Re: Logo submission

2003-09-05 Thread Uwe Pross
Hi there,

On 04 Sep 2003 at 21:05:38 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:

 Of course, theoretically this may be a problem, but
 practically...  I can't speak for others, but personally,
 in 95% of cases I either like or not like the artist
 style. But if I like some really best logo in the
 remaining 5%, I will vote for its artist for sure. So I
 see no problem.
 
 Anyway, if you may do it easy for both you to implement
 and voters to choose the best logo in one stage, go for
 it. It seems a lot of work.

I already working on it. My concept is the following  I  got
(for  fairness)  one  page where thumbnails of all logos are
displayed. Actually I am not sure about  the  size  of  this
page  but  it  may  be about 1 Mb. This is quite large but I
don't like to split the page since someone could think logos
on the second page are disadvantaged. This is already done.

Each logo gets a number to identify it. I am going to  group
logos  which belongs obviously together. These logos will be
displayed together on the page,  they  will  have  the  same
number  and  one can only vote them together. These grouping
is the next step to be done. 

From the voting page each logo links to the big size at  the
authors page. - Easy since all is php. 

Each logo/group gets a check button for voting. 

Voting require to insert a email-address in a web form. This
may be done on the voting page itself or an extra page. I am
not sure yet.

To this email-address the web server send a password string,
which  the voter uses to take part on the voting. I not that
sure about the  string  yet.  This  may  be  totally  random
generated or an randomly taken string from a dictionary. The
web server stores the email-address - string combination  to
a file so that it can validate the voter. 

When the voter comes back to the voting page. He is required
to  insert  its  password.  The  web  server  will  check it
together with the email-address. The can make a  new  voting
or changes it existing one. 

I am not sure how the voting information  is  store  at  the
servers  side. Storing it as php source code will be easy to
handle. But it may be done in may  small  files  or  in  one
large file. 

For security purpose I am going to keep the files on another
server as fvwm.org - maybe my university account, maybe
another one.

The bad thing is I am running out of time since the  last  2
september  weeks  I  am going work at another place. Where I
might have limited time and limited access to my  university
account.

Hopefully someone could help me a little bit  out  with  the
scripting. 

 On the related issue, it would be nice to hold a
 competition for the best fvwm art (icons, wallpapers,
 window decorations, menus, complete themes).  We really
 lack good dedicated artists. Probably more than we lack a
 logo.

Well, IMO it depends  where  you  put  the  focus  on  fvwm.
Certainly  there  are  some other wms which have quite fancy
styles and themes. But there is _none_ which is as  flexible
and configurable as fvwm. 

But you are right. Having some really good  fvwm-own-themes,
icons,  wallpapers,  ...  will  make fvwm more interessting.
Besides fvwm-themes, it would might be nice to have complete
tar-archives  which  extracts  to  ~/.fvwm  and give a whole
theme including icons, wallpapers, maybe sounds etc. 

Cheers, Uwe
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CVS malu: Fixed bug when calculating text width in some rare conditions

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Re: FVWM: Icon styles

2003-09-05 Thread Ian
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:23:20PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 05:36:53PM +0200, Ian wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:11:15PM +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
   On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote:

On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
  --- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello all,
 
 
 One of the more notorious for this is Netscape. I'd also be 
 inclined to
 add:
 
 Style *IconOverride

Sorry, that doesn't help :(
   
   Yes, neither this nor
   
 Style ** IconOverride
   
   does not work as one would expect.
   
   You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window,
   i.e.:
   
 Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm
 Style Xpdf  IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm
  
  This doesn't work for me either.
  
  Style JChat*   IconOverride, Icon nedit.xpm
  ^^^
 
 Try it without the stray double quote.

Gee... that worked :)

Thank you all very much.

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Re: FVWM: migrating to Gnome 2.2 (Debian woody backport) but keeping FVWM (2.4.6)

2003-09-05 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:49:27PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
 Do any of you know what's needed to use FVWM 2.4.6 with Gnome 2.2?
 (I'm running the woody (stable) version of Debian GNU/Linux, with 
 the Gnome 2.2 backport to woody.)
 
