I was just given a G4 733 tower
Hi all i was just given a working G4 system that was set up for Final cut video production but the DVR/DVD burner which is a Pioneer bran is not reading the CD or disk or burning anything. I tried to replaced with a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 it works for all but the burning the error said it can used this hardware or can not identify hardware.. this sounds like a driver error but I worked with drive and part that have the Apple logo when i worked at Apple on the like as a Re-work tech on the line and this model came out just aftr i left in mid -2000 so i not had much time with this type system as we never had fans on the heat sink of any of the G4 system I worked on so i taking this system need that extra cooling this system is running OS 9.2.2 as i updated the OS its has only 256 megs of ram(PC133) and 2 video cards the Nvidia 32 meg and a Matrox 32 meg and has Final cut and ton of other software for video production and the second keyboard for running the edit and cuts and all. The person that gave it to me paid $7K for it from BH video they sell pro video equipment and they sold this system to my friend some time back. I need to know what model DVD -RW will work to replace and what updates can be done to the sytem that would make it ready to do video again (the DVD burner is one of those things) The tower has been sitting unused for bit but is in great shape still runs nice and fast for an OS 9 system and the case is in very great shape as well (I always love this tower design it was the best ) the Final cut version is 2 it has some other software for cuts and wipes and fonts and all for TV out put but no HD i feel can be done unless we update the video cards and CPU I would think. Ok well if any one has info on why the DVD i have won't work and how I can make it work or what one will work PLEASE let me know Thanks CC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard-modest networking issue on a .local cluster
Hi all, I know there are some networking gurus on this list - perhaps what I am about to explain sounds familiar and you can point me or my helper in the right direction. I'm on sabbatical so my student administrator assistant is in charge of the music lab (a cluster of G5s running the same software, recently upgraded to Leopard 10.5.4). Here's the deal: all stations have two accounts: administrator and student. Obviously all students log in as student. All the student accounts have the same password, and are shared, i.e. file sharing is a normal daily operation. A student on station 2 can, in the Finder, go to Goconnect to serverlist of .local stations and choose which station volume they wish to mount. the password is asked for to connect to Station X, and they type in the common password. Recently my helper notified me of the following: (quote) The lab is settling down and mostly working now. However, when students try to connect to another station, it says that x (the password) is an invalid password. Is there a new password that I'm aware of, or is something else wrong? I had her log in as administrator and re-enter/refresh the student password on the ailing stations but that did not seem to work (according to a follow-up). Any pointers I can share from a distance for my helper to try? Many thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I was just given a G4 733 tower
On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:21 AM, CCorsair wrote: I need to know what model DVD -RW will work to replace and what updates can be done to the sytem that would make it ready to do video again (the DVD burner is one of those things) Any of the later Pioneer drives is good: DVR-109 (which you already have), DVR-110, DVR-111. Under OS X (which you say you don't run) all of the above can be supported using PatchBurn, or, depending upon which version of OS X you may have in the future, they will be seen as Apple Supplied/ Supported. The first SuperDrives were DVR-104s, and those were not DL. Also, those were - only, and couldn't write, much less read +. The 109s and later will read and write just about everything, certainly including + and -, and SL and DL, and some can read and write DVD-RAM, but some can only read DVD-RAM. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I was just given a G4 733 tower
