Sally Lerner may not be happy to be called an economist but she would be
happy to see any and all friends in the Ottawa area who want to come by and
say hello.
Arthur Cordell
For Immediate Release
March 13, 1999
Noted Canadian and U.S. economists in
This may be of interest.
-
Monday, April 3, 2000
DIGITAL NATION
Foes of "New Economy" Gaining Voice
By Gary Chapman
Copyright 2000, The Los Angeles Times, All Rights Reserved
The baby boomers running and profiting from the "new economy" grew up
in,
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From: Edward R Weick
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sweatshops
Date: Sunday, April 16, 2000 5:57PM
Arthur:
Maybe I missed it, but have we adequately explored the creation of strong
trade unions in these countries, trade unions that are part of a movement
small but important (I think)point.
Ed,
Arthur has also commented that the kinds of criticisms which I leveled at
the Washington protesters were also leveled at the kids who were protesting
the Vietnam War. I think there's a difference. The Vietnam protesters were
opposing something specific
Yup. The word you are looking for is, I believe, parody. A word that
defines much of what is going on these days. Question is what will
authentic reaction and rebellion look like?
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From: Edward R Weick
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Battle of Washington
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2000
Good analysis. It seems that our society has a problem that should not be
solved by economists, rather it seems that we need to see it as a
psychiatric problem. How does a society find meaning when the basic
production problem has been solved? Why it invents new tasks and runs
faster and
I am passing this along for any who wish to become involved.
arthur cordell
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From: Terry Cottam
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Request for help on y2k
Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 12:21PM
To:
Art Cordell, Special Advisor
Information Technology Policy
Industry Canada
I'm
That is one reason why the bit tax, in some form, might be the better
alternative.
It is independent of the transaction. It is a simple turnover tax on all
interactive digital traffic.
Something like a gasoline tax.
Arthur Cordell
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From: Neva Goodwin
To: Michael Gurstein
Cc: Canadian
This may be of interest to some.
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From: Phil Agre
To: Red Rock Eater News Service
Subject: [RRE]Reading List for Information Studies
Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 9:39PM
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This message was forwarded through
I would guess that if economics would (could?) internalize all
externalities and would stop playing the economic growth game (which I don't
think is central to economic theory--a theory which deals with the
allocation of scarce resources among competing uses), then Jay Hanson and
company would
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A TALE OF WOE FROM THE NORTH POLE
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:28PM
Modern Holiday Greetings:
A TALE OF WOE FROM THE NORTH POLE
The recent announcement that Donner and Blitzen have elected to take the
early reindeer retirement
Technology is also labour empowering or enhancing. McCluhan said it expands
our reach. Viz., right now I am posting this message to a computer in
Waterloo, Ontario that is forwarding to about 500 or so other computers
around the world.
This is what helps to make it a 'transformative
Re-posting this as it seems not to have got through our 'fire-wall'.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Views on Rifkin's theory?
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:59PM
Arthur Cordell wrote,
Technology is also labour empowering or enhancing.
Could be he is saying 'stop this before my dystopian vision becomes a
realitya cyber plea for help'.
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From: Michael Gurstein
To: futurework
Cc: Caspar Davis
Subject: Re: More Angell Dust
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 5:16PM
Ian Angell is for real. He is a Professor of
Friday November 27, 1:50 PM (EST)
Mergers ax 5,000 jobs a month
CHICAGO, Nov. 27 (UPI S) _ Even with the economy perking along and the stock
market
rebounding, nearly 55,000 workers have gotten the ax since July because of
corporate
mergers. That's an increase of 48 percent from last year,
This is going around my government department, so thought I would pass it
on.
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From: Charette, Lynn: SITT
To: -SITT Branch Coord; -DPP; -ECOM-TF
Subject: FW: BEWARE: Phone Scam
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 7:47AM
Priority: High
FYI
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From: Dube, Jacqueline: DGSE
To:
Should add to the list E.J. Mishan's publications. 21 Economic Fallacies
and (I think this is the correct title) The Costs of Economic Growth.
arthur cordell
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From: Jay Hanson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DANGEROUS CURRENTS
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 3:31PM
From: Mike
I get ever more worried when someone steps up to a TV camera to announce
'the fundamentals are sound'. Somehow I hear 'prosperity is just around the
corner'. When the fundamentals are truly sound we don't have to repeat
again and again.
