,
it behooves us to take steps in these directions.
Cheers,
Lawry
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From: Darryl and Natalia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:07 PM
To: Lawrence deBivort; 'M.Blackmore'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Minuteman Groups
Barry, great idea to build such a list, and input from our non-US friends
would be helpful as well.
We are looking around at possible candidates right now here in Maryland with
the hope of finding one or two that deserve some early support and coaching.
I think a list of criteria would provide a
No, it is not a given. I'm surprised you are paying attention to the
quality of her hair-do.
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:44 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE:
Natalia,
Please know that at least this American has a deep respect for Canada. Your
help on getting US citizens out of Iran, your general quiet thoughtfulness,
your participation in peace-keeping activities, the contributions of
individual Canadians to US life (e.g. Jennings) -- these are all
Welcome to the list, John,
The rush to judgment on Katrina has been part of the disaster, IMO, so I am
sympathetic to Sternberg and his well-conceived essay. This said, it is
also clear that the current administration has the US budget so locked in to
its 'war on terror' that should other things
Hi, Karen,
For the US to broach secretive talks with bin Laden, I
think the best person would be an American who:
Has some credibility
within the US administration, e.g. someone who has been involved in
counter-terrorism studies, or has some experience of the Middle East
Hi, Natalia,
People often assert that they hate and
denounce most in others those things that they hate in themselves. I have found
this phenomenon intriguing for many years, for it provides a short-cut to
understanding how a person views themselves, consciously or subconsciously.
For those interested in the 'war on terrorism', you may wish to look at
today's article in the Boston Globe (reprinted in the International Herald
Tribune) by Mohammad-Mahmoud Ould Mohamedou, Is it Time to Talk to
al-Qaeda?
If you can't find it, email me.
Cheers,
Lawry
With today's news comes word of the US's attack on the city of Tal Afar
(misspelled, of course by the Western media as Talafar). Civilians are
reported fleeing. So now we have one more city implacably committed against
the US. Will as many die as did in Fallaja?
The bureaucratic mistakes of
The most unattractive thing about an inability to empathize
is the unidimensional judgment to which it leads.
The most attractive thing about empathy is that it
encourages a combination of sympathy and intelligent participation.
Lawry
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Harry, you entirely missed the point of Karens
posting. She reported a significant instance where the cost of the invasion and
occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan DID cut back improving the New Orleans
levees. At this point those adventures have cost the US citizen well over
$120 BILLION.
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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005
1:50 PM
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futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
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Unfriendly workplace in the sky . 3rd world culture
Very well said, Lawry. I agree with you,
but I wouldlike to know in which countriesdo you think when you
talk about
:43 PM
To: 'Lawrence deBivort';
futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Gone
with the Water
Lawry,
Yet
again you use ad hominems in place of thought.
Do your
best to look at things as they are rather than veiled by your
empathy.
It is
probable that those people
,
Lawry
From: Harry Pollard
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005
1:03 PM
To: 'Lawrence deBivort'; 'Cordell,
Arthur: ECOM'; 'Karen Watters Cole'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Gone
with the Water
Lawry,
Death
is an individual
Hi, Karen,
Not only was the failure of the levees predicted for a long
time (see, e,g, John McPhees writings of some decades ago; one of his
sections is on the Mississippi levees and the policy of the US Corps of
Engineers with regard to containing the river), but in Katrina we have NOT
Hi, Karen,
Ive examined the pictures of Katrina carefully
for the matter is portentous and clearly saw the images of Bush,
Cheney, and Rove is what I can only delicately refer to as a most compromising
position. I was stunned to see this, especially as the weather channel
repeated the
I don't think it is a red-herring, because your original suggestion was that
people be able to protect their societies. So If we simply allow a theory
that any group can define itself and then 'protect' themselves by harming
others, we have only created a theory that 'might makes right'. What I
My question is how do you define their...
I am going after the way we define what groups we belong to. This is a vital
question, if we are going to arrogate to our group preferential treatment.
Cheers,
Lawry
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:00
PM
To: Lawrence deBivort; Salvador
Sánchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework]
Unfriendly workplace in the sky
As Pres. Clinton might say it
all depends on what you mean by 'clean up
Well, OK, geographic area. So how do you define a geographic area? How
large? How bounded?
