Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-16 Thread t...@io.com
On Jun 15, 9:23 pm, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor?   If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant.   I don't need slots, but I want dual

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the H word we cannot use here more and more attractive. There's a place for both. Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of performance, I use

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Peter Haas wrote: Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of performance, I use Product M. Where highest performance is required, over comparatively few applications, most of these being mission specific and

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-16 Thread Chance Reecher
Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the H word we cannot use here more and more attractive. There's a place for both. Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-16 Thread Jason Brown
I hope others realize how humorous this Product M and H discussion is :P On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the H word we cannot use here more and more

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Chance Reecher
Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the why bother category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one Firewire port. The 4 USB ports are probably again all the same

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 8:43 AM -0700 6/15/2010, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? sigh. I doubt it. I think we'll see all the ports vanish, when Light Peak comes out. Then we'll be stuck buying expensive adapters. Regretfully, at the rate Apple has been adopting interfaces, the PC world

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread John Martz
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the external device and perhaps the Steve has deemed

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
There are no USB or eSATA or SD or any such ports on the front because they don't look as nice. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also, special firmware can be installed, and which further

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also,

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. And to

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the why bother category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I know alot of the macs don't have peripheral ports in the front, but why not hide them behind a tab or slider like the Dell optiplex series computers or the Hp a418x computer? How about Alienware towers? --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. One

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. A famous quote In my MANY years as a Mac user (since at least the Apple IIcx days, with NO Gates/Windows machines, of ANY TYPE, whether a true Mac or a Mack, I have had three Mac

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Remember, Apple is a software company. The hardware is just the (officially) only way to run the software. That one mad me laugh. No, Microsoft is a software company. Apple is ... well, Apple is whatever it is they are. But

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread t...@io.com
Len Gerstel wrote: The Mini has always been a price point Mac. Yes, compromises are made to hit that point and that is the decision the end user needs to make. Yes, Apple could offer the mini with a 320GB SSD and 8GB of ram, but not at the same price. Does the Mini still have support for

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Chance Reecher
t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I want dual monitor support. Jeff Walther It's had dual monitor support for

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I