Avraham,
With all respect to your point, thanks to use a better language
I did not deny that the Jewish ppl exist since what ever many years, but
does that mean they have to own the whole land now? I think this just give
them the right to live and own their lands, without denying the same right
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
The strategies are changing but what should never be changed is your
believes and your rights.
This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the world today.
Regarding if it is productive pr not. Do you have a better ideas?
Palatines
I do recommend every one to read the history to know why rockets are
lunched from Gaza toward the Israeli lands, and what the Israeli
troops are really doing.
We will go right ahead -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel#Jewish_History_in_Israel
You do not have time ? yes even
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
I agree with your 2nd paragraph, but I still can understand how
Desperate they are just to show that they are still really there and
able to resist.
Yes, they've been doing that for over 50 years now, it's not working. Time
to change strategy.
Most palestinians are born in Palestine and have their ancestors from there.
While 99% of israelis, come from countries such as Ukraine , Russia ,
Morocco, Germany..
That dont give them the right to claim anything in Palestine land.
They want war so now they die all. Israelis are suicidal people ,
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Alaa Abdelwahab alaa.abdelwa...@free.frwrote:
Avraham,
With all respect to your point, thanks to use a better language
I did not deny that the Jewish ppl exist since what ever many years, but
does that mean they have to own the whole land now?
They owned the
Mikael
This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the world today.
What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are tying to
be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I.
The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
bua...@buanzo.com.ar wrote:
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Oh come on, who gives a real fuck... god doesn't exist anyway. Religion is
an excuse to dominate
simple minds.
At least 178 Jews and persons of half- or
Avraham,
I see you are telling so many mistakes here and I don't believe we all have
time to follow.
If you really care to continue this discussion, thanks to only send to my
address, and I will be more than happy to go through this argue as long as
it takes,.
Just one comment, who
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yeah, yeah...
Avraham Schneider wrote:
yeah, yeah... I know it's painful to hear the truth.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
bua...@buanzo.com.ar mailto:bua...@buanzo.com.ar wrote:
yeah, yeah..
Avraham Schneider
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Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
If you really care to continue this discussion, thanks to only send to
my address, and I will be more than happy to go through this argue as
long as it takes,.
Yeah, take all these crap out of a full-disclousure, IT
Arturo,
Being not believer does not give you the right to insult believers (Jews,
Christians and Muslims).
Who told you this is about religion? Read the subject plz. I don't agree to
discuss religion things here as well.
Thanks to keep your idea to yourself as long as it does not really add to
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
Yeah, take all these crap out of a full-disclousure, IT security
mailing list, please...
To keep the discussion on topic, what do you think about the israel
ability to professionaly arrange national-wide SMS spamming to border
countries?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Alaa Abdelwahab alaa.abdelwa...@free.frwrote:
Avraham,
I see you are telling so many mistakes here and I don't believe we all have
time to follow.
Heh. funny - I was responding to your propaganda that was completely
off-topic to this list - if you don't
Be careful of what you wish for.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things like
that. Stop the damn religion
of bein g an excuse
Should I remind you that the biggest murderers of all times: Stalin, Hitler,
Mao where motivated by non-religious agendas and were Atheists?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
bua...@buanzo.com.ar wrote:
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The bloodshed is
Talking of which... Hamas lately spammed Israelis with SMS's (with broken
funny Hebrew) in their pathetic attempt at scaring Israelis - was the joke
of the day for a while.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
li...@infosecurity.ch wrote:
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
You have the wrong idea that I am trying to agree with you on something.
Let me break it to you - I am not.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Alaa Abdelwahab alaa.abdelwa...@free.frwrote:
Avraham,
Be careful of what you wish for.
You see, we have agreed on something finally J
Brgds…Alaa
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Move out of full disclousure if you want to be respected. Sorry, but I prefer
to be a troll with you.
Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
Arturo,
Being not believer does not give you the right to insult believers (Jews,
Christians and Muslims).
Who
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Well, if you'd really believed in afterlife / paradise / hell, we shouldn't
worry, huh? :)
Indirect threats are very... funny.