On 9/24/08, PeterH wrote: Any of the later Pioneer drives is good: DVR-109 (which you already have), DVR-110, DVR-111. Under OS X (which you say you don't run) all of the above can be supported using PatchBurn, or, depending upon which version of OS X you may have in the future, they will be seen as Apple Supplied/Supported. The first SuperDrives were DVR-104s, and those were not DL. Also, those were - only, and couldn't write, much less read +. The 109s and later will read and write just about everything, certainly including + and -, and SL and DL, and some can read and write DVD-RAM, but some can only read DVD-RAM. Peter, where does the DVR-112D stand in this regard for a MDD DP 1.25? . . . . . . . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I was just given a G4 733 tower
On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, where does the DVR-112D stand in this regard for a MDD DP 1.25? . Any drive that works will work in the MDD. There is no model-based differentiation of these drives. ALL of them process data slower than the bus of even the slowest G4, so it doesn't matter. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard-modest networking issue on a .local cluster
I'm not a networking guru by any means, but I have run into similar problems authenticating from Macs to Windows and Unix servers. In those cases when I had trouble, I used the short account name to authenticate. Is student the long and short name? If the short name is different, try logging in with that. If encryption is specified in the login box, I'd try turning it off too. Oh, and are you using Apple filesharing or SMB? Eric On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Dana Collins wrote: Hi all, I know there are some networking gurus on this list - perhaps what I am about to explain sounds familiar and you can point me or my helper in the right direction. I'm on sabbatical so my student administrator assistant is in charge of the music lab (a cluster of G5s running the same software, recently upgraded to Leopard 10.5.4). Here's the deal: all stations have two accounts: administrator and student. Obviously all students log in as student. All the student accounts have the same password, and are shared, i.e. file sharing is a normal daily operation. A student on station 2 can, in the Finder, go to Goconnect to serverlist of .local stations and choose which station volume they wish to mount. the password is asked for to connect to Station X, and they type in the common password. Recently my helper notified me of the following: (quote) The lab is settling down and mostly working now. However, when students try to connect to another station, it says that x (the password) is an invalid password. Is there a new password that I'm aware of, or is something else wrong? I had her log in as administrator and re-enter/refresh the student password on the ailing stations but that did not seem to work (according to a follow-up). Any pointers I can share from a distance for my helper to try? Many thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Recent Finder Problem ... Just Busy Behind the Desktop Scene?
On two occasions, since upgrading to 10.5.5, my Finder seems to have gotten into something that keeps it terribly, Beachball Spinning, busy ... First time facts escape me but I think maybe it was Spotlight working ... Today, I moved / installed a Seagate 80GB hard drive from my PowerPC 8500 PCI ATA channel into an External Oxford FW case I used to have a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D drive in (but moved that one to my QS since it's internal one was failing ... both the same model from 2003) ... When it came up on the Desktop, I did a Get Info then my Finder just went into Busy Mode ... I could open and play iTunes things, open Mail and look around, but couldn't close them ... each got stuck being partially closed ... and then there's the spinning beachball when I navigate to the Desktop ... Any hints on what happened? Couldn't open Activity Monitor to see what was going on Bill Connelly Musician and Painter artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/ myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I was just given a G4 733 tower
On 25-09-2008 00:47, PeterH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: I have no Pioneer drives beyond the DVR-111D as all subsequent purchases were for SATA drives, Sorry Peter, but the DVR-115D/116D are PATA drives. I'll send you the specs if you want. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD startup problem and solution, and a question.