Lawry
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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:12 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: [Futurework]
not be undone but compensating
the victims of those wrongs, which includes direct descendants.
Cheers,
Lawry
From: Cordell, Arthur:
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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005
10:38 AM
To: Lawrence deBivort; Salvador Sánchez;
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:54
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To: Lawrence deBivort; Salvador
Sánchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework]
Unfriendly workplace in the sky
I don't think anyone has mentioned 3rd
world or skin colour but you. As Dr. Freud might say: Hm.
The issue is outsourcing
exploited and
ourselves today exploit.
Lawry
From: Cordell, Arthur:
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:01
PM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM;
Lawrence deBivort; Salvador Sánchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework]
Unfriendly
The EU is admitting 3rd world countries -- which is a fine thing to do --
but that does not transform them into industrial countries. Cypriot PCI and
other economic indicators leave them in 3rd world status, IMHO.
I suppose with the retirement of Raouf Denktash, Turkish Cyprus may follow,
but via
@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky
Lawrence deBivort wrote:
the fact remains that we are moving toward a unified world, and
we should be equally concerned with the well-being of all, and not just
that of those we look alike, or sound alike.
Globalization
Ive been following this matter of
outsourcing airline maintenance carefully. It seems that some of the comments
hide a bias against 3rd world maintenance. But is there really any
reason to think that maintenance performed by El Salvadorans would be inferior
to that performed by US,
I dont know just when it happened,
but some years ago the flight attendants started stating that
they were there to ensure passenger safety, dropping the notion
of service.
But the growing rudeness of the attendants
seem paced by the growing rudeness of the airlines themselves, toward
Greetings to all.
Travels over for a while, I hope.
There are several significant differences between books and
on-line sources that worry me when it comes to actions like UTs.
The process of
publishing a book takes its content through several steps agents,
reviewers,
: Cordell, Arthur:
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005
3:30 PM
To: Lawrence deBivort; Karen
Watters Cole; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Cc: Art Goodtimes (Art Goodtimes);
Jonathan Eddison
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Future
of learning
Agree with you Lawry
Greetings, everyone,
Another book well worth pondering is Clyde
Prestowitzs THREE BILLION NEW CAPILATISTS.
Separately, I will suggest that globalization
is irreversible, but the question is: What kind of globalization? It probably
wont be the kind the US
wants, but the US
is becoming
for assessing
things is effectiveness, shouldn't you be evaluating things on that basis
with a clear and open minded understanding of what is actually going on?
-Original Message-
From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Lawrence deBivort
No one would blame the London police if they had not shot this poor fellow.
Not a soul, except those perhaps who want to embroil the UK in a general war
on the Third World, as they have the US.
What to do now? The US and the UK should stop panicking. They should start
assessing what they have
By Rodney Coates, from another list:
It only took 5 times
rodneyc//05
but he looked like one of
them,
why did he run,
not listen to our commands
just ran,
and we did what we had to do
to protect the nation,
to secure the blessings
of peace and tranquility
for God, Country,
Chris, are you sure that IDF trained the UK police who killed the
electrician? Can you give us a source for that?
Cheers,
Lawry
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:24 PM
To:
I understand that it is easier to point fingers at others than one's self,
Arthur.
With respect,
Lawry
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From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:37 PM
To: Lawrence deBivort; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Cc: Keith Hudson
Subject
Thanks, Karen. I missed the references; my apologies, Chris.
Cheers,
Lawry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:48 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] London Assassins
To: 'Lawrence deBivort'; 'Ed Weick';
futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing
rocks doesn't work any more
Lawry,
I wrote to Ed, then came across your post.
Weve got to stop agreeing like this.
Its probably bad for us.
Harry
***
Henry
Yes, this is what people like Samuel Huntington, Jim Woolsey, Wolfowitz,
Perle, Bolton, Feith, et al would have us believe. Of course it is only true
if we panic and believe them.
Lawry
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Yes, Ed, I think it is clear: violent
resistance to oppressive regimes and policies is spread out over multiple
groups and individuals around the world, for whom religion is either irrelevant
or a tactical asset. There is no centralization, nor places
nor individuals to be destroyed to get
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more
Lawrence deBivort wrote:
in every other country whose government and people don't 'get it.'