Avraham Schneider wrote:
Be careful of what you wish for.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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They were murderers. Haters. Idiots. Motherfuckers. Religion is not the only
excuse to be a killer.
Please, if you're gonna make excuses, make good ones. People is bad for many
reasons. Religion is
one of the biggest excuses, HISTORICALLY, but
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Prototype This termin...@gmail.com wrote:
Most palestinians are born in Palestine and have their ancestors from there.
prove it.
While 99% of israelis, come from countries such as Ukraine , Russia ,
Morocco, Germany..
So what makes them Israeli in the first
This thread has the same kind of full disclosure as seeing my grandma in
itsy bitsy bikinis.
Could you take this thread the fuck out of here? take it private or take
it to another mailing
list. If you lack one, I can host one as long as I don't have to read
it. The only positive thing
seen so
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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They were murderers. Haters. Idiots. Motherfuckers. Religion is not the
only excuse to be a killer.
I agree.
Please, if you're gonna make excuses, make
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Toni Koivunen t...@teamfurry.com wrote:
This thread has the same kind of full disclosure as seeing my grandma in
itsy bitsy bikinis.
Could you take this thread the fuck out of here? take it private or take
it to another mailing
Not interested in continuing -
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yeah, yeah..
Avraham Schneider wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
bua...@buanzo.com.ar mailto:bua...@buanzo.com.ar wrote:
Oh come on, who gives a real fuck... god doesn't exist anyway.
Religion is an excuse
yeah, yeah... I know it's painful to hear the truth.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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yeah, yeah..
Avraham Schneider wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
They just want their country back. Thats all.
It seems that Israeli want to have more, and more. And more.
Israelis build settlements outside the borders of Israel.
In History there where made some appointments which part belongs to the
Israeli and which to the Palestinian.
But it seems that the
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The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things like that.
Stop the damn religion
of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed, he'd
probably be thinking about
nuking the hell out of Earth.
Alaa Abdelwahab
Mikael,
Thanks for your interest to answer my Msg.
The strategies are changing but what should never be changed is your
believes and your rights.
Regarding if it is productive pr not. Do you have a better ideas?
Palatines have tried the peace, and look what they have got, a state with no
Mikael,
I agree with your 2nd paragraph, but I still can understand how Desperate
they are just to show that they are still really there and able to resist.
If they stop doing any thing knowing that they have no resources at all (No
water/Power/fuel/airports/schools, completely surrounded by
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Oh come on, who gives a real fuck... god doesn't exist anyway. Religion is an
excuse to dominate
simple minds.
Avraham Schneider wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Alaa Abdelwahab alaa.abdelwa...@free.fr
mailto:alaa.abdelwa...@free.fr
So, mr. Paul Schmehl,
Can you tell me why the israelian want to have more and more? After they get
a gift for their ppl?
Thats what frustrating me the most.
If you get something as a gift. And still want to have more.
Thats not very thankful
Israeli are still guests. And welcome.
When you
Avraham,
It looks like you are only good in extending your enemies list.
As long as you insist to use such language, I'm not interested as well.
I don't see why this much hate I can feel in your answers, while I was
trying to be subjective.
Any way thank you all for your time and I
Avraham,
Be careful of what you wish for.
You see, we have agreed on something finally :-)
Brgds.Alaa
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After WWI winners tried to punish the losers. The losers felt unjust
punished and revolted, so we had WWII. After WWII the losers were
integrated instead...
This is a myth. There were huge land and population transfers after
WWII, especially land from Germany to Poland and German populations from
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
If you don't like to think about it and maybe we are all technical ppl who
really only understand numbers? I will help as well
In the last 8 years there were 5000 rockets (if we can really call it
rockets) launched from the green areas killed 5 and
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:44:57 GMT, Mainbox Notif said:
In History there where made some appointments which part belongs to the
Israeli and which to the Palestinian.
But it seems that the Israeli want more. Thats are not very thankful, he?
Please stay between your own borders!
The basic
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:22:00 +0200, Avraham Schneider said:
Not interested in continuing - was just responding to cheap propaganda
started by an idiot.
