Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-13 Thread Dan
At 10:30 PM -0400 8/12/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:09 PM -0400 8/11/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: After an electrical storm today, I plugged everything back in, and I get the old behavior of several kps on Startup, and after a Safeboot, things

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-13 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:30 PM -0400 8/12/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:09 PM -0400 8/11/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: After an electrical storm today, I plugged everything back in, and I get the old behavior of several kps on

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-12 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:09 PM -0400 8/11/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: After an electrical storm today, I plugged everything back in, and I get the old behavior of several kps on Startup, and after a Safeboot, things seem to be ok. Seagate 750GB is not dropping out,

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-11 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:51 PM -0400 8/9/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: 6. Leaving power to monitor and digital keyboard connected / On. Perhaps turning all these off with a dedicated power strip / switch (also a mixer board

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-11 Thread Bill Connelly
I also did a cmd-opt-P-R after several kps on Startup, prior to getting to the {Safeboot, Restart}, because it looked like i was getting one kp after another. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List,

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-10 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:51 PM -0400 8/9/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: 6. Leaving power to monitor and digital keyboard connected / On. Perhaps turning all these off with a dedicated power strip / switch (also a mixer board and amp system) affected the QS's knowledge of

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

2009-08-09 Thread Bill Connelly
Regarding the Seagate 7200.10 dropping out ... Looks like things are working now: 1. using power line with double sockets for the hard drive, single socket one for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro ME 2. put the 750GB Seagate on the lower level of double decker sled 3. using the new 18 IDE cable from

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Charles Lenington
Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Not enough power to run it off the internal power supply? (does a 750GB take more power than a 500GB Seagate?) Try using drive power extensions (probably easier to find splitters) and a

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:15 PM -0400 8/6/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Well it dropped out again. After moving it back from

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Chance Reecher
No, if the drive works fine outside the QS, it is definitely not the drive. It most likely is the ATA bus inside your QS, very likely since you mentioned having problems with cable select. There's a SLIGHT chance it could be power problems, but that's not very likely. Try another drive inside the

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: No, if the drive works fine outside the QS, it is definitely not the drive. It most likely is the ATA bus inside your QS, very likely since you mentioned having problems with cable select. There's a SLIGHT chance it could be power

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Dan wrote: How 'bout internal temp? Could the drive be that much hotter etc? I have the drive mounted on the top level of the double layer sled. Sits directly under the fan. Think this is the coolest position

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Chance Reecher
There is no difference between the cables coming out of your power supply. They all connect at the same place inside it. Currently trying the double ended power cable setup ... so far no drop out ... but ... Is there any difference between the single plug power cable coming out of the

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Dan
At 10:20 AM -0400 8/7/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:15 PM -0400 8/6/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again.

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:20 AM -0400 8/7/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:15 PM -0400 8/6/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Dan
At 2:52 PM -0400 8/7/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: I had started Spotlight again, since I had turned it off to simplify things, but I was getting a message like: Aug 7 10:00:18 Moonstone-Art-Studio /Applications/Utilities/ Console.app/Contents/MacOS/Console[285]: installAutoFSMonitor: open

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Dan wrote: Is everything equal between the two drives - same exact buffering and raw performance? Could be that the newer drive is just able to push data faster, causing the marginal cable to fail. Everything is the same between the 2 Seagate 7200.10 PATA drives

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-06 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:08 AM, trag wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Had this issue before ... wondering if its time

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-06 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Well it dropped out again. After moving it back from an external FW enclosure, it started up with multiple Bus Errors and eventually

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-03 Thread trag
On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Had this issue before ... wondering if its time to get a replacement from Seagate? Its only a year old, with very low use. Used it as an

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-03 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:08 AM, trag wrote: On Aug 1, 2:24 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Had this issue before ... wondering if its time to get a replacement from Seagate? Its only a year

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-02 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/1/09 2:20 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Have you tried putting it back into the firewire enclosure and seeing if it still drops out? That'll tell you if it's the drive or something on your motherboard. Have you tested other drives inside the computer on the same ATA bus as the 750 that is

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-01 Thread PeterH
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: ST3750640A 7200.10 750GB It's a decent series of drives. I believe the HDA unit is the same between ATA (suffix A) and SATA (suffix AS). The logic board is where there is a difference. The 640 indicates the basic model, and I have had

Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again

2009-08-01 Thread Chance Reecher
Have you tried putting it back into the firewire enclosure and seeing if it still drops out? That'll tell you if it's the drive or something on your motherboard. Have you tested other drives inside the computer on the same ATA bus as the 750 that is dropping out? On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:24 PM,