Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
On May 7, 2009, at 10:47 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > Yes, it is probably the "downloads" window. It just pops up randomly > and the downloads are generally tiny like 4K files. This crap just > started the other day. > > I don't know about capturing a screen shot since this activity > seems to > hijack the whole application. > > I guess I need to upgrade Safari for starters. > > JT You should be able to do a whole screen capture with command-shift-3. If not, go to Applications/Utilities/Grab. If your OS is 10.4.9, you should update it to 10.4.11 too. Maybe clean up a bunch of browser stuff (I like to use Onyx to clean all that stuff out). I can't imagine how you'd get automatic downloads, though. You could try looking at the page with JavaScript disabled. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
Dan wrote: > At 9:08 PM -0500 5/7/09, James E. Therrault wrote: > >>Dan wrote: >> >>> At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote: >>> >> >> >>Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads >> while at various websites. These "downloads" are small but they virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a "Force Quit." >> >> > >> >>> OS? Safari vers? >>> 10.9 3.0.4 > > > 10.9? No such release yet. > > >> > URLs involved? >> >>Last one was http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/ > > > I've tried that page with Safari 3.0.4, 3.2.1, and 4 beta. It loads > and works for me, even on my 300-MHz Smurf. No javascript errors. > No pop-up anything. Some of the flash ads are a bit, um, > over-animated. No odd downloads. However... that page (before > clicking on any news articles) pumped me full of cookies. 62 of > them! And turning off both plug-ins and javascript makes it load > MUCH faster. Lame code. > > Your "dialog (pop up) listing downloads"... Are you talking about the > downloads window? Or something else? Please show us a screen shot > of this. > > - Dan. Yes, it is probably the "downloads" window. It just pops up randomly and the downloads are generally tiny like 4K files. This crap just started the other day. I don't know about capturing a screen shot since this activity seems to hijack the whole application. I guess I need to upgrade Safari for starters. JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Oh No I Need To Switch Emailers!
Well hello everyone it took me awhile, and yes, a program (Emailchemy) but I actually did it! I got all 13 years/32,262 emails out of Claris Emailer -- and into THUNDERBIRD! This email is coming to you on Thunderbird now (it's my third since migration). Oh, and you all know what ELSE this means? Since last week I broke down and "beat" my "G4 won't boot in OS 9 bug" by buying and installing Panther (10.3.2) on that HD -- and that cured the problem for which OS 9 had originally been the only cure, I'm totally off OS 9 except for Classic Mode...and that only for two very old programs which are still vital and won't run without Classic. Nope, there's no replacing those last two, not unless I write my own replacements, or stop modding my Sims game...both of which are doubtful. (Oh, and since I don't use those two programs when booted in Panther -- still on Tiger most of the time -- I didn't even set up my Panther drive to RUN Classic!) Thunderbird is pretty cool so far though. There's some "pain in the neck things" (one of which I thought getting off Claris would fix...sigh) but I attribute that to my usual lack of skill in adjusting to change! I'll get used to it pretty soon though, given the usual volume of my email habits. Anyway, thought I'd mention I actually got up and running with Thunderbird, after all my moaning and groaning... Please pass me some cheese to accompany my whine! :-) ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Shuffling SATA & PATA HDs in Yikes! and QS 2002
On May 7, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > > I also have a QS with a 320Gb PATA in it. I can't seem to find these (PATA drives by Seagate). Any hints where to look these days for PATA or IDE Seagate 7200.11s? > > On the other hand I'd sort of want the larger capacity and faster > drives > in the faster computer. It depends on what you are doing with them. My uses include: Growing Jazz Library of Videos and CDs: Video storage and display, CD storage and retrieval, Sibelius Music score use, Ableton's Live recording and playback. Backup to attached 750GB FW external drive, among other things. Also scanning of transparencies of nature scenes, scans of artwork, and artsite library. Probably will need the storage over the speed. I suppose if I could find a good source for PATA drives, I might go that route one more time. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
At 9:08 PM -0500 5/7/09, James E. Therrault wrote: >Dan wrote: >> At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote: >> > >>Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads >>>while at various websites. These "downloads" are small but they >>>virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a "Force Quit." > > >> OS? Safari vers? >> 10.9 3.0.4 10.9? No such release yet. > > URLs involved? > >Last one was http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/ I've tried that page with Safari 3.0.4, 3.2.1, and 4 beta. It loads and works for me, even on my 300-MHz Smurf. No javascript errors. No pop-up anything. Some of the flash ads are a bit, um, over-animated. No odd downloads. However... that page (before clicking on any news articles) pumped me full of cookies. 62 of them! And turning off both plug-ins and javascript makes it load MUCH faster. Lame code. Your "dialog (pop up) listing downloads"... Are you talking about the downloads window? Or something else? Please show us a screen shot of this. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
Dan wrote: > At 7:55 AM -0700 5/7/2009, artemis wrote: > >>few days Command-Q has become ineffective and I've been having to >>Force Quit to get out of it. Otherwise, I stare at the spinning >>beachball forever . . . > > > URLs? > > Safari vers? > > Details please > > If some page element is causing Safari to hang, we need to isolate it > and report it to Apple. > > - Dan. Just replied to your earlier post. I've been out all day. JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
Dan wrote: > At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote: > >>Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads >>while at various websites. These "downloads" are small but they >>virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a "Force Quit." > > > OS? Safari vers? > 10.9 3.0.4 > URLs involved? Last one was http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/ > > What plug-ins and inputmanagers have you installed? Nothing that I know of. I only use Safari when Mozilla hangs. JT > > - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD G4 and GeForce 6200 - compatible?