 The initial problem I'm having is that something in Gnome, apparently
 the file manager, is creating a full-screen windows named Desktop;
 when I lower some other window, it disappears because it gets lowered
 to behind the Desktop window.
 
 Do I want to configure FVWM so the Desktop window is in a lower layer,
 or is there a more general solution?  Are there more things I want to
 fix?


I suggest you use fvwm-2.5.7 or, better, a recent snapshot.

Olivier, Regards
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Re: FVWM: Icon styles

2003-09-05 Thread Ian
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 10:43:28PM +0200, Marcus Lundblad wrote:
  
  Style *   IconSize 32 32
  Style *   IconBackgroundColorset grey60
  Style *   IconBackgroundRelief 3
  Style *   IconBackgroundPadding 0
  Style *   IconTitleRelief 3
  
  However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably,
  java applications.
 
 Applications that supply there own icon window (as opposed to a pixmap or
 bitmap) override IconSize,IconBackground* and IconTitleRelief styles.
 
 I would like to implement IconSize for those icons too (I guess it could
 be done by swallowing the windows, like FvwmButtons does).
 So perhaps in 3.0... :-)

I managed them all to at least comply to the sizes. That's a big win.
However, IconBackgroundRelief and IconBackgroundPadding and stuff I
can't seem to force on all. Some comply, some don't. Seems to me png's
and xpm's that do not have a background of themselves, or are
transparent in certain parts don't take the IconBackgroundColorset and
everything else. Is there any way around this? It would also be nice
if the icon titles wouldn't expand as soon as they get focus. The
titles cover other icons then and makes it hard to click on the other
one if your mouse flies over one that is right next to it.

Thank you for the good work sofar.

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FVWM: Re: [FVWM-Themes] Getting Started with FVWM Themes

2003-09-05 Thread Thomas Adam
 --- Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On 05 Sep 2003 03:38:33 +, David Dickerson wrote:
  
  I added the following line to '.xinitrc':
  
  exec /usr/bin/fvwm-themes-start
  
  This change worked, but I find that I cannott use any
  other window manager. No matter which one I select,
  I end up in FVWM. I hope that your change will resolve
  this issue, Mikhael. (You are the expert, after all.)
 
 I don't know which programs do you use to change the window manager.
 If this program writes ~/.Xclients, then you should obviously remove
 your ~/.xinitrc and manually edit ~/.Xclients as I wrote in the previous
 message.

An understanding of the underlying opeations is a good idea here. I'm not
sure how your system is set-up, David, but if you login to your WM via
xdm/gdm/kdm, etc. then adding that line you have there:

exec $(which fvwm-themes-start)

to ~/.xinitrc, **will have no effect**, since all display managers use
~/.xsession unless of course ~/.xinitrc is a symbolic link to
~/.xsession, but I don't recommend this.

The difference between the two files is that startx reads ~/.xinitrc
and all other display managers read ~/.xsession

  (Today, I printed out ALL of the FVWM documentation; it
  will not fit in the 200-page binder that I bought for the sole
  purpose of holding the FVWM documentation!) :-)
 
 Hmm, I find it a lot more helpful just to run man command (manually or
 from the help menu) when I need something specific. At least I can
 search
 the text using / key.

That, and also the documentation for FVWM is in a constant state of flux
and will always be updating.

  Incidentally, Mikhael, I am using the CDE theme but I cannot
  call up the option to change colors. Is there a certain file that
  I should check to correct this problem? (I will continue perusing
  the documentation.) When I select color, I receive an error
  that nothing has been selected.
 
 What is the exact error you get?

He could be talking about colour pallets here

  I am also trying to add my KDE menu items to FVWM. I will
  continue my research. Oddly, when I had the previous version
  of FVWM installed (and I have the latest increment installed now),
  the KDE and SuSE menu items appeared in FVWM without any
  action by me.
 
 It is possible that the KDE 3 menus are not supported by
 fvwm-menu-desktop, but I don't really know what you try to do.

Depends if he is using EWMH's or not.

