Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Donald Hall wrote: > Actually, the dual 2.7 has PCI-X slots. PCI-X is mostly backward > compatible to PCI. > > Jack is most likely referring to the slot keying. Around the MDD era, > the old 5 volt PCI cards started being phased out in favor of 3.3v or > universal P

Re: 10.5.5 vrs 10.5.4

2008-12-07 Thread PeterH
On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:47 PM, insightinmind wrote: > Has anyone had "add on" drivers, such as one for a PCI Audio card, > that ran okay under 10.5.4, but started causing problems after > upgrading to 10.5.5? 10.5.5 introduced a number of problems, and 10.5.6 will introduce many more, both of th

10.5.5 vrs 10.5.4

2008-12-07 Thread insightinmind
Has anyone had "add on" drivers, such as one for a PCI Audio card, that ran okay under 10.5.4, but started causing problems after upgrading to 10.5.5? Maybe a USB MIDI driver? Mainly on PowerPC G4s ... but if a driver works on a PPC but not on your Intel ... please submit your data, too.

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Donald Hall
On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Dec 7, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jack Countryman wrote: >> Strange then that the single 1.6 I passed on to mom, and the dual >> 2.7 I have >> here now, will not take the old PCI cards...the slots are configured >> so they >> don't fit... > > The dual 2

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 7, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Jack Countryman wrote: > Strange then that the single 1.6 I passed on to mom, and the dual > 2.7 I have > here now, will not take the old PCI cards...the slots are configured > so they > don't fit... The dual 2.7 uses PCIe. The single 1.6 has normal PCI slots. -

Re: 8 gig SanDisk Micro Cruzer does not work

2008-12-07 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Ken Rossman wrote: > I couldn't > resist buying them here and there), and all of them work great. > > However, the *first* thing I do is to toss the thing onto a Windows > box and use > U3 to *remove* U3 and fully reformat the stick as just a plain old > FAT32 drive.

Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-07 Thread joe
On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > joe wrote: >> I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already >> installed on it. I used the install disk to reset the admin >> password, >> but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to >> me. >> I

Re: 8 gig SanDisk Micro Cruzer does not work

2008-12-07 Thread Ken Rossman
On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Ray wrote: > I just purchased an 8 gig SanDisk Micro Cruzer at Staples for $13 on > Black Friday but I am having problems with it in Mac OSX.4. It's > suppose > to work in OSX. I did not install U3 (is there anybody that uses it?). > It will copy for awhile and then i

Re: Reading this group

2008-12-07 Thread nestamicky
Thanks a lot Charles. I thought I had it sorted until I clicked on that funny shaped spiral on T-Bird. Now it lists them properly; from the start of the thread to the latest response. All is great now. Finally. Thanks so much. Charles Lenington wrote: > nestamicky wrote: > >> I have T-bird s

Re: Is it a CD or DVD? How can you tell?

2008-12-07 Thread Isaac Smith
Check the color of the back. Typically, CDs are silver, sometimes leaning toward green, and DVDs are purple or gold. If it's blue, well, I've found DVDs and CDs that both had a blue-ish tint. But if it's newer, it's probably silver (CD) or purple (DVD). You could also always stick it into a

Is it a CD or DVD? How can you tell?

2008-12-07 Thread Jonas Lopez
Is it a CD or DVD? How can you tell? Without any written info on the disk, how can you tell if it is a DVD or a CD? JML --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4,

8 gig SanDisk Micro Cruzer does not work

2008-12-07 Thread Ray
I just purchased an 8 gig SanDisk Micro Cruzer at Staples for $13 on Black Friday but I am having problems with it in Mac OSX.4. It's suppose to work in OSX. I did not install U3 (is there anybody that uses it?). It will copy for awhile and then it just hangs and stops copying. I don't want to