At 5:19 PM -0700 9/20/2008, Aaron wrote: A couple of days ago, when I was doing various cabling changes inside my FireWire 800 MDD, at one point it wouldn't start up at all. I mean no visual or aural indication of any activity when I pressed the power button in various ways. Then, after other changes, it finally did and then, shortly after in the same configuration, it didn't! ::: When the MDD won't power up, just unplug the power cord for 10 seconds and plug it in again! QUESTION: Is it likely that this strange behavior presages any more serious problems? If so, what can I do about it beforehand? Depends on what'all you did in the system. Sounds like the PMU needed rebooting. You do this by (one of): a) Pressing the CUDA button ONCE. b) Removing the PRAM (Backup) Battery and replacing it after about 30 seconds. c) Removing main power from the system. In general... DO NOT be fooling with the hardware of a system while it has power. Some people like to keep it plugged in, to provide a good ground. And that's ok, if you've cut the power off at a power strip or something. But otherwise Also, (1) can I check the PRAM battery without removing it and (2) how does one remove it? No. Unplug the system and pull the battery. If it has a plastic cover on it, use a small flat blade or screwdriver to widen its wings. I'm guessing the PRAM battery may be bad because, when I reconnect after disconnection, I get the message about the computer's date being too old. Yes, loss of time is the one of the primary symptoms of a dead/dying PRAM battery. Definately time to replace it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I was just given a G4 733 tower
On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:58 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: Peter, where does the DVR-112D stand in this regard for a MDD DP 1.25? . Why not take the, AFAIK, latest Pioneer of these serie, the DVR-116D. Just ordered one for my QS 800/'02. Price in The Netherlands, picked up in the shop (for me 500 m around the corner), Euro 26,95 (= US$ 39,50). BTW, the older DVR-115D is even Euro 10 more expensive here!?!? Pioneer announced it was getting out of the business of making drives shortly after the DVR-111 was released. I think they back-tracked, somewhat, but it was clear that they weren't making much money on drives, what with DVR-111Ds being available for just under $30 from OWC. I have no Pioneer drives beyond the DVR-111D as all subsequent purchases were for SATA drives, for which the Lite-On 20X Litescribe burner is just about the best one can buy (I do not use the Lightscribe feature). It is sometimes called the screamer as it spins the media so fast. I presently have four Intel-based machines, all except one being all- SATA. The most recent Intel-based machine got two hand-me-down DVR-110s, which are PATA, from two Digital Audios. These are seen as an Apple Shipping Drive by MacOS 10.5.5. The only downside to the -110 and -111 is the speed is 16X, but that may be artificially limited to 8X by the media. The RPC1 folks have lots of firmware hacks for Pioneer drives, and of those the BenQ hacks are the best. These add-back some features which Pioneer removed for marketing reasons. Pioneer firmware revisions read something like 1.10. If the firmware revision reads 8.10, then it is the BenQ version, and it may indeed offer much higher performance, as well as much greater media compatibility (support for more media codes). I generally buy Memorex media, both DVD5 and DVD9, and these are actually made by Ricoh in Japan. I inventory about 200 DVD5s and about 50 DVD9s at all times, and the number of coasters I have had with the Memorex/Ricoh media has been vanishingly small, whether the burner was a Pioneer or a Lite-On. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recent Finder Problem ... Just Busy Behind the Desktop Scene?
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:06 PM, billycarmacs wrote: When it came up on the Desktop, I did a Get Info then my Finder just went into Busy Mode ... I could open and play iTunes things, open Mail and look around, but couldn't close them ... each got stuck being partially closed ... and then there's the spinning beachball when I navigate to the Desktop ... Any hints on what happened? Humm. I seem to have the exact opposite problem. I get the beachball in iTunes, and while a song may be playing normally, I can't navigate within iTunes or change any lyrics or artwork until the beachball stops, normally about a minute or so. I can go to Finder or any other applications and use them as normal, so I thought my problem was iTunes only and not a System Update issue, but I could be wrong. I've done no checking on this issue. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard-modest networking issue on a .local cluster
Hi Erik, Thanks for the post. I believe student is the short name (studentx, where x = station no., is the long name). All the file sharing concerns are Mac stations, but I believe we're using TCP/IP to establish connecting, I know we ditched AppleShare a while ago. Thanks, Dana On 9/24/08 5:11 PM, Eric Volker of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent I'm not a networking guru by any means, but I have run into similar problems authenticating from Macs to Windows and Unix servers. In those cases when I had trouble, I used the short account name to authenticate. Is student the long and short name? If the short name is different, try logging in with that. If encryption is specified in the login box, I'd try turning it off too. Oh, and are you using Apple filesharing or SMB? Eric On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Dana Collins wrote: Hi all, I know there are some networking gurus on this list - perhaps what I am about to explain sounds familiar and you can point me or my helper in the right direction. I'm on sabbatical so my student administrator assistant is in charge of the music lab (a cluster of G5s running the same software, recently upgraded to Leopard 10.5.4). Here's the deal: all stations have two accounts: administrator and student. Obviously all students log in as student. All the student accounts have the same password, and are shared, i.e. file sharing is a normal daily operation. A student on station 2 can, in the Finder, go to Goconnect to serverlist of .local stations and choose which station volume they wish to mount. the password is asked for to connect to Station X, and they type in the common password. Recently my helper notified me of the following: (quote) The lab is settling down and mostly working now. However, when students try to connect to another station, it says that x (the password) is an invalid password. Is there a new password that I'm aware of, or is something else wrong? I had her log in as administrator and re-enter/refresh the student password on the ailing stations but that did not seem to work (according to a follow-up). Any pointers I can share from a distance for my helper to try? Many thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard-modest networking issue on a .local cluster