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From: Ed Weick
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom
A great posting from Ed. I guess citizens all over the world are wondering
the same thing. It is one thing for governments to embrace the corporate
agenda it is quite another to say to its citizens, 'you are on your own.'
What's a citizen to do? 'Partnering' doesn't seem to do it.
arthur
We have seen nations move from private ownership (markets, etc) to
collective ownership of one sort or another. Is there any precedence for
the reverse. Not counting the east bloc (who were private until WW2), what
hope can there be to put in place the set of institutions, rule of law,
respect
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From: Ian Ritchie
To: futurework
Subject: RE: civil service
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 10:25PM
I agree with Victor and others about the need to "reform" the
civil/public service if the ideology is to be rolled back.
In New Zealand, and I suspect this applies in
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Disgruntled
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 2:07PM
San Francisco Examiner SaturdayOct 24, 1998
DISGRUNTLED
First with an on-line magazine and now with a
book, East Bay author finds there
An interesting web site for those interested in a slightly different
economic analysis of everyday events.
http://www.epinet.org/
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Democracy and Megacorporations Don't Mix -- Robert Reich
Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 5:05PM
The Los Angeles Times Wednesday, May 13, 1998
Democracy and Megacorporations May Be Mutually Exclusive
A century
1:25 -0500
To: "Cordell, Arthur: DPP" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Ryan Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: if it works ... Re: Get me off this list
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Precedence: bulk
My point exactly. SHOW ME THE DOOR! You shouldn't have to WORK to ge
Interesting use of the net.
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From: Steven Clift
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DW] Corr! - Direct Reports from Kosovo - E-mail to Web Service
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:24PM
*** Democracies Online Newswire - http://www.e-democracy.org/do ***
URL Correction - Version 2
Monday February 22, 12:52 PM (EST)
Levi Strauss to lay off 5,900
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 22 (UPI S) _ Levi Strauss has announced (Monday) that it
will
close 11 of its 22 North American manufacturing facilities this year and lay
off
5,900 workers _ 30 percent of its workforce in the United States
Am passing along this item to the list. I have known and worked with Ursula
for some years when she was a member of the Science Council of Canada. She
is thoughtful and concerned. She fled Germany in the thirties and her views
and metaphores have been shaped by that event. Nevertheless,
Socializing losses and privatizing profits. Interesting sort of
asymmetrical market economy.
arthur cordell
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From: tom abeles
To: Ed Weick
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bringing down the MAI
Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 7:29PM
Ed Weick wrote, in part:
As you may have
Just couldn't resist passing along this 'prayer.' For those of you who
remember Ginsburg's epic poem Howl...
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A Prayer to the Global Corporate Gods
Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 1:42PM
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:06:52
Subject: A
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From: Gary Chapman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LA Times column, 5/25/98
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 5:55AM
Friends,
Below is my latest column for The Los Angeles Times, from Monday, May 25,
1998. As always, please feel free to pass this on, but please retain the
copyright
A different view on globalization and the future of the nation state.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Weekly Analysis -- February 1, 1999
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 12:40AM
Need to Know Something Fast?
Try
A different view on globalization and the future of the nation state.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Weekly Analysis -- February 1, 1999
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 12:40AM
Need to Know Something Fast?
Try
GETTING OLD AT A YOUNG AGE
In the old days, executives who had gone as far as they could go were said
to be "on a plateau"; now, in the new economy, executives in that condition
are on a ledge, as corporate America faces a new era, in which age 40 is
starting to be considered old. In a
Yes. Just in the last few days. We'll check it out. thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Double postings from yours truly?
Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 3:43PM
I'm getting double postings back of stuff I put up onto this list -
January 4/99
Japan's Justice Minister blasts U.S. economic practices
TOKYO (AP) - Japan's outspoken justice minister today accused the
United States of relying on
military threats to protect its economic market, Kyodo news agency
reported.
``America's free-market
.
Disregard it. All it means is that the FW server has got your message and
is sending it out to the list.
arthur cordell
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From: Mike Hollinshead
To: Cordell, Arthur: DPP
Subject: RE: Double postings from yours truly?
Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 5:56PM
Arthur,
I double posted
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Poll shows Canadians oppose Bell move
Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 5:29PM
For immediate release January 15,
1999
Poll shows Canadians oppose Bell move
OTTAWA - Well over 80% of Canadians
Contingent labour for some in acedemia. From current edition of
~
Innovation -- A NewsScan (R) Service
~
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A PRAYER TO THE CORPORATE GODS
Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 7:21PM
A PRAYER TO THE CORPORATE GODS
O mighty global corporations, we are helpless without you. Please bring
your menial jobs here to our nation and town. Though we have
I guess I would like to add that sustainable work is that which is something
that the doer finds interesting and/or creative and/or a reflection of
him/her self. Something that seems to provide meaning for the doer.