You people can't even agree to stop a flame war.
How do you expect the Israelis and Palestinians to stop a *real* war?
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Since then they have been giving more and more ground to Palestine (...)
[/quote]
It seems that you don' t read the newspapers.
Do you really know what is happening there?
A fact is that it is the opposite: They (the Israeli) have been giving less
and less ground to the Palestine
suspecting = expecting.
Apologize
(English reading is easier than writing, apologize)
2009/1/4 Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com
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Since then they have been giving more and more ground to Palestine (...)
[/quote]
It seems that you don' t read the newspapers.
Do you really know what
--On January 4, 2009 5:10:04 AM -0600 Alaa Abdelwahab
alaa.abdelwa...@free.fr wrote:
Maybe I will try to help more after 10 years from now by sending another
Map, and lets discuss then why the Palestinians didn’t resist to
exist, if we will remember if there was a country called Palestine,
Before this topic I could not imagine that there was a man who is against
the palestinian.
I read my newspapers, I see the news, daily. So I know 'something' about
the war which was started by the israeli.
I 'm graduated, so I can say, I'm not ' the stupid guy'. I read my books,
and I am
A flame war never kill children and women. You dont receive a Flame
email while you are sleeping or your 2 month old child get killed by
it. If you dont want flame war you can always quit. With real war ,
you cannot. Even there no Mortar Filter or Bullet Catcher in real
life.
Personally i filter
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com wrote:
So, mr. Paul Schmehl,
Can you tell me why the israelian want to have more and more? After they get
a gift for their ppl?
Thats what frustrating me the most.
If you get something as a gift. And still want to have
I don't get why this is news. Murder happens all the time.
Has he even been found guilty yet? True it looks like it is, but just
look at that news article! You can perve on some poor guys destruction
because it makes great news. I remember this happened a few years back
to someone else and the
Well Israel is a very young nation, in 61 years of existence, they have
been in war with all of them neighborhood, Egypt, Syria, Liban,Jordan,
Palestine.
If someone can find an explication that makes sens, i'll take it.
Also Mr pro-sionist (Avraham Schneider) i dont believe in god nowaday but
--On January 4, 2009 4:44:57 AM -0600 Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com
wrote:
They just want their country back. Thats all.
It seems that Israeli want to have more, and more. And more.
Israelis build settlements outside the borders of Israel.
In History there where made some appointments
--On January 4, 2009 10:05:15 AM -0600 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
bua...@buanzo.com.ar wrote:
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The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things like
that. Stop the damn religion
of bein g an excuse for your country's desires,
--On January 4, 2009 1:25:29 PM -0600 Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com
wrote:
So, mr. Paul Schmehl,
Can you tell me why the israelian want to have more and more? After they
get a gift for their ppl?
What is the more and more that you claim they want?
That's what frustrating me the most.
--On January 4, 2009 4:18:52 PM -0600 Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com
wrote:
[quote]
Since then they have been giving more and more ground to Palestine (...)
[/quote]
It seems that you don' t read the newspapers.
That's correct. I don't read newspapers. Most of them lie more than they
--On January 4, 2009 5:20:05 PM -0600 Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com
wrote:
Before this topic I could not imagine that there was a man who is
against the palestinian.
Really? Not one single man? I dare say you can find several men who
would be opposed to any subject you raised,
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Prototype This termin...@gmail.com wrote:
A flame war never kill children and women. You dont receive a Flame
email while you are sleeping or your 2 month old child get killed by
it. If you dont want flame war you can always quit. With real war ,
you cannot.
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Mainbox Notif rokade...@gmail.com wrote:
Before this topic I could not imagine that there was a man who is against
the palestinian.
We are against terrorits, not against the Palestinians - they are victims
like us - we both have Hamas to blame for.
I read my
On Jan 4, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Avraham Schneider wrote:
When there is no choice, there is no choice - Israel has to defend
it's own
civilian population as a first priority.
Let me tell you a little of the latest events -
1) IDF calls a family in Gaza, to let them know they are about to
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