On 9/24/08 5:32 PM, Dan of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent At 10:05 AM -0700 9/24/2008, Dana Collins wrote: I had her log in as administrator and re-enter/refresh the student password on the ailing stations but that did not seem to work Try turning off the file sharing, wait for it to completely stop, then turn it back on. - Dan. Thanks, Dan. I will do so. I've sent your suggestion off to the student manager. Regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another RAM Question
OK, I looked and its not listed Siemens HYB39S63160AT-8 Germany A E814936 Up the side it says: 9904 4 Chips on one side of the module On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Sighs* The similar (slightly different number) one I did find stated the seller and size. *Goes to once again basically pry out that RAM stick since it fits tightly whereas the one next to it comes out easily* On 9/24/08, J.M.P.Hissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck so far. The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the other stick came out easily enough). Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!! Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM. As said before, goto: http://www.chipmunk.nl/DRAM/ChipManufacturers.htm and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick. Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have! I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed. Again HTH, Jo Hissel -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another RAM Question
Ooops, up the end of the chip it says E04936 Board says this: 16-00640A Rev.A It is out of a Gateway Pentium II On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I looked and its not listed Siemens HYB39S63160AT-8 Germany A E814936 Up the side it says: 9904 4 Chips on one side of the module On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Sighs* The similar (slightly different number) one I did find stated the seller and size. *Goes to once again basically pry out that RAM stick since it fits tightly whereas the one next to it comes out easily* On 9/24/08, J.M.P.Hissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck so far. The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the other stick came out easily enough). Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!! Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM. As said before, goto: http://www.chipmunk.nl/DRAM/ChipManufacturers.htm and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick. Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have! I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed. Again HTH, Jo Hissel -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another RAM Question
On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, I looked and its not listed Siemens HYB39S63160AT-8 Germany A E814936 Up the side it says: 9904 4 Chips on one side of the module What was the other module?(meaning the 2nd one that you could identify?) You just subtract the size of the other module from the total RAM and get the size, and then assume the speed is the same (or look at the last digits on one of the four chips, they designate the speed in nanoseconds, which you should be able to convert to a standard module speed). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Larger drives and slowdowns?
At 1:59 PM -0400 9/22/2008, diane wrote: G4 1.42DP, 2gb ram I have a 120gb in there now and was thinking about 2 500's (to mirror or something). I was going to go to SATA for upwards compatibility. The question is, just how much will this slow the machine down? Why would going to a faster disk interface slow the machine down? [*] You'd be going from an ATA interface, that plods along, to a warp-speed SATA. Unless you buy a crippled dirt cheap SATA drive with half its legs in casts, it's i/o bandwidth is going to run circles around your old ATA interface. My husband is trying to convince me to go to a shared NAS for the two of us. Not that I disagree in general especially with backups, but I do kinda like having the stuff I use a lot on my internal drive. Networked storage is nice, and has its uses, but it can be awfully slow. What speed is your LAN? 100 Mb? 1 Gb? 10 Gb? Or is it mostly wi-fi -- 25 Mb, maybe 40 Mb (11g on a good day), or maybe 60 Mb (11n on a great day)? Compare that to your internal SATA I (1.5 Gbps) or SATA III (3 Gbps). Here at me casa, we have a small file server. My housemates tend to go wired to talk to it because wi-fi is just too pokey. And even then, they only put things they want to share with each other there, or some backups. [*] Data is like gas - it expands to fill all available space. When I have space available, I just can't resist going nutz downloading extra movies and podcasts. All those downloads at once definitely slows down my machine! Then of course you can hear the disk grumbling from the weight of all those bits! HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another RAM Question
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I don't remember offhand. I have not set up this machine. I was given this machine and I forgot to ask what amount of RAM it has (or what size HD) I was just going through other computers I have sitting around seeing if I have some RAM I can put into the G4 I am getting (so I don't have to yank what is in the Smurf as I want to keep it in the network). 99% chance that PII RAM is too old and slow for a G4. It's also likely a small DIMM since there are only 4 chips total on it. You're wasting time, the DIMM is likely worth less than 50¢. If you're going to use the G4 for real buy the largest size modules it will take. Ask on LEM-Swap, buy on eBay used, or use RamSeeker.com for cheapest prices on new (compare with eBay Buy It Now new). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recent Finder Problem ... Just Busy Behind the Desktop Scene?
