Re: Anyone using Beige G3's much anymore
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:07:20 -0400 From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Gukumatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm still using my beige 300mhz regularly, [...] Uses of the trusty beast include:- [...] video recording using the personality card, I recode the footage on a different machine, These were and are my key questions: What software do you use for video capture? What quality capture does the personality card allow? What video format(s) does it produce? What bit rate(s)? Do you need or use any special hardware? If you can point me to any good web pages that answer these questions, that's as good as a direct answer. - Aaron [...] An iOmega Buzz is about the right era for the machine. Video will be small though. But better than none. You can take in audio too and use the video editor to redirect the format. Or you may get it to work with freeware audacity. My interest in using my Beige G3 for video capture flows from its having the personality card. It's been a while since I've used the machine, but the card in it is the best of the variants. (Is it called Wings?) My questions were all about what I could accomplish with that card. An old version of Adobe Premiere 5.1c will do for editing video. Should be cheap. I have access to plenty of video editing software. But I don't know what format the personality card outputs, so I don't know which conversion and editing programs will work with it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading PM G5 with DVD-RW
I have that model G5, it doesn't use a 'carrier'; it use 4 special screws in the bottom holes. The oversize head of these screws slides into the G5's drive bay clips. Just swap the screws from the stock drive. I use a Sony Q28A which is recognized as an Apple-shipped SuperDrive. On Sep 5, 11:28 pm, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 5, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I googled up the instructions for installing optical drives in the Late 2004 G5, and found that special screws/standoffs were needed depending on the model of Superdrive. So will my el-cheapo burner mount in the G5 with the existing screws? If it has a combo drive in it now, chances are it will have the special screws on the bottom side of it. All 1-5/8 tall (so-called half-height) optical drives have a standardized physical interface. Four M3-0.5 screws in the bottom, for bottom-retained drives, four M3-0.5 screws in the sides, for side-retained drives. Just transfer your existing carrier and screws to your new drive. The power and data connections are also standardized. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Which OS X on eMac 700
I just acquired a eMac 700 to my Mac family and was wondering which version of OS X is best for it? Should I go for 10.5 or stick with 10.4? It only has a 32mb Nvidia card which means some features of 10.5 will not work anyway. Any thoughts? Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Solid State Laptop Drives
On Sep 4, 4:17 pm, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I was looking on eBay and stumbled across solid state laptop hard drives. How much difference would they make to a laptops speed? Can they be fitted to any laptop or are they only SATA? I couldn't find any IDE ones. Simon I don't know how relevant this is but I think it is interesting. Cyberguys offers adapter cards that convert CF cards to either ata or sata so you could plug them into a computer to function exactly as a drive (pn 168 0201 and 168 0202). They connect to the standard internal drive connectors. I guess you could replace the internal drive of a MacBook with the sata version of one. But it would have small capacity and be slow. Of course, Compact Flash cards aren't as much used as they were and are not as cheap as SD cards in large sizes. Such a device that would accept SDHC cards could be VERY useful. These are the ones starting to be used in camcorders to replace tape, drives or DVD recording. They can have large capacity, are very fast and above all are amazingly cheap. I paid less than $30 for an 8 gig card for my Lumix camera. I paid less than $10 for a compatible card reader. Solid state memory will certainly replace mechanical methods in every application. It's cheaper, smaller and more releable. Maybe soon. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Which OS X on eMac 700
At 3:37 PM +0100 9/6/08, Simon Royal posted: Or you could stick with 10.4 which will rocket along with at least 512MB of RAM. Agreed. Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hack for Leopard install?
On Sep 6, 11:21 am, Dana Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I know this topic elicited much response/discussion in the past, but now I have reasons to pay attention. I seem to recall that there was a hack developed that removed the hardware restriction dictated by an install of Leopard (on a machine that was less than the required G4/867MHz or that had a 3rd party PU upgrade), Does this ring a bell with anyone. I had thought I kept the pertinent links but of course can't find them when needed. Many thanks for the insight. Best regards, Dana P.S. The Leopard discs in question are full retail installs of OS 10.5.1 (not an upgrade-only DVD) Hello again, I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html If you know of other info, please let me know. Thank you much, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hack for Leopard install?