Re: List of updates to get from OS 10.4.0 to 10.4.11

2008-12-07 Thread Dana Collins
On 12/7/08 8:41 AM, Dan A. Currie of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent > > Paul wrote: >> I saw another Mac running 10.4 that had DVD player 4.6.5. I'm not sure >> where that came from. >> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ >> > Hello, > > I am driving an MDD DUALIE 1.25 MHz / 2 GB

Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-07 Thread Clark Martin
joe wrote: > I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already > installed on it. I used the install disk to reset the admin password, > but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to me. > I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use. (There's nothing there

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread Linda
On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Al Poulin wrote: > I agree provided I bought the RAM from a highly reputable vendor for > Mac-compliant RAM. Otherwise, I'd install Leopard first, because > Leopard is more fussy about compliant RAM than previous OS versions. I bought it from Other World Computing.

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread Linda
On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:30 AM, John Callahan wrote: > It would be helpful if when people refer to their operating systems > they give the number rather than the names. There are many versions > of, for example "Tiger" and my "About This Mac" calls out "Version > 10.4.11". It is very easy to det

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread Linda
On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:27 AM, PeterH wrote: > > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Linda wrote: > I've bought more RAM and Leopard. I also have a DVR-104PB that a friend gave me. >>> >>> Single-layer DVDs, only, and probably only - DVDs, not + DVDs. >>> >>> For my systems, I won't use a

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Jack Countryman
Strange then that the single 1.6 I passed on to mom, and the dual 2.7 I have here now, will not take the old PCI cards...the slots are configured so they don't fit... On 12/7/08 2:37 PM, "Kris Tilford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: > >> Not

Re: Problems with external firewire HD

2008-12-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 6, 2008, at 6:21 PM, joplinfan wrote: > > When hooked up via firewire to the laptop, the Toshiba's main hard > drive can't open applications until the firewire drive is > disconnected. It's almost like the main hard drive gets confused when > the firewire drive is connected. > > I have th

keychain G4 question

2008-12-07 Thread joe
I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already installed on it. I used the install disk to reset the admin password, but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to me. I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use. (There's nothing there at this point-

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: > Note that the slots on the g5 towers are PCI-e format...not the > older PCI, > so you loose the use of your old cards on either machine. No, this isn't necessarily true. The early G5s, below 2.0 GHz had regular "old" PCI slots. The middle

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Al Poulin
On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:35 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: > == 1 of 7 == > Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 6:18 am > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > I'm thinking of upgrading from my bulging G4 Digital Audio with a dual > 800 processor. I need to decide between a fairly fast G5 tower dual > or an Intel iMac (pr

Re: Currently Best DVD DL for a QS

2008-12-07 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
I'm the gal who just upgraded my Quicksilver to Tiger without a DVD drive. Can I install a program on a DVD the same way? Or, as Dan said, is may be too moronic not to have a DVD drive these days. Stupid question coming up: are a DVD-RW drive, a Superdrive, and a DVD burner the same thing

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread George Hozendorf
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 11:41 AM -0600 12/7/2008, George Hozendorf wrote: > > [html formatting removed] > > >So, you're saying I'm stuck with this 13 year old PC laptop that is > >picking up a wireless signal from somewhere until tomorrow? > > Given t

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread Dan
At 11:41 AM -0600 12/7/2008, George Hozendorf wrote: [html formatting removed] >So, you're saying I'm stuck with this 13 year old PC laptop that is >picking up a wireless signal from somewhere until tomorrow? Given the information you've provided, I'm guessing your new modem hasn't been provi

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread Dennis Myhand
George Hozendorf wrote: > > > > So, you're saying I'm stuck with this 13 year old PC laptop that is > picking up a wireless signal from somewhere until tomorrow? > Unless you can think of a way to make people who are more interested in taking money from people than they are serving their c

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread Al Poulin
On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:13 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: > > > > == 3 of 6 == > Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 1:06 pm > From: Jeffrey Engle > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Linda wrote: >> What sequence should I use to upgrade my machine? Should I install >> the >> RAM and drive and then the OS or the other

