Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-20 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Change machine specific installer requirements Date:Dienstag 20 Juli 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So you have a machine with no media... What are your options? Not just one… I got: - G3 BW

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-19 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: This is a dilemma! One the one hand you may have (get, buy) a PowerPC (also Intel?) Mac. The bad thing about it: it didn't came with the original installation discs; they simply seem to be lost, over the years maybe (like for tons of G4

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-19 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: This is a dilemma! One the one hand you may have (get, buy) a PowerPC (also Intel?) Mac. The bad thing about it: it didn't came with the original installation discs; they simply seem to be lost, over the years maybe (like for tons of

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-19 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Change machine specific installer requirements Date:Montag 19 Juli 2010N From:James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Yes, and despite what some say... I'll betcha that over 50% of Macs running OSX

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-19 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Change machine specific installer requirements Date:Montag 19 Juli 2010N From:John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So according to the computer police if you lost the disks over the years by law you must

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-19 Thread Dan
First -- There is NO dilemma. You must keep in mind the difference between the software LICENSE and the software MEDIA. At 11:32 PM +0200 7/19/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: So according to the computer police if you lost the disks over the years by law you must destroy that orphaned Mac??

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 7/17/10 10:29 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it tells me it can't work on this machine I know the system is all the same but you're stuck

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 18, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 7/17/10 10:29 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it tells me it can't work on this machine

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. Same with Snow Leopard. Since it was compiled as an intel stack it won't run on

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 7/18/10 2:09 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Tiger was compiled to run on PPC only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. Same with Snow Leopard. Since it was compiled as an intel stack it won't run

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 18, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. I believe you meant PPC

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Tiger was compiled to run on PPC only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. However, The first Intel iMacs came pre-installed with Tiger (OS 10.4.4): http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac_cd_1.83_17.html

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Tina K.
Kyle Hansen wrote: Sorry. Mistyped that last one. To follow up on my message, I was thinking of Leopard. Too many felines… Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-18 Thread Dan
At 12:22 PM -0700 7/18/2010, John Carmonne wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel on a MacBook or Mac Mini at ant price? Correct. Apple never released a universal Tiger. The Tiger retail kits are all PPC-only. The early x86 Macs came with machine-specific

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it tells me it can't work on this machine I know

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Amanda Ward
On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 10:33 AM -0700 7/17/2010, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a

[Manager Comment] Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine.

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Tina K.
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:33:17 -0700, John Carmonne wrote: Pirating? I bought and paid for and own this stuff plain and simple. Legally you do not own the software, you have a license to use it within the bounds of Apple's user agreement. Unfortunately Apple's user agreement prohibits using

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. A question - Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? When I buy a used Mac that contains an OS, but not the discs, seller is in violation, right? At what point does hacking your own disc to run on another machine when the first died, ok? By the way - I

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 11:34 AM -0700 7/17/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. No, not probably. IS. Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? Incorrect. Just like they do with all their legacy products -- if they have the kits around, they will sell them. Mostly you have to

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:34 AM -0700 7/17/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. No, not probably. IS. Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? Incorrect. Just like they do with all their legacy products -- if they have the kits

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
John - This would actually stand to reason. Let me flip the question around - All the G4s I see on eBay that come with Leopard. We know that Leopard came well after the G4, and someone put it on recently. If this were no problem, I could just buy up old Panther G4s and add the Leopard feature for

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
is it illegal to put Mac OS X on unsupported machines? For example, If I tricked the OF to install Leopard on a G4 Sawtooth or tricked the OF to install tiger on a Bondi Blue iMac with no firewire, is that illegal? Note: I bought the legit stuff and used it on the machines.  Sent from my

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 1:16 PM -0700 7/17/2010, John Carmonne wrote: When I buy a used Mac that contains an OS, but not the discs, seller is in violation, right? Correct. The seller should have included the original bundled software -- ALL the bundled software, not just the OS. Gee that's funny the Apple

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 5:44 PM -0400 7/17/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: is it illegal to put Mac OS X on unsupported machines? For example, If I tricked the OF to install Leopard on a G4 Sawtooth or tricked the OF to install tiger on a Bondi Blue iMac with no firewire, is that illegal? Note: I bought the legit

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-16 Thread Dennis Myhand
John Carmonne wrote: Hi All Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. I didn't save that post and now I need to fix an image to allow it to work on a machine other than the one it's intended for. Any body know how to do this? It seemed

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-16 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote: John Carmonne wrote: Hi All Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. I didn't save that post and now I need to fix an image to allow it to work on a machine other than the one it's

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:48 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. I didn't save that post and now I need to fix an image to allow it to work on a machine other than the one it's intended for. Any body know how