On Sep 24, 5:06 pm, billycarmacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On two occasions, since upgrading to 10.5.5, my Finder seems to have gotten into something that keeps it terribly, Beachball Spinning, busy ... First time facts escape me but I think maybe it was Spotlight working ... Today, I moved / installed a Seagate 80GB hard drive from my PowerPC 8500 PCI ATA channel into an External Oxford FW case I used to have a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D drive in (but moved that one to my QS since it's internal one was failing ... both the same model from 2003) ... When it came up on the Desktop, I did a Get Info then my Finder just went into Busy Mode ... I could open and play iTunes things, open Mail and look around, but couldn't close them ... each got stuck being partially closed ... and then there's the spinning beachball when I navigate to the Desktop ... Any hints on what happened? Couldn't open Activity Monitor to see what was going on Bill Connelly Musician and Painter artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/ myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Yes, I've been getting that, too. On my last generation PowerBook, I've also had repeated kernel panics at the point after login when all the stuff is started. Looking in CrashReporter log tipped me to syslogd. Activity Monitor showed this process hogging 80-100% processor. This is not a new bug (just new to me), and has been documented since the testing versions of Leopard. The goog found me this page: http://www.spockboy.com/blog/archives/8 where I did: Firstly, stop syslogd sudo launchctl unload com.apple.syslogd.plist Open up the syslogd.plist file for launchd: sudo vi /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.syslogd.plist Find the following line (on an unmodified version, line 23): string/usr/sbin/syslogd/string Add these lines after: string-c/string string0/string Start syslogd again: sudo launchctl load com.apple.syslogd.plist It's working so far - processor is down around 20-30% with the normal 4-5 apps running, and the system feels responsive again. Good luck, V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another RAM Question
I believe the other RAM stick in the PII was a 64M PC100 DIMM Either way, was just wondering what size this other one is since it is in the same machine. On 9/24/08, Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I don't remember offhand. I have not set up this machine. I was given this machine and I forgot to ask what amount of RAM it has (or what size HD) I was just going through other computers I have sitting around seeing if I have some RAM I can put into the G4 I am getting (so I don't have to yank what is in the Smurf as I want to keep it in the network). 99% chance that PII RAM is too old and slow for a G4. It's also likely a small DIMM since there are only 4 chips total on it. You're wasting time, the DIMM is likely worth less than 50¢. If you're going to use the G4 for real buy the largest size modules it will take. Ask on LEM-Swap, buy on eBay used, or use RamSeeker.com for cheapest prices on new (compare with eBay Buy It Now new). -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G3-5 posting delay issues
I sent a response tonight to the thread Recent Finder Problem at 7:50 PM and received my own response at 11:55 PM, a 4 hour 5 minute delay. In between, I sent a response to Another RAM Question at 9:10 PM 9:39 PM and received both my replies in the exact same minute I sent them. What's the deal? I've noticed if I read G3-5 on the web- based Google Groups site I see quite a few postings from others that I've not received yet, some arriving hours later? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