On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Dana Collins wrote: On Sep 6, 11:21 am, Dana Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I know this topic elicited much response/discussion in the past, but now I have reasons to pay attention. I seem to recall that there was a hack developed that removed the hardware restriction dictated by an install of Leopard (on a machine that was less than the required G4/867MHz or that had a 3rd party PU upgrade), Hello again, I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html If you know of other info, please let me know. Thank you much, Dana What other info do you need? That is the full set of instructions required to install Leopard, 10.5, on a Mac under 867MHz that meets the other requirements (ram, HD space and I assume firewire since that was required for 10.4 but I do not know if 10.5 checks for firewire) Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which OS X on eMac 700
Sam Rubbish. 10.4 runs prefectly well on a G3 nevermind a 700mhz G4. Admittedly 10.5 would struggle a bit, but max the RAM and it would be usuable. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Which OS X on eMac 700 From: Sam Macomber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/09/2008 16:32 no 10.5 10.4 is slow enough on it ;)(writing this on an eMac 700 w/ OS 10.4) could use a gig of RAM, but not worth it to put any more money into the machine at this point. wait and get a new one in a year or two. I just acquired a eMac 700 to my Mac family and was wondering which version of OS X is best for it? Should I go for 10.5 or stick with 10.4? It only has a 32mb Nvidia card which means some features of 10.5 will not work anyway. Any thoughts? Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hack for Leopard install?
On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Dana Collins wrote: I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html If you know of other info, please let me know. Thank you much, Back on December 20, 2007, I posted the following on this List: For those who still wish to install Leopard on Sub-867 MHz Macs, here is an easier way for accomplishing this: http://www.mac.profusehost.net/leopardassist/ LeopardAssist is a free download. Fabian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hack for Leopard install?
On Sep 6, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dana Collins wrote: To clarify, this was the first experiment/attempt at booting Leopard and what I anticipated was an unsupported machine. Hence, i may have more success on my other upgraded G4s. This unit in question is a G4 Yikes (PCI Graphics) Bingo! I forgot the AGP (or better) requirement. being run by a Sonnet Encore ZIF G4/1GHz CPU w/ 1Gig RAM. When I boot off of the Install DVD, I get nothing but a dark screen, which, if left alone, will eventually be ignored and the unit will boot into its normal OS Tiger operating system. I suspect that, for reasons other than the CPU concern, this machine may not be supported (for this reason, your comment If you have a processor card upgrade, greater than 800MHz, the hack is not required I found most interesting. My other machines are a Sawtooth with a G4/1GHz upgrade, and a DA with a G4 1.5GHz upgrade - I suspect these machines will be more successful and compatible with Leopard anyway. Thank you much, I have run Leopard on my DA with both a 933MHz QS processor and an OWC dual 1.2GHz processor. It ran fine with the 933, but I am a big fan of dual processors. The upgraded video (a hacked 128MB Radeon 9600 from a G5) card I am sure helped with all the eye candy. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hack for Leopard install?
On Sep 6, 12:40 pm, Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 6, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dana Collins wrote: To clarify, this was the first experiment/attempt at booting Leopard and what I anticipated was an unsupported machine. Hence, i may have more success on my other upgraded G4s. This unit in question is a G4 Yikes (PCI Graphics) Bingo! I forgot the AGP (or better) requirement. (snip) I have run Leopard on my DA with both a 933MHz QS processor and an OWC dual 1.2GHz processor. It ran fine with the 933, but I am a big fan of dual processors. The upgraded video (a hacked 128MB Radeon 9600 from a G5) card I am sure helped with all the eye candy. Len Hi Len, Well, there we go! Looks like the Yikes can stay right where it's at, and I'll tackle the other two. Thank you for the responses, Len. If any one knows DA's, it's you! Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Hard drive?