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread George Hozendorf
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:45 AM -0600 12/7/2008, George Hozendorf wrote: > >MacMini 1.83 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.5.5 > > >Was having trouble with speed from Linksys wireless modem. Cable > >provider said the problem was in the modem, so I purchased a n

Re: Currently Best DVD DL for a QS

2008-12-07 Thread PeterH
On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:20 AM, billycar_G3-5 wrote: >> If you can get one of those OWC drives which have no bezel and no >> tray front (and no LED indicators), then do so for a Quicksilver. The >> QS' media bays are quite different from earlier (and later) Apples. > > I recently traded out a suspec

Re: Currently Best DVD DL for a QS

2008-12-07 Thread billycar_G3-5
On Dec 5, 2:00 pm, PeterH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you can get one of those OWC drives which have no bezel and no   > tray front (and no LED indicators), then do so for a Quicksilver. The   > QS' media bays are quite different from earlier (and later) Apples. I recently traded out a sus

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread Dan
At 10:45 AM -0600 12/7/2008, George Hozendorf wrote: >MacMini 1.83 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.5.5 >Was having trouble with speed from Linksys wireless modem. Cable >provider said the problem was in the modem, so I purchased a new >modem. Now I can't connect at all. The original "Larry the cable >g

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: > > Note that the slots on the g5 towers are PCI-e format...not the > older PCI, > so you loose the use of your old cards on either machine (the iMac > has no > card slots at all). Note also that the G5 and Intel towers all use > SATA > d

Re: New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:45 AM, George Hozendorf wrote: > Was having trouble with speed from Linksys wireless modem. Cable > provider said the problem was in the modem, so I purchased a new > modem. Now I can't connect at all. The original "Larry the cable > guy" came out. He knew nothing

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Jack Countryman
Note that the slots on the g5 towers are PCI-e format...not the older PCI, so you loose the use of your old cards on either machine (the iMac has no card slots at all). Note also that the G5 and Intel towers all use SATA drives so unless you have a sata controller card in your g4, none of your dr

New Wireless Modem

2008-12-07 Thread George Hozendorf
Was having trouble with speed from Linksys wireless modem. Cable provider said the problem was in the modem, so I purchased a new modem. Now I can't connect at all. The original "Larry the cable guy" came out. He knew nothing about Macs. He said I'd have to made until Monday when someone in th

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread John Callahan
On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Linda wrote: > >> I have a powermac G4 mirrored drive doors with panther, 1.25 GHz, 768 >> mb of RAM, an 80 GB hard drive with a second 160GB drive for storage. >> >> I've bought more RAM and Leopard. I also have a DV

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread PeterH
On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > I'm gonna have to agree with Tony here. Go iMac! Just sold my G5 dual > 2ghz and bought a new macbook and the difference is overwhelming. I > can do all the crunching I used to do and have my portable too! For most folks, an iMac makes the most

Re: Kernel Extensions

2008-12-07 Thread Dan
At 12:32 PM + 12/7/2008, Ted Treen wrote: >running 10.5.5. > >tried odd bits of freeware/shareware/demo software - from trusted >sources only - some of which I have kept, and some not. > >Undoubtedly some of these have installed KEXTS Why do you think this? Things that install kernel extens

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Dec 7, 2008, at 6:58 AM, Tony Gamble wrote: > > > On 7-Dec-08, at 9:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> I'm thinking of upgrading from my bulging G4 Digital Audio with a >> dual >> 800 processor. I need to decide between a fairly fast G5 tower dual >> or an Intel iMac (probably recondi

Re: Running Leopard Install DVD Issues - HD specs?

