If you read it, read it all, lest the point be missed.. >> As far as I can tell this was the point: > At the end of the day, it just /doesn’t matter/ to the educational > mission what kernel is running Sugar. If Sugar itself

Re: [FRIAM] Processing API ported to Javascript

Owen Densmore wrote: > This points something we've said for ages: the chief problem the > "agile" systems have is that the graphics is not built in .. which > often drives folks to Java (NetLogo, Processing). Javascript has > always had graphics, and is enjoying a huge resurgence due to its

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > Large collectives cannot both be a very abstract > unit/entity _and_ be tightly coupled to the environment. Hence, saying > something like "Intel is an agile multi-national corporation" is either > a self-contradiction or an equivocation on the word "agile". > Given

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

glen e. p. ropella wrote: > Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > >> Glen wrote: >> >>> We can, post hoc, find examples where an entity (lineage, >>> organization, organism, etc) is pre-adapted for some change such that it >>> _seemed_ like that entity

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

Glen wrote: > We can, post hoc, find examples where an entity (lineage, > organization, organism, etc) is pre-adapted for some change such that it > _seemed_ like that entity somehow predicted the change. But this isn't > an effective tactic. It's very effective if the population is large enough.

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

phil henshaw wrote: > I guess what I'm talking about is that the 'bubbles in our minds' are > different from the 'bubbles in the world'... The `bubbles in our minds' must come from the world we witness and say something about the world that will be witnessed. They certainly don't need to be a lit

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

phil henshaw wrote: > No, that does not work at all. Patching together a model to suite a symptom > in retrospect does not help you with being ready for unexpected eventfulness > in nature that you previously had no idea that you should be looking for. > Never said anything about symptoms. I

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

phil henshaw wrote: > Ok, 'find a function' assumes there is one to find, but the problem set is > running into behavior which has already had major consequences (like > starvation for 100million people because of an unexpected world food price > level shift) and the question is what 'function' wou

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

phil henshaw wrote: > Glen wrote: > >> I believe so. At least 1/2 of the solution to any problem lies in a >> good formulation of the problem. And in that sense, being able to >> state >> (as precisely as possible) which closures are maintained in which >> context and which closures are broken

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