Re: Safari 4.0 memory leak

2010-03-16 Thread Ben Dinger
You might check out Shiira, which was recommended in a recent LEM article. It's absolutely fantastic on older macs, and lacks the problems that annoy me (memory leaks specifically) about Safari and Firefox. It's also wicked fast (I love using that term!!) Ben On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:47:03AM

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-21 Thread Dan
At 10:13 AM -0400 6/20/2009, iJohn wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: What inputmanagers, plug-ins, etc have you installed? Does the problem still occur when you eliminate them? bash-3.2# ls -l /Library/InputManagers drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 May

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-20 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/19/09 11:00 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast into the ether: Nope, it means that there's a bug affecting Leo users only... -- Bruce Johnson Yep. And I recommend using Firefox instead of Safari anyway. Security, stability and a host of other reasons. -- Kyle

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-20 Thread iJohn
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote:   What inputmanagers, plug-ins, etc have you installed?  Does the problem still occur when you eliminate them? Does this help? If you see something you think is worth taking the time to try omitting I might try it. But I'm not

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-20 Thread iJohn
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: Think isn't good enough.  Be specific.  Try it.  You're talking about a GMail function failing on two totally different platforms (Safari/WebKit vs Firefox/Gecko), and to be frank, that just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry that

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:41 PM, insightinmind wrote: i don't see it with my Tiger Software update ... This is a strange Apple update. It's Leopard only. Safari 4.0.1 is the official Leopard version, while the official Tiger version is still 4.0. I hope this doesn't mean that Apple is

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 19, 2009, at 12:27 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:41 PM, insightinmind wrote: i don't see it with my Tiger Software update ... This is a strange Apple update. It's Leopard only. Safari 4.0.1 is the official Leopard version, while the official Tiger version is still

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread Dan
At 8:35 PM -0700 6/18/2009, irrational john wrote: A Safari Version 4.0.1 update is now available. Leopard only. was just nibbling away at my gmail inbox and once again cursing how these days only the only the bottom delete button works. Ever since I installed the non-beta Safari 4.0, the top

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:35 PM -0700 6/18/2009, irrational john wrote: Elaborate please - exactly what isn't working?  I've played with just about everything in the GMail web interface and it seems to work quite well with Safari 4.0. When I use

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread Marty Levine
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM, iJohnzjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:35 PM -0700 6/18/2009, irrational john wrote: Elaborate please - exactly what isn't working?  I've played with just about everything in the GMail web

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-19 Thread Dan
At 2:35 PM -0400 6/19/2009, iJohn wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:35 PM -0700 6/18/2009, irrational john wrote: Elaborate please - exactly what isn't working? I've played with just about everything in the GMail web interface and it seems to work

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-18 Thread irrational john
For all of you who had fun when installing Safari 4.0, good news! You can do it again! A Safari Version 4.0.1 update is now available. I don't know how long it's been out there. I was just nibbling away at my gmail inbox and once again cursing how these days only the only the bottom delete

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-18 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:35 PM, irrational john wrote: A Safari Version 4.0.1 update is now available. ... -irrational john i don't see it with my Tiger Software update ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-18 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM, insightinmindbillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:35 PM, irrational john wrote: A Safari Version 4.0.1 update is now available. i don't see it with my Tiger Software update ... My apologies ... I'm not sure if it IS available for Tiger yet.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 1:53 AM -0300 6/15/2009, MaGioZal wrote: On 6/14/09 1:47 PM, tonycd at tonyl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar underlying engine? No... Camino uses the same engine as Firefox, but its interface and some resources are Cocoa-based.

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-14 Thread tonycd
A question for our illuminati: Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar underlying engine? And if so, does that mean they are roughly comparable in speed and overall performance? (Vested interest: I'm not anxious to ditch Camino. I'm used to it, and I like the idea of

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-14 Thread Peter
On Jun 14, 2009, at 12:47 PM, tonycd wrote: A question for our illuminati: Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar underlying engine? And if so, does that mean they are roughly comparable in speed and overall performance? (Vested interest: I'm not anxious to

Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/14/09 1:47 PM, tonycd at tonyl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar underlying engine? No... Camino uses the same engine as Firefox, but its interface and some resources are Cocoa-based. Safari uses the engine of Linux browser Konqueror.