Dennis. The drives in both PC and Mac are the same, it is the physical formatting and partitioning that makes the difference. Windows uses FAT32 and NTFS, while Mac OSX uses HFS+. Apple use a lot of Seagate and Western Digital drives, but any IDE will work in both. However using the IDE bus on a Sawtooth limits you to 128GB. To go higher you will need a PCI ATA controller. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Hard drive? From: Dennis Myhand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/09/2008 21:40 I am putting together a G-4. A Sawtooth to be exact. I have access to a number of hard drives to use. An IDE interface is what I will end up using. My question is, will any IDE drive work (less that 120 gigs)? Or, do I need one specific to a Mac? I am moving from the PC world into Macs. Will the disk utilities take care of the formatting and drive setup or do I need something originally built for Macs? Thanks, Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive?
Simon Royal wrote: Dennis. The drives in both PC and Mac are the same, it is the physical formatting and partitioning that makes the difference. Windows uses FAT32 and NTFS, while Mac OSX uses HFS+. Apple use a lot of Seagate and Western Digital drives, but any IDE will work in both. However using the IDE bus on a Sawtooth limits you to 128GB. To go higher you will need a PCI ATA controller. Simon Cool. Thanks to all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Simon Royal wrote: The drives in both PC and Mac are the same, it is the physical formatting and partitioning that makes the difference. Windows uses FAT32 and NTFS, while Mac OSX uses HFS+. Macs can support FAT-formatted drives, and have been able to do so for a decade. FAT is not a native Mac format, however, and it is provided for convenience in data interchange between Macs and PCs. The partitioning scheme and the data organization can be different. You can have HFS+ partitions on drives which are APM-partitioned (PPC Macs), GUID-partitioned (Intel Macs, but also some Hackintoshes), and also MBR-partitioned (primarily Hackintoshes). Apple use a lot of Seagate and Western Digital drives, but any IDE will work in both. However using the IDE bus on a Sawtooth limits you to 128GB. To go higher you will need a PCI ATA controller. Only UATA/133 cards (and some UATA/100 cards for which the manufacturer has provided updated firmware) implicitly provide for greater than 131,072 MB drives. Some G4s can respond to a special NVRAM property which allows for LBA48 (large drives), otherwise LBA24 is used. LBA48 is really a special variation of the IDE protocol wherein the logical block number is sent to the drive in two parts, each of these being 24 bits. All large drives are aware of this new LBA48 protocol, whereas it is the host adapter (PCI card), or the Mac (IDE buses), which may, or may not support this protocol. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Warning about Some LEM Folks
On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: If you are perceived as rude by a lister they amy send a copy to the Nannie. Nannies work free. And they are understaffed and overworked. New ones were added last year after a mass walk out when list regulations about such things as top posting were dropped. Please realize the Nannies get little thanks and fill in when they can sometimes overnight. they may be missing a lot of sleep. We depend on them to keep things civilized. So knowing the rules and doing your best to follow them will help the Nannies and everyone else. It is hard to know who the Nannies are anymore. Guess I will have to look for a list. Sometimes they seem like just regular listers. and join in the threads. And if someone gives you a hard time it is better to just gut it out and keep it offlist as much as possible. And you are free to forward the worst to the Nannies also. All in all, LEM is the place to be for civilized support. Thank you for your kind words from myself and all the other Nannies and Dan, the list Mom. The Nannies for each list are posted on that list's information page under Who oversees the ___ List A full list of all the LEM lists is at: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ Yes, the Nannies are active on most of the lists that each one oversees. We care about the topic, that is why we volunteered for that list and add what we can when we can. If you ever need a Nanny, please do not hesitate to send a message to the group asking for a list nanny to contact you. Thanks to all the members for making the LEM lists successful. Len Gerstel List Nanny G3-5, PCI and LEM lists --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
PowerPC games anyone?
