Re: Sawtooth/Tiger boot problems
Removed new video card and reinstalled old one - immediate problem solved. No booting problems. OS 9 problem (see below) has changed from Login Error forcing a restart to "Application Login has quit unexpectedly" with no apparent ill effect. Each of the panics in this log show the crash occurred in the driver for your video card. Either the card is foo, or it's not seated properly, or Yes, thanks - sometimes it takes asking a stupid question to open one's eyes. After posting the panic log, I saw the obvious that I'd missed. Details, or are they secret? And after such "major upgrading" did you reset your PMU? Yes, I reset the PMU after all the new stuff ( GeForce 5200 FX video card, USB 2.0 card, Sonnet SATA card and factory recertified Seagate SATA 7200 RPM, 750 GB HD, Sonnet ST/G4 1.0 GHz CPU) had been installed and before starting up for the first time after the upgrade. Yes, spreading the information around across multiple threads makes problems so much easier to solve. Seriously - please provide ALL the information in ONE thread. Don't waste people's time, making us sort thru the hundreds of threads on G3-5 to locate your particulars. I get your point, Dan, but you misunderstand - perhaps you overlooked my term "another sense." This thread was intended to be about one particular problem. What I didn't want to waste anyone's time with was an overly detailed description of the upgrade. I wanted to share the whole upgrade experience in another thread, to invite comment and much less urgently needed answers there. I didn't know positively (then) that the boot problem could be pinned on any part of the upgrade, but I had to *mention* "major upgrading" as a possibly relevant detail. If I had known precisely *how* it was relevant, I wouldn't have posted anything about the trouble without first reinstalling the old video card. You have to re-select the boot volume each time? That means the startup disk isn't being stored in the pram properly. Try replacing your PRAM Battery. Reinstalling the old video card and having Tiger boot up as it should from the get-go would seem to indicate - now - that the startup disk is being stored in the PRAM just fine. I do have fresh - or at least new - PRAM batteries on hand, however. The problem started (after the first couple uneventful and successful boots from PATA HD with SATA connected but unformatted) with gray screens after brief blue and before the startup window appeared. The very first sign of any trouble anywhere was that after booting normally for the first time into OS 9.2.2 and logging in, I got a Login Error (error 10) requiring restart. I clicked on Restart, the button went black - and just stayed that way. I continued to work in OS 9, installing USB & FireWire drivers from an OHS CD, and the error window just went away eventually. After selecting Restart in OS 9 from the Special menu, normal booting was over. The following procedure worked for a while: Power on, zap PRAM Hold down option key (gray screen - or blue screen with eventual kernel panic message - again otherwise) With main Tiger volume "preselected' in the array of volumes, click on arrow When this magic failed (zapping PRAM became ineffectual) after a few successes (got into Tiger and everything was fine there - OS 9 still gave the Login Error message, which was now fatal), the procedure became "boot twice to boot once": Power on, hold down option key Hold down shift key and then click arrow for "preselected" Tiger volume After Safe Boot into Tiger and login, restart (didn't matter how, whether through Apple menu or SP>Startup Disk) Hold down option key (still necessary), etc., without the Safe Boot (blue screen, brief gray screen, screen goes black, then normal Tiger wakes up and is back in business) I am trying to recall what I tried or changed over the course of things going from bad to worse. Either in normal unsafe Tiger or booted from the Tiger install CD, I formatted and partitioned the new SATA drive with Disk Utility. I CCD'd all my volumes (all partitions within the first 128 GB) from the PATA HD to the SATA (all partitions within the first 128 GB). During the relatively brief Age of PRAM- Zapping, I was careful to run the enable-lba48 patch each time I got back in after a zap, and saw that it was applied even after the abnormal restarts (the outer partition "free space" volume on the PATA would reappear on the desktop - the appearance of the SATA free space volume was never affected). I booted into pre-upgrade reinstalled more-basic Panther (through one of the same special procedures as above) and played around with getting it to work (like Tiger and OS 9 do) with the Gig-E ethernet card both before and after updating to 10.3.9 - still no go there, only connects with built-in ethernet despite supposedly correct drivers and appar
Re: DHCP Server??