I'm not sure what it is. Perhaps someone could enlighten me
Hi, Arthur,
This is a quite remarkable memo. Is it
clear that it is authentic?
Cheers,
Lawry
From:
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Behalf Of Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005
10:12 AM
To: FUTUREWORK (E-mail)
Subject: [Futurework] use of
Except for those of the Palestinians, Native
Americans of north and south America, Iraqis, Afghanis, Darfur Araba, Aceh
inhabitants, Tamils of Sri Lanka, Kashmiris, Kurds, Armenians, Chechnyans, SW
Moroccans, Basques, and others who dont immediately come to mind.
But then, the Bush
Uh, Harry, Nightline has ONLY put American
dead on the air, not those of Iraqis, which is what this discussion is about.
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Behalf Of Harry Pollard
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:16
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To: 'Karen Watters Cole'; 'Keith Hudson'
: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:20
PM
To: 'Lawrence deBivort';
futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Iraqi Body Count (was
More thoughts on the London attacks)
Lawry,
The IBC are a fine a bunch of bleeding heart liberals as one might
find. They are anti-war scientists and researchers. They always have
Harry, you ask if I understand you correctly, for a list of US/Coalition
war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Here is a partial list, off the top of
my head. Please keep in mind that war crimes can be committed, but that the
legal mechanisms for pursuing those responsible have then to confirm the
We've been alarmed for quite a while
There are always forces of control and repression in any society. Those
forces used Sept 11 to get their way on a number of issues that they had
failed to achieve before hand.
The US will need some 20 years to recover internationally from Iraq and the
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Of Christoph Reuss
Sent: Saturday, July 09,
2005 4:32 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: [Futurework] Re: you cant
negotiate with terrorists
Lawrence deBivort wrote:
The
US
and Israeli view
Keith, have you looked as consumer
behavior figures? I am wondering if they might not show a slacking of
consumerism, and thus a fall in demand for products and services.
I am asking this because for the last
couple of years I have been personally turning against having and buying
days and will get back to this theme when I get back.
Cheers,
Lawry
From: Keith Hudson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:09
AM
To: Lawrence deBivort
Cc: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Future
of labor?
Lawry,
At 18:35 22/06/2005
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:09
AM
To: Lawrence deBivort
Cc: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Future
of labor?
Lawry,
At 18:35 22/06/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Greetings, all
A friend sent me an email saying that an Indian member of
parliament
smile Not only had you caught this
Keith, but already had an essay winging its way to us. Well done!
From:
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On Behalf Of Lawrence deBivort
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:22
AM
To: 'Keith Hudson'
Cc: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject
Nonsense, Harry.
You said: You mean the
market simply obeyed the instructions of the people. The people didnt
want the things you think they should want (and would force them to if you
could). You should come to the US
where every possible kind of good is available at the cheapest
PM
To: 'Lawrence deBivort';
'Christoph Reuss'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Re: the
best service at the cheapest price (wasRe:Italy and the Euro)
Lawry, old lad,
Almost always a critique of the free market process uses an example
that is as far from being a market
There are some neocons who believe their own mythology (e.g. Bolton, Hoeber,
Woolsey, Negroponte.) There are other neocons who see it as a handy way of
extending further protections to their favorite political causes (e.g.
Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Cohen) regardless of the cost to the US.
I guess
Chris, do you think that this is why there is resistance to the EU idea in
Europe?
If you scrap off the PR you'll realize that the EU is a regional promoter
of free-fall economic devolution rather than a bulwark against it.
Chris
___
Futurework
Here is a thoughtful essay by Harry Smith:
This is from Harry Smith at
cbsnews.com:
Forget The Social Contract
NEW YORK, May 11, 2005
This column was written by
CBS News Early Show anchor Harry Smith.
--
I guess I'm old enough to
remember the social contract. They
Arthur, I agree with your concern. I just wrote this to the
Organization Development (OD) list. I am trying to galvanize a more active
stance by ODs practitioners because they can have significant impact on
the policies and practices or organizations.
Yes, as Fred points out, the UAL
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:55
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To: Lawrence deBivort; Karen
Watters Cole; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework]
corporate governance: the end of pensions?
It's interesting how promised pensions to workers (flesh
: Cordell, Arthur:
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:02
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Subject: RE: [Futurework]
corporate governance: the end of pensions?
I admire and envy the idealism of your position
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