I'm in the process of acquiring of a Powermac G5 DP, which will be used primarily as a home server, and hence won't have much load. As long as I'm acquiring such a fine piece of PowerPC hardware, it occurred to me it might run games better than my old Sawtooth or single-core G5. Does anyone care to recommend any good RPG's or strategy games for PowerPC (OS X)? It seems that everything interesting coming out these days is Intel-only, so I'm restricted to playing the latest and greatest on my Intel iMac. It'd also be fun if I could install said game on Intel and PPC hardware, so I could invite a friend or two over to play head-to-head. I have Neverwinter Nights 1, and it ran poorly on all the old hardware I had, including Sawtooth, Quicksilver and single-core G5. I suspect that was partly due to the small amount of RAM I had (512 MB.) Will it run better on a dual-core G5 with a decent graphics card (Radeon 9700 Pro)? Thanks, Eric --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Warning about Some LEM Folks
If you are perceived as rude by a lister, they may send a copy to the Nannie. The Nannies for each list are posted on that list's information page under Who oversees the ___ List As of last November: LEMlistsAmber Robey and Malcolm Cornelius LEM SwapBeverly Woods, Kyle Hansen, Paul Stamsen, and Amber Robey System 6Marten van de Kraats Mac OS 9 Paul Stamsen and Fabian Fang Unsupported OS XDan Knight PumaDan Knight JaguarLaurent Daudelin Panther Laurent Daudelin TigerLaurent Daudelin and Fabian Fang LeopardLaurent Daudelin and Malcolm Cornelius MaXEd Gibsons Mac CanadaDan Knight Mac UKMalcolm Cornelius and Stuart Bell Outback MacDan Knight MichiMacDan Auerbach 1st PowerMacsTim Gochnour Compact Macs(defunct) G-BooksBeverly Woods, Laurent Daudelin, Amber Robey, Paul Stamsen and Kyle Hansen G4 'BooksLaurent Daudelin and Malcolm Cornelius G-List(G3-5)Fabian Fang, Len Gerstel, Tim Collier, and Kyle Hansen iMacAmber Robey, Beverly Woods, and Ed Gibsons MacBookAmber Robery, Chad Swarthout, and Paul Stamsen MacintelAmber Robery, Laurent Daudelin, and Fabian Fang Mac miniMalcolm Cornelius Mac ProMalcolm Cornelius ModbookDan Knight Old Mac MPDan Knight PCI PowerMacsLen Gerstel, Paul Stamsen, and Tim Gochnour PowerBooksBeverly Woods and Malcolm Cornelius PowerMacs(defunct) Quadlist(defunct) Rocketeer(Radius Rocket)Dan Knight Vintage MacsMarten van de Kraats, Stuart Bell, and Paul Stamsen PowerlistDan Knight StarMax SuperMacsDan Auerbach and Ed Gibsons Mac NetworkDan Knight MacToMac(Mac2Mac)Andrew Michael MacTao MacInSchool(defunct) Mac-n-DOSDan Knight Mac VideoAmber Robey Mac WebmastersDan Knight Replacing Claris Home PageDan Knight Apple2listDan Knight Apple TVEd Gibson, Paul Stamsen, and Malcolm Cornelius iPhoneDan Auerbach, Paul Stamsen, and Malcolm Cornelius iPodPaul Stamsen and Malcolm Cornelius LisaListDan Auerbach NewtonListLaurent Daudelin Amber Robey Andrew Michael MacTao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beverly Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chad Swarthout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Knight[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Gibsons Fabian Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Malcolm Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marten van de Kraats Paul Stamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim Collier Tim Gochnour [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
burning a DVD-R-W
When you burn a DVD -R-W: 1. Can you delete stuff you have burned on it? Or is it there forever? 2. Can you amend files and text on the DVD? 3. Should I put a variety of programs on a DVD (such as games, utilities, downloaded/bought software) or stick to one kind? Thanks for answering! Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive?
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: Gotcha: I am unsure whether a 160+ will format into a usable 120 in your Mac, or whether this would have to be done first in a later Mac with large drive support. I suspect you can, but I haven't tried it myself. Put a 500 GB on a Mac which doesn't support large drives and it shows up as 128 GB. The LBA48 property is easy to add to many G4s, and is unnecessary on anything made including and after the QS 2002. The High Cap kext is another route, and it works back to the G3s, for which the LBA48 property probably doesn't exist. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