I am running a 6200 right now in a DA G4 with a 933 MHz QS processor. The monitor is a 28" set to 1920 x 1200 @ 60 MHz using the DVI port. I have had a second small CRT hooked up before as well. If yu do put a 6200 into your QS i recommend removing the passive heatsink and installing a GPU cooler. Check this: http://www.atpm.com/13.10/cube.shtml On May 6, 3:24 am, dorayme wrote: > > From: Dana Collins > > > I have a flashed GeForce 6200 (256Mb model) in my QuickSilver 2002 > > May I ask you, does this card truly support 1920px across on one > monitor with spare capacity to run another monitor at whatever...? > > I am thinking of a better card for my 933 QS 2002 pre MDD. > > -- > dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Shuffling SATA & PATA HDs in Yikes! and QS 2002
On May 7, 2009, at 4:06 PM, insightinmind wrote: > I also researched 7200.11 vs 7200.12 ... still up in the air about > this new development. > The "333" drive is from its new family, 3 platters instead of 4. This not withstanding the "333" is ".11" and the other is ".12". --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Shuffling SATA & PATA HDs in Yikes! and QS 2002
insightinmind wrote: > I need a new HD for my Yikes! 80GB one, and prefer Seagates. > > I could move my 500GB drive from my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, to my Yikes! > which now has a Sonnet Trio ATA133/FW/USB PCI card in it (large drive > supported). Then replace my drive in the QS with a 1TB Seagate 7200.12 > plus a SATA controller (either Sonnet Tech or FirmTek). > > I also researched 7200.11 vs 7200.12 ... still up in the air about this > new development. > > Any experience with this idea and details? I could just simply locate a > large PATA drive for my Yikes! and be satisfied with that change, > although the larger ones seem to be over priced relative to SATA ... > just was thinking, since I'm upgrading a bit, why not go a bit further > and start sampling SATAs? I'd go with SATA. Wait a minute, I DID go with SATA. I have a SATA controller and two SATA drives (.75 and 1 Tb) in my DA server. Since the QS supports large PATA directly I'd leave the 500 Gb in it unless you need more room. I just wish the SATA controllers were cheaper (as in as cheap as the same card for WinTel). I also have a QS with a 320Gb PATA in it. On the other hand I'd sort of want the larger capacity and faster drives in the faster computer. It depends on what you are doing with them. In my case the DA has all the storage capacity as it's the household server and I'm storing video files there. > > Comments welcomed. > > OWCs site has the following offerings: > > Seagate 1TB SATA > 7200.11: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST31000333AS/ > Seagate 1TB SATA 7200.12: > http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST3100528AS/ > FirmTek: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/FTST1S2/ (2yr Warranty) > SonnetTech: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/ > (1yr Warranty) I was looking to get the Seagate 1.5 Tb SATA drive. But they had a problem with the firmware on the drive. Then the firmware update was causing problems. So I've opted to avoid Seagate until they get their act together (and then a while). I got a 1 Tb Hitachi from OWC. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Shuffling SATA & PATA HDs in Yikes! and QS 2002
I need a new HD for my Yikes! 80GB one, and prefer Seagates. I could move my 500GB drive from my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, to my Yikes! which now has a Sonnet Trio ATA133/FW/USB PCI card in it (large drive supported). Then replace my drive in the QS with a 1TB Seagate 7200.12 plus a SATA controller (either Sonnet Tech or FirmTek). I also researched 7200.11 vs 7200.12 ... still up in the air about this new development. Any experience with this idea and details? I could just simply locate a large PATA drive for my Yikes! and be satisfied with that change, although the larger ones seem to be over priced relative to SATA ... just was thinking, since I'm upgrading a bit, why not go a bit further and start sampling SATAs? Comments welcomed. OWCs site has the following offerings: Seagate 1TB SATA 7200.11: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ ST31000333AS/ Seagate 1TB SATA 7200.12: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ ST3100528AS/ FirmTek: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/FTST1S2/ (2yr Warranty) SonnetTech: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/ (1yr Warranty) Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
On May 7, 2009, at 11:55 AM, nestamicky wrote: > I have a question after considering Bruce's suggest and that of Dan's. > The question is: which procedure would reproduce his older HD in the > new > HD as regards his programs, files, etc, while also ensuring the OS > files > are as fresh as could be on a new install? Either one. Different routes to the same thing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
>At 12:55 PM -0600 5/7/09, nestamicky wrote: >which procedure would reproduce his older HD in the new HD as >regards his programs, files, etc, while also ensuring the OS files >are as fresh as could be on a new install? Both procedures result in a fully updated OS. Mine simply makes sure that the underlying hard drive and file systems thereon are also in good condition... I recommend doing this because it just makes no sense to me to put in the upgrade work without knowing if you're building on wet sand or bedrock. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