Something that even in the absence of payment, the doer might continue to
have
Or, maybe, the selfish gene wants *my * DNA to go forward. Maybe we have no
'program' for the human species. Coming from a wide open world (the hunter
gatherer saga) there is nothing in our internal makeup to cause us to
cooperate at the level of survival of the human species. This latter
I think there is also the issue of measurement. Economics as we know it
comes from the era of hardware, or things, of sailing ships, smokestackes
and freightcars. Things that can be observed and measured. In this
new-fangled knowledge economy we are still devising ways of measuring (never
mind
I think this has been solved. Check to see whether you are subbed under two
separate email addresses. This might explain the two postings.
arthur cordell
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From: vivian Hutchinson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: double-ups of mailings
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 3:30AM
Gidday
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Workplace sabotage on the rise as job security wanes
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 4:24PM
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES October 31, 1998
SURE, WORKERS GET MAD BUT MORE GET EVEN
Sabotage Is on the Rise As Job Security
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Public Forum on Poverty and Inequality
Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 4:43PM
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS NOTICE WIDELY
__
Public Forum on Poverty and Inequality
THE GROWING GAP
test tues am
tues 1:30 pm
Thanx for the posting.
Angel's papers represent a different view. One that is important to
understand. We are trying to have Ian Angell as a guest on the FW list.
Mike Gurstein is in contact with Angell. Stay tuned. If it happens it is
likely to be soon and it is likely to LIVELY.
In the
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From: Phil Agre
To: Red Rock Eater News Service
Subject: [RRE]Communication, Culture, and Technology Program
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 6:01PM
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This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News
Technology changes the job market. Bit by bit. Job by job. Community by
community.
Globe and Mail. Op-Ed.
That phone doesn't ring here any more
Monday, December 14, 1998
MARJORIE DOYLE
IN NEWFOUNDLAND -- Some years ago, I
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From: Edward Weick
To: Caspar Davis
Cc: Futurework; Wayne Greenall
Subject: Re: Douthwaite's Version
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 9:31AM
snip
Weick:
I think that what you have said in the above paragraph is a major part of
the problem. What I fear most right now is the vast
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Globalization as anti-democratic counter-revolution
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:23PM
THE THREAT OF GLOBALIZATION
Edward S. Herman
Globalization is both an active process of corporate
I received the latest copy of INNOVATION and two items jumped out at me.
Seeing both I was reminded of the books/movies?
Playing for Time and I'm Dancing as Fast as I Can. The technology continues
to chew up and spit out workers at a brisk rate. Those going into
consulting are advised by
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From: Gary Chapman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: L.A. Times column, 5/10/99
Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:42AM
Friends,
Below is my Los Angeles Times column for today, Monday, May 10, 1999. As
always, please feel free to pass this on, but please retain the copyright
notice.
I feel very strongly as you. I worry about a nuclear exchange. Why not
appear at a local protest against the war. Media coverage of protesters
will do more to stop things than any amount of talk and flames on this or
any list.
thanx
arthur cordell
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From: Eva Durant
To: [EMAIL
I am re-posting our caveat of a few weeks ago. The war is front and center
with all of us. Discussions about it could easily
swamp all the lists on the net. So Sally and I appeal to all FWers and
your netizen ideals and values to keep futurework to its main discussion
focus. Thanx.
some may be interested in this .
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From: e-network
To: e-network
Subject: Families: A Social Bottom Line/ Familles: un optimum social
Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 3:45PM
Canadian Families have a Social Bottom Line, new Study shows
Ottawa, May 14, 1999 Canadian families have a
This could have postitive implicaitons.
COURT SAYS TEMPS DESERVE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
A federal court of appeals has ruled that about 10,000 temporary workers at
Microsoft are entitled to take part in the discounted stock-option plan the
company offers to regular
Tuesday May 25 12:45 AM ET
Study: Many California Workers Miss Out
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's high-tech success has helped drive
the long U.S. economic boom, but workers
inside the state have often fared worse than those in other parts of the
country, a new study shows.