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Dan
At 9:03 PM -0500 6/12/2009, George R. Hozendorf wrote: Is there any way to get the progress bar back in lieu of the rotating wheel? No. The preferences to change this (set with a raw defaults command), that were in the beta, have been removed in this final build. I recommend using Safari's

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Dan
At 10:37 PM -0700 6/12/2009, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: [HTML removed] Take a look at: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/05/23/1747241/ Cache spew isn't relevant to changing the Loading indicator. This cache mess bugs me. I don't understand why Apple would violate their own guidelines, by

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, Well, it is not exactly what George asked for. But, if you like the progress bar, use Firefox and install the fission add-in. I almost always add that add-in, because I like the Safari style progress bar. Good day, Ralph On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:18 -0400, Dan wrote: At 9:03 PM -0500

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Dan
At 12:09 PM -0500 6/13/2009, Ralph Green wrote: Well, it is not exactly what George asked for. But, if you like the progress bar, use Firefox and install the fission add-in. I almost always add that add-in, because I like the Safari style progress bar. ug. Firefox is s slow compared to

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Peter
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:09 PM -0500 6/13/2009, Ralph Green wrote: Well, it is not exactly what George asked for. But, if you like the progress bar, use Firefox and install the fission add-in. I almost always add that add-in, because I like the

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 13, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:09 PM -0500 6/13/2009, Ralph Green wrote: Well, it is not exactly what George asked for. But, if you like the progress bar, use Firefox and install the fission add-in. I almost always add that add-in, because I like the Safari style progress

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread irrational john
On Jun 13, 1:47 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: ug.  Firefox is s slow compared to Safari 4! My experience is that Firefox 3 is much slower in OS X than it is in Windows. In Windows Firefox is still my preferred browser. I don't know what about its implementation might slow Firefox down

Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-13 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/13/09 3:09 PM, insightinmind at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I noticed that, too. And the Firefox Mac interace eats up a sizeable part of display real estate, too, mainly if you're in 1024x768. -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-10 Thread tonycd
Anyone else having the same problem I'm having? Tiger keeps giving me the (seemingly) same Safari updater every time I boot, every day for about the last 2 weeks. 19.1 MB in size, if memory (mine, not my Quicksilver's) serves. I run it, but it keeps coming back anyway. --Tony

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-10 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 10, 2009, at 4:37 PM, tonycd wrote: Anyone else having the same problem I'm having? Tiger keeps giving me the (seemingly) same Safari updater every time I boot, every day for about the last 2 weeks. 19.1 MB in size, if memory (mine, not my Quicksilver's) serves. I run it, but it keeps

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-10 Thread Paul
I think I'm going to stick with Firefox for the time being, and wait for the inevitable updates to Safari 4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs -

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-10 Thread Peter
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 10, 2009, at 4:37 PM, tonycd wrote: Anyone else having the same problem I'm having? Tiger keeps giving me the (seemingly) same Safari updater every time I boot, every day for about the last 2 weeks. 19.1 MB in

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote: Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled back. But the ones that are left seem immutable hum. Is it just me or is the tabs bar now darker? Dark background with small black text... VERY difficult to read! :( - Dan. -- -

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Dan wrote: At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote: Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled back. But the ones that are left seem immutable hum. Is it just me or is the tabs bar now darker? Dark background with small black text... VERY difficult to read! :(

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Trinette Rani Johnson
I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple! It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:39 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: Dan wrote: At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote:

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Trinette Rani Johnson wrote: I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple! It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. It's likely there's no relation between your

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Trinette Rani Johnson wrote: I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple! It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. What I can't understand is why people rush off to get the latest 'n greates