Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Dan
At 7:47 PM -0700 10/16/2008, Paul wrote: The Java updates are large, but seem to be incremental, with later updates requiring earlier updates to be installed. hum. Thought they were monolithic. I have other questions about Java: 1. What version should I have on an OS 10.4.11 installation.

Re: Where did the Speed Go?

2008-10-17 Thread Dan
At 11:39 PM -0400 10/16/2008, insightinmind wrote: inhouse-9500:~ billconnelly$ dig www.google.com ;; Query time: 61 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 16 23:36:20 2008 A 61ms dns response is a bit slow. Try this command: dig @4.2.2.1 www.google.com If the time

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:17 AM, Dan wrote: The latest Java for Mac OS X 10.4 is release 7. The actual build is: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_16- b06-275) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_16-132, mixed mode) And for Leopard it's: Java For Mac OS X

Re: SATA On PowerMac G4

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 16, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Simon Royal wrote: My Intel iMac came with a set of grey discs. According to the documentation if you hold the Option key while in an internal or Apple specified external firewire drive it will show two boot options from the one disc. On non Apple

Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal
Dan It should run lovely on a 500DP. With regards to RAM, I know my Intel iMac leapt when I added more RAM. Leopard is a RAM hungry OS. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User

Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal
Paul I am dual booting 10.4 and 10.5. 10.4 runs like a dream, 10.5 is a little sluggish but that is to be expected. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said

Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Simon Royal wrote: My Sawtooth is an AGP graphics model, but it has a 16MB PCI card in it (I bought it like this), I think it is from a BW G3. You need a Radeon card to enable Quartz Extreme. (or equivalent nVidia). It should enable itself without need of any

Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal
Kris My Sawtooth is an AGP graphics model, but it has a 16MB PCI card in it (I bought it like this), I think it is from a BW G3. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group -

Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I have a Sawtooth G4, but someone has put a PCI ATI card in it. I am looking to change it for an AGP card, does anyone know the Apple part number of the actual card that came with it. You don't want the OEM card. It's a Rage, very poorly

Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal
Kris I found a PCI version of the 7000, will this be ok? does it support QE and CI? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so

Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 17, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I found a PCI version of the 7000, will this be ok? does it support QE and CI? I would support QE using PCI Extreme 3.1 but this PCI card isn't a good idea. PCI is HALF as fast as AGPx1, and I think your Sawtooth is an AGPx2 slot, so that

Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal
Hi I have a Sawtooth G4, but someone has put a PCI ATI card in it. I am looking to change it for an AGP card, does anyone know the Apple part number of the actual card that came with it. I have found two so far but not sure which one it is: Apple 630-2906, Apple 630-2992 Simon ---

Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5

2008-10-17 Thread RediG3-5
On Oct 16, 8:36 pm, Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait. If you have the Arrangement tab, and you arrange the two Desktops, then if you can drag the cursor from one Desktop to the other, you've got spanning enabled. Normally you'd only get mirroring, meaning both monitors are

Re: Where did the Speed go -Part two

2008-10-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: Hello, Since I can't add speed to my computer even though I've recently eliminated lots of programs I don't use and followed other suggestions you have sent me, could I do this? Buy a new external HD, start with my installation OS CD and

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Dan
At 2:10 AM -0500 10/17/2008, Kris Tilford wrote: This gets complicated, since these should be identical versions, but differently compiled for Tiger and Leopard. yes. Big disparity growing T vs L... Much of the issue is within Xcode (Apple's development package). In addition to big framework

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:10 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: I don't think that Apple should abandon Panther users so quickly. While 8.75+ years may be slightly excessive time to support an OS, roughly 3 years is too short I think? Sadly, it's not likely. You remember how big a change 10.1 to 10.2

iSub and PMG5... will it work?

2008-10-17 Thread Jeffrey Engle
I hungry for a bit more bass and wonder if an iSub would/will work? adapter? and if so, how will it work/hook up with my current powered sound system? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a

Re: Where did the Speed Go?

2008-10-17 Thread Wilton Shaw
On Oct 12, 2008, at 12:18 AM, Dan wrote: Launch Terminal.app and issue these two commands, then copy the full results and paste 'em into a reply here: dig www.google.com traceroute www.google.com Dan, I launched Terminal,issued the two commands,copied the results

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:19 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 8:56 pm From: Kris Tilford This is all correct I believe, except the OS X update statement you can take your pick when you download, depending on how much updating you want to do. If you've been

Re: Where did the Speed Go?

2008-10-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 17, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: I launched Terminal,issued the two commands,copied the results to my monitor screen, ??? but I can't figure out how to attach it to this email. Copy from terminal, paste into email message. Terminal allows full copy/paste -- Bruce

Re: IGNORE iSub and PMG5... will it work?

2008-10-17 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Found out that the isub won't work with leopard anyway wonder if there's another USB sub that will? hmm... Jeff Any reason you're intent on a USB subwoofer? why not just get a

OT: RAID 0+1 in a Software RAID Environment

2008-10-17 Thread Al Poulin
I know a few of you may have fun weighing in on an interesting proposal and a few implied questions. My son sent this to me, asking for a relay to folks who can help. My Apple Mail was initially set to Helvetica font, so I first copied his message to TextEdit to view the graphic in

Dead iBook G4 1.33 GHz, HDD Spins, DVD starts up but stops,

2008-10-17 Thread Mullin9
I Have an iBook G4 /1.33 (2005) When I press the on/off button. the DVD starts up for only 2 seconds, HDD spins up, but no bong, no beeps. the green light, between F5 and F6 lights up when I press the on/ off button HDD is spinning but the screen remains dark. what's wrong?

Re: Dead iBook G4 1.33 GHz, HDD Spins, DVD starts up but stops,

2008-10-17 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Mullin9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Have an iBook G4 /1.33 (2005) When I press the on/off button. the DVD starts up for only 2 seconds, HDD spins up, but no bong, no beeps. the green light, between F5 and F6 lights up when I press the on/ off button HDD is