Bravo, Tom. The Economist is a good idea that has gone wrong. They tend to
believe their rhetoric.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Suggestions
Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 12:33PM
At 06:24 PM 5/27/99 +0100, Suggestions wrote:
Thanks for your message. We
interesting 'straw in the wind'.
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TRADE'S IMAGE TAKES BEATING AMONG PUBLIC - Los Angeles Times
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:40PM
The Los Angeles Times May 31, 1999
TRADE'S IMAGE TAKES BEATING AMONG
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From: Sid Shniad
Subject: Unions and Wages
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:50PM
Unions and Wages
Union membership helps to raise workers' pay and to narrow the income gap
that leaves women and minorities at a disadvantage.
Overall, union workers earn 32% more than those not in
A rather long piece but quite interesting
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From: Phil Agre
To: Red Rock Eater News Service
Subject: [RRE]Cyberspace as the New Frontier?
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 3:02PM
[I have heavily reformatted this, so any formatting problems are my fault.]
some futureworkers may be interested in this book.
==
TITLE: Capitalism and the information age :
the political economy of the global communication revolution /
PLACE: New York, NY :
PUBLISHER: Monthly Review Press,
I rarely completely agree with any posting. But I think Ed is right.
Rifkin is saying much that is rings true but he emphasizes the wrong
things. I see Rifkin delivering his message from a megaphone to a crowd
in the street. Too stark, too strident, too binary.
arthur
--
From: Ed
cordell
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From: tom abeles
To: Cordell, Arthur: DPP
Cc: Ed Weick; 'futurework'; Ian Ritchie
Subject: Beyond Rifkin?
Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:32AM
Arthur and Ed's responses have given me pause. Let me see if I can sort
through these issues and get some help.
First, there seems
I like the posting but on second reading I am puzzled by the closing
paragraphs.
Does this mean that we have to accept the unravelling of the success of
economic development as though it is entirely outside our control? Are
there no policy options or actions that we can develop?
Much of my
I am forwarding this piece from the NY Times. It says something about our
economy and maybe globalization, but I am puzzled whether its 'good' or
'bad' or 'both'.
arthur cordell
=
Monday, July 19, 1999
Prosperity Builds Mounds of Cast-Off Clothes
The
And I would guess that in xxx years from now people will look back on the
commuters, subway riders and busy busy people and say what? You mean people
went into a Kafka/Mondrian environment and parroted the party line just to
get paid. No wonder there is so little incentive to break the
Interesting little item from the NY Times. Rate of increase in incomes of
Wall Street traders and investment bankers is making other New Yorkers
worried.
==
Metro Business: Wall Street Salaries Up 10 Percent in '98
The New York Times
Publication Date:
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From: Gary Chapman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: L.A. Times column, 9/13/99
Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:44AM
Friends,
Below is my Los Angeles Times column for this morning, Monday,
September 13, 1999. As always, please feel free to pass this on, but
please retain the
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From: e-network
To: e-network
Subject: Averages can lie-Commentary/Des moyennes trompeuses-Commentaire
Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 5:03PM
(le français suit)
Averages can lie
by Judith Maxwell
When Canadians look with envy at American incomes and productivity
Note: reading the material can threaten your sense of well-being.
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From: Anthony Judge
To: Cordell, Arthur: DPP
Subject: Briefing
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 6:53AM
Greetings
You may be amused by a "Briefing for Satan" at
http://www.uia.org/musings/briefing.htm
Well she is looking for a job isn't she and this forum is about the future
of work isn't it??? Therefore
arthur cordell
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From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
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From: Ed Weick
(commenting on Challen)
WHY WORK
( like all good work - unfinished )
Real work is mental or physical effort
benefiting at once ourselves, others, and
the delicate inter-dependence of the planet.
Yes, yes, that is a very nice thought, and your poem is very nice
Just getting around to this site. Imitation is the sincerest form of
flattery so I guess we should be happy that the US govt with all its
resources has adopted futurework as the title for its web site dealing with
work in the new economy.
arthur cordell
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From: S. Lerner
To: [EMAIL
Book review from the Guardian Weekly
=
Viviane Forrester can't walk down a Paris street without being stopped. But
she is no ordinary celebrity - her latest book is set to be the biggest
economics bestseller since Das Kapital, writes Ian Cotton
Labour of
DOING MORE WITH LESS.LEADS TO MORE WORK, LESS WORKERS
If it seems like all those pink slips have left you and fellow workers left
behind with a lot of extra work to do, it's true. According to a new
national survey by the American Management Association, about 80% of the
firms that laid off
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From: Phil Agre
To: Red Rock Eater News Service
Subject: [RRE]Directions and Implications of Advanced Computing
Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 12:27AM
[Reformatted to 70 columns.]