2008-12-07 Thread Dan
At 7:16 PM -0800 12/6/2008, Dana Collins wrote: >Digital Audio G4 (OWC Mercury 1.5GHz CPU, 1.5 Gig RAM, Pioneer 112 >SuperDrive, etc.). > >Regardless of hard drive, the unit refuses to boot up the retail >Install DVD of Leopard. I get the initial grey screen/silver Apple >with rotating gear - 30

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread PeterH
On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Linda wrote: >>> I've bought more RAM and Leopard. I also have a DVR-104PB that a >>> friend >>> gave me. >> >> Single-layer DVDs, only, and probably only - DVDs, not + DVDs. >> >> For my systems, I won't use anything less than a DVR-109. > > this drive was given to m

Re: upgrading advice

2008-12-07 Thread Linda
On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:46 PM, PeterH wrote: > > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Linda wrote: > >> I've bought more RAM and Leopard. I also have a DVR-104PB that a >> friend >> gave me. I understand this is will burn DVDs. Since my other drive is >> only a DVD player I thought it would be nice to pu

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread Tony Gamble
On 7-Dec-08, at 9:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm thinking of upgrading from my bulging G4 Digital Audio with a dual > 800 processor. I need to decide between a fairly fast G5 tower dual > or an Intel iMac (probably reconditioned), somewhere in the $1000- > $1500 price range. I'm a li

Re: G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread PeterH
On Dec 7, 2008, at 6:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm thinking of upgrading from my bulging G4 Digital Audio with a dual > 800 processor. I need to decide between a fairly fast G5 tower dual > or an Intel iMac (probably reconditioned), somewhere in the $1000- > $1500 price range. I'm a l

G5 or Intel?

2008-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm thinking of upgrading from my bulging G4 Digital Audio with a dual 800 processor. I need to decide between a fairly fast G5 tower dual or an Intel iMac (probably reconditioned), somewhere in the $1000- $1500 price range. I'm a little conflicted since getting a tower G5 would make an easy tr

Re: List of updates to get from OS 10.4.0 to 10.4.11

2008-12-07 Thread Dan A. Currie
Paul wrote: > I saw another Mac running 10.4 that had DVD player 4.6.5. I'm not sure > where that came from. > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > Hello, I am driving an MDD DUALIE 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 2 -120 GB and 1 - 200 GB HD / NETSCAPE 9.0.0.6 / OS X.4.11 and my DVD

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-07 Thread Yersinia
Charles Lenington writes, Yeah, I did -- both times! ~Yersinia. "Friends don't let friends do Windoze." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 deskto

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-07 Thread Yersinia
Kris writes, And, Mac laptops also have their power buttons on the keyboard too. Alas, it wasn't my iBook (or one of my older Powerbooks) which needed the PRAM-zap (and OF reset) -- it was the desktop machine, which has a full size keyboard. LOL ~Yersinia. "As I let go of my fee

Re: List of updates to get from OS 10.4.0 to 10.4.11

2008-12-07 Thread Ted Treen
Paul wrote: > I saw another Mac running 10.4 that had DVD player 4.6.5. I'm not sure > where that came from. > I upped my 10.4 disk to 10.4.11 in the usual increments (always by using combo updates) and I have DVD player 4.6.5 I can only assume it came with one of the combo updates: I believe

Kernel Extensions

2008-12-07 Thread Ted Treen
Hi All, When I moved up from my Sawtooth to a dual G5 2GHz, I took the SATA drives (2 x 320GB) from my heavily-modded G4 and installed them in the G5 - running 10.5.5. Over a period of time, I have tried odd bits of freeware/shareware/demo software - from trusted sources only - some of which

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Brown
I must have large hands, that or difference in keyboard. I am using one of the newer aluminum keyboards, non wireless variant. Ive never thought of myself as having large hands, but ive been told that im a large person, so it would make sense lol. On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:10 AM, Kris Tilford wr

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-07 Thread Kris Tilford
>> On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Jason Brown wrote: >> >> I just hold down command and option with my thumb and press the p >> with >> my pointer and r with pinky and then use my right hand to turn on >> my >> machine. > Kris Tilford replied: > This works for ful

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Brown
Um, it works for me to use my left hand on left side of keyboard to press the command and option and use pointer finger to press the p and my pinky to press the r, i can do it with no problem actually. On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Jason