  Aso, I want to change the Netscape icon in the CDE panel to
  Mozilla (which I have not yet installed, because I have been
  using Konqueror, which does not like FVWM). I will research
  this issue also.
 
 The CDE theme is not too configurable, ideally you would configure the
 icon and application yourself. The easy way to change this is to edit
 the site wide theme, file themes/cde/modules/buttonbar/large .
 Although I never really suggest to edit the site wide theme, because
 it will be overwritten on the next install.

HTH,

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FVWM: fvwm-3.0: developers thoughts...

2003-09-05 Thread Thomas Adam
Hello All,

I was trauling through the fvwm man page last night, and found reference
to certain things that will be obsolete / included in fvwm-3.0. 

I am just curious to ask the developers how far away they think the
eminent fvwm3 release will be, what they plan to drastically
change/include into it. Will the configurations differ between 2.x.x and
3.x.x do you suppose?

If you feel like having an option for toggling sticky bars across sticky
windows to false/true, that would be a nice idea ;)

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Re: FVWM: fvwm-3.0: developers thoughts...

2003-09-05 Thread Kingsly John
+++ Thomas Adam [2003-09-05 11:34:51]:

 I was trauling through the fvwm man page last night, and found reference
 to certain things that will be obsolete / included in fvwm-3.0. 

If anything is mentioned as will be included in 3.0 it should be read as ..
it won't be implemented in 2.6.0 ;-)

2.6.0 will be the next stable release.. and was/is expected to be out later this
year.

 I am just curious to ask the developers how far away they think the
 eminent fvwm3 release will be, what they plan to drastically
 change/include into it. Will the configurations differ between 2.x.x and
 3.x.x do you suppose?

I think it's a bit too early to have answers for those questions... but
better wait for a developer to respond to that one! (I'm just a bystander!)

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Re: FVWM: fvwm-3.0: developers thoughts...

2003-09-05 Thread Dan Espen
Kingsly John [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 +++ Thomas Adam [2003-09-05 11:34:51]:
 
  I was trauling through the fvwm man page last night, and found reference
  to certain things that will be obsolete / included in fvwm-3.0. 
 
 If anything is mentioned as will be included in 3.0 it should be read as ..
 it won't be implemented in 2.6.0 ;-)
 
 2.6.0 will be the next stable release.. and was/is expected to be out later t
 his
 year.
 
  I am just curious to ask the developers how far away they think the
  eminent fvwm3 release will be, what they plan to drastically
  change/include into it. Will the configurations differ between 2.x.x and
  3.x.x do you suppose?
 
 I think it's a bit too early to have answers for those questions... but
 better wait for a developer to respond to that one! (I'm just a bystander!)

Download the source code, read the todo-3.0 file.

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Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian

2003-09-05 Thread Remko Troncon
   debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not 
 because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally 
 debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least 
 that's the goal, as far as I can say).

That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the development 
version as well, but under a different name (such as they do with a lot
of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM development versions in
Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the only package i still have to
install from source.

cheers,
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Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian

2003-09-05 Thread Paul Smith
%% Remko Troncon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not 
   because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally 
   debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least 
   that's the goal, as far as I can say).

  rt That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the
  rt development version as well, but under a different name (such as
  rt they do with a lot of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM
  rt development versions in Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the
  rt only package i still have to install from source.

Ever tried http://www.apt-get.org ??

Try adding:

  deb http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian stable main
  deb http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian unstable main
  deb-src http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian unstable main

to sources.list.  Note that these aren't all that up-to-date; I think
the version there is still 2.5.6.

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Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian

2003-09-05 Thread Erik Steffl

Remko Troncon wrote:
 debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not 
because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally 
debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least 
that's the goal, as far as I can say).



That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the development 
version as well, but under a different name (such as they do with a lot

of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM development versions in
Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the only package i still have to
install from source.


  that's true. did you try to ask maintainer?

erik


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FVWM: fancy menus

2003-09-05 Thread Emilie Ann Phillips
I was wondering if there is a way to change the style of a menu while it
is open.

The specific application being to have an active style and an inactive
style such that which ever submenu I am currently looking at will be
active and all other open menus inactive

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