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
This message was forwarded
I don't think its perfect bodies so much as talking about those things which
don't or can't happen. So we see cooking shows on TV (people can't, won't
or have forgotten how to cook), we see 4 x 4 cars in wilderness (which
wilderness, where), you fill in the rest. I think it is about parody.
For a way to demonstrate population changes...
check this page
http://www.popexpo.net/eAujourdhui.html
arthur cordell
I tried in a fumbling way to talk about the consumption of images,
experience, fashion or trying to imagine ourselves as part of another story.
Imagine my surprise when at my local library I ran across a book, The Dream
Society, which says pretty much the same thing. The book is quite
Features / Paying people to have the time of your life / Karina Mantavia
Paying people to have the time of your life
Karina Mantavia
In a central London office a small group of people are engaged in some
serious phone-bashing. In half an hour they have booked a helicopter flight,
picked up
thanx Tom. I was trying to remember his name (without running to the
bookshelf).Yup, Lange thought he could do it.
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From: Timework Web
To: Bob McDaniel
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: torn
Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 10:23PM
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Bob McDaniel wrote:
It
For those who want more, much more about the WTO please see below.
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From: Steven Clift
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DW] WTO Lists and Links
Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 11:54AM
*** Democracies Online Newswire - http://www.e-democracy.org/do ***
An amazing collection of
I guess the question is ---In a globalized world there will be harmonization
(of wages, working conditions, environment, etc.), do we want to try to
achieve upward harmonization or do we allow a drift to lower standards.
There will be harmonization: At what level. I (as you can gather) would
closed doors and then we
will all wonder what happened to the middle class. A two tier society is
easy to reach, maintaining a broad middle class (one of the stabilizing
aspects of development) is I think more difficult to maintain.
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From: Cordell, Arthur: DPP
To: Judi Kessler; Andrew Straw
Who was it that said, 'a capitalist will sell you the rope that you later
use to hang him' ?
I thought it was Engels, but can't find the source.
The quote, though, shows the problem. One of greed and lack of long term
attention to enlightened self interest.
I guess Lord Acton also said it,
Cordell responds to Middleton responding to Cordell.
As a central player in the Conserver Society concept developed by the
Science Council (20 years ago where I was a Science Advisor at the time) of
course I agree with your comments.
But going with infant mortality, caloric intake, access to
Friends,
Below is my Los Angeles Times column for today, Monday, December 6,
1999. As always, please feel free to pass this on, but please retain
the copyright notice.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Monday, December 6, 1999
DIGITAL NATION
A Classic Clash of
Tuesday December 7
Corporate Layoffs Surge 123 Percent
NEW YORK (Reuters) - After hitting a 25-month low in October, U.S.
corporations
returned to the job-chopping block, announcing 50,907 layoffs in November,
a 123 percent
surge over the previous month, according to Challenger, Gray
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:20 PM
This was forwarded to me and I confirmed with Telus that it is in fact
true. "I received a telephone call last evening from an individual A T
Service Technician who
Agree.
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From: Tim Rourke
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:39AM
It is time this whole putrid 'string' about whether jews are capitalists
dissapeared. It should never have gottern started. If it does not I am
going to contact the Jewish anti-defamation
It seems that the Czechs in 1968 tried to bring in Socialism with a human
face. How about Capitalism with a human face?
arthur cordell
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From: Ed Weick
To: Bruce Leier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ed Goertzen
Subject: Re: torn: Reply to Ed Wieck
Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:50PM
Ed,
It is difficult in a broad list like this to write in an ironic style.
Without knowing someone well, without observing body language, etc. there is
bound to be a range of interpretations. It is difficult to deal with subtle
points that might push others hot buttons.
arthur cordell
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Tim. Enough. Moving on means moving on. Let it go or get off the list.
arthur cordell
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From: Tim Rourke
To: Ed Weick
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Moving on.
Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:26PM
Now, I admit I might have missed part of the beginning of this
jew=capitalist
Agree. It was more like Chicago 1968.
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From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: Re Krystallnacht in Seattle(?)
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:52PM
Replying to no particular posting on this thread:
Is "Krystallnacht" really an appropriate word to apply
to
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