Thanks for the links... they look helpful, I'll try messing around some more this weekend and get back to you. I am running OS 10.5.8 and Xcode 3.0, gcc is 4.01, make is 3.81. Thanks, Dan On Feb 15, 10:55 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > I just downloaded dhcp-4.2.0-P2 and it compiled without a hitch under 10.6.6. > I believe I have the Developer Tools installed on my laptop running 10.5 so > I'll see if I can compile it there later (it's at home) > > There are mentions in the release notes about 'fixes to compilation in OS X > 10.5' > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Drive upgrade
At 3:35 PM -0800 2/14/2011, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Dan wrote: >> This is the box I have It states a 2TB capacity but maybe the specs were written before the larger HDD's were readily available? And as you said it appears no drivers needed. http://www.acomdata.com/app/stx.productdetail.asp?did=48 > Nice box. The specs and googling around don't say what type of interface it uses internally. Should be SATA, but it could be anything really. You could write to them and ask. Or open the case and see what the existing drives are, then buy drives with the same type of interface and try 'em... They are Hitachi 1TB SATA I opened them to lube the screeching fans and kick out the dust Bunnies and started thinking how nice it would be to install two 2TB HDD's and sell the 1TB's instead of buying new 4TB boxes. Meritline had a great deal on SATA Hitachi's recently. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
On Feb 16, 2011, at 9:07 AM, smac0031 wrote: If I am not mistaken, this DVR was at one time oem from Apple. If it is, then I had the same problem. I got mine from OWC. Mine wouldn't burn CD's but it would read CD's and DVD's. Anyway, I wound up replacing it. Fortunately, they are cheap. Perhaps this is a simple mistake? There are TWO Pioneer optical drives, one called a DVD-115 which is NOT a recorder, it's simply a combo playback drive; and the other called a DVR-115 which IS a recorder for both CDs and DVDs. The difference in that one single letter, a "D" or an "R" makes all the difference. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
> If I am not mistaken, this DVR was at one time oem from Apple. If it > is, then I had the same problem. I got mine from OWC. Mine wouldn't > burn CD's but it would read CD's and DVD's. Anyway, I wound up > replacing it. Fortunately, they are cheap. Apple has used a variety of Pioneer drives. The earliest which offered DVD burning was the dreaded DVR-108. I believe it was DVD-R, only. Anyway, it could NOT burn a DVD+R, and I believe it could not read one, either. Perhaps the later ones were DVD+/-R. Only the latest were DVD+/-DL. As usual Apple asks for and get certain OEM features, such as elimination of the tray front, elimination of the electrical open/close button, elimination of the manual open hole, etcetera. Also, sometimes the burners are arbitrarily restricted to lower burning speeds, as Apple prefers to release drives with lower speeds when they have only "qualified" lower-speed media. The bottom line is DVD drives are a commodity item, and even the likes of Sony, Pioneer and Panasonic cannot afford to build them in Japan, rather they have been seeking Lite-On and other Korean and/or China drives to brand as their own. If you need an IDE drive, Lite-Ons are very good, and these have an easily removable tray front, for those installations which require no front. If you need a SATA drive, Lite-Ons, Samsungs and a few others are quite good. I have burned perhaps a thousand or more DVDs, including both DVD-5s and DVD-9s on some of my SATA burners, and so far none have failed. And all of this from a $20 drive. Incredible! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
If I am not mistaken, this DVR was at one time oem from Apple. If it is, then I had the same problem. I got mine from OWC. Mine wouldn't burn CD's but it would read CD's and DVD's. Anyway, I wound up replacing it. Fortunately, they are cheap. Mark Murphy On Feb 13, 7:46 pm, Norm Rowe wrote: > I have a Pioneer DVR 115 which suddenly will not burn CD or DVD's. I have > checked cables and cleaned with a cleaning disk. OS 10.5.8 on a G4 with 2 meg > of ram and 1gig sonnet processor. First noticed when burn a play-list from > iTunes 10.0.2. > Norm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Drive upgrade
On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Dan wrote: >> >> This is the box I have It states a 2TB capacity but maybe the specs were >> written before the larger HDD's were readily available? And as you said it >> appears no drivers needed. >> http://www.acomdata.com/app/stx.productdetail.asp?did=48 > > Nice box. The specs and googling around don't say what type of interface it > uses internally. Should be SATA, but it could be anything really. You could > write to them and ask. Or open the case and see what the existing drives > are, then buy drives with the same type of interface and try 'em... > > - Dan. > -- They are Hitachi 1TB SATA I opened them to lube the screeching fans and kick out the dust Bunnies and started thinking how nice it would be to install two 2TB HDD's and sell the 1TB's instead of buying new 4TB boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
Thanks Peter. That was my default conclusion, just hoping I'd missed something. - Peter - Original Message - From: peterh...@cruzio.com > I have a 112D which replaced one that lasted about 6 mos. After 3 or 4 > years of occasional use, it now won't burn CDs, but handles DVDs just fine > and will read CDs and DVDs fine. I've burned at least 50 DVDs since then > with zero coasters. I had never had problems with this 100 pack of TDK CDs > before then. CD burns failed from both iTunes and Toast and I tried > several. I seem to remember the error stating it didn't recognize the > media or some such. CDs ans DVDs use a different wavelength laser. It is possible, even likely, that CD writing has failed, whereas DVD reading is still OK. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list