Re: back up generator question

2010-11-07 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Nov 2, 7:04 am, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: you absolutely MUST have a high quality UPS I have a APC UPS before our wifi antenna and router AND another APC UPS before my mini and external drives so I'm hearing that I should be OK.  will you put the generator outside and run an

Re: back up generator question

2010-11-07 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Nov 7, 6:07 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: That's the plan exactly. Not ideal but could work for short outages. P.S. I bought this small generator with the intention of powering electric tools in the field. Mostly, I want to power a pneumatic pole chain saw so that I can

Re: back up generator question

2010-11-02 Thread ah...clem
we live in a rural area, and power outages occasionally last for days. we have a generator for such situations, and i run all sorts of electronics on them. BUT, you absolutely MUST have a high quality UPS on any sensitive electronics, or you risk catastrophic failure. the output of that

Re: back up generator question

2010-11-02 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I believe a transfer switch is a requirement per the National Electric Code if you want to hook up a generator directly the your home mains. If anyone goes wrong you could be CRIMINALLY LIABLE, not only for causing a potential electrical fire, but to damage the power grid. I suggest you consult

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. It's unlikely your PM

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Oct 31, 2:40 am, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Doug McNutt
At 21:29 -0400 10/30/10, Kevin Barth wrote: All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square Wave-producing generators may power lights and freezers just fine, but they will not work well with

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 21:29 -0400 10/30/10, Kevin Barth wrote: All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square Wave-producing generators may power lights and

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread James Pritchett
If the output is a sine wave the computer will like it. But if the output is a square wave of modified square wave like from the low end power inverters some electronic freak out or crash or never takeoff like electric motors. Start the generator and test the devices you want to use with it, you

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Jonas Lopez
NONSENSE - what you have will work just fine -- you do NOT need anything else. Done this for years!. JML. --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com Subject: Re: back up generator question To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Oct 29, 1:51 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: Your choice of generator looks OK, but the power rating it provides would probably be a little low for this application. not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Kevin Barth
And do you have the same generator he does? Or are you familiar enough with the output of the generator he has to make the claim? All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square Wave-producing

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Daggett Ken
On 30 Oct 2010, at 17:48:13 PDT, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Kevin Barth
not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? Well under 800 Watts. Depends on what you are using for a monitor, of course. Per Apple, Mac Mini (without monitor) uses 85-110 Watts.

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-30 Thread Amanda Ward
Hey Cliff... On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators

back up generator question

2010-10-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html in hopes of having back up power to run our WiFi ISP

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-29 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
You'll probably want to purchase a UPS and a transfer switch as well. http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=165#anchor1 http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=371 You'll also want to make sure that your power is clean from transient surges, so a UPS would be a good thing to