Kirk Morrison wrote: > Thanks, I will do that as it makes the most sense to me and as the > only app is Open Office right now, I will just back up the Docs and my > printer driver so I don't have to DL it again. > > > > Kirk > > > "He who has honor need not fear death." > Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 > > My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:39:49 -0400 > > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > From: dantear...@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 > > > > > > At 11:18 AM -0400 5/7/2009, Kirk Morrison wrote: > > >My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, > > >I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? > > > > Obtain all the necessary extension, plug-in, and app updates. > > Make a full backup. > > Boot on the Panther DVD and run Disk Utility. > > Erase your HD, zero'ing it. [*] > > Install OS X. > > Install your apps etc. > > Restore you user data. > > > > [*] This step ensures that you have a fresh clean file system on a > > known-good hard drive. No stray bad blocks hanging around, etc. > > > > - Dan. > > -- > > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth > > > > > > I have a question after considering Bruce's suggest and that of Dan's. The question is: which procedure would reproduce his older HD in the new HD as regards his programs, files, etc, while also ensuring the OS files are as fresh as could be on a new install? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
At 12:02 PM -0400 5/7/2009, photoartcom wrote: >I replaced the 3.6V battery, tested the battery which registered >good. In the beginning I used the reset button to jump start the >computer, which worked for a week. Now it only lights up and no >noise. Its not the power because it lights up right? . Do you >think if I replaced the mother board, I could get some power into it. >I unplugged everything except the key-board and monitor, with the >same results. what is your thoughts? At this point, it could be either the power supply or motherboard. Strip the machine down a bit. No externals except keyboard, mouse, and monitor. Pull the PCI cards and video card. Hit the CUDA button (reset the PMU) *once*. Then try booting... see if you can at least the "no gots memory!" beeps. What specific PowerMac do you have? Is it a GigE or? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Switching to OS X.3
Thanks, I will do that as it makes the most sense to me and as the only app is Open Office right now, I will just back up the Docs and my printer driver so I don't have to DL it again. Kirk "He who has honor need not fear death." Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:39:49 -0400 > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > From: dantear...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 > > > At 11:18 AM -0400 5/7/2009, Kirk Morrison wrote: > >My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, > >I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? > > Obtain all the necessary extension, plug-in, and app updates. > Make a full backup. > Boot on the Panther DVD and run Disk Utility. > Erase your HD, zero'ing it. [*] > Install OS X. > Install your apps etc. > Restore you user data. > > [*] This step ensures that you have a fresh clean file system on a > known-good hard drive. No stray bad blocks hanging around, etc. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth > > > _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
AGP graphics card for G4 MDD 2003
I have a 2003 MDD whose original graphics card was the ATI Radeon 9000 with 64MB VRAM. Quartz Extreme supported, Core Image not supported. I recently bought two other video cards: --ATI Radeon 9600 with 64MB VRAM, Quartz Extreme and Core Image both supported. --nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 with 128MB VRAM, Quartz Extreme supported, Core Image NOT supported. Is one of these cards better than the other? I don't notice a difference, but then I am not playing high-end games or editing digital video. Also, is there any benefit to installing the driver? ATI has one to download for the 9600. I can't find one for the nVidia. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks. Herb Goodfriend --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Peace And Health, Dan I replaced the 3.6V battery, tested the battery which registered good. In the beginning I used the reset button to jump start the computer, which worked for a week. Now it only lights up and no noise. Its not the power because it lights up right? . Do you think if I replaced the mother board, I could get some power into it. I unplugged everything except the key-board and monitor, with the same results. what is your thoughts? choice On May 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Dan wrote: > > At 11:33 AM -0400 5/6/2009, photoartcom wrote: >> >> They seem to power up, meaning the lights come on. I can hear it >> trying to start up but no >> video (monitor), no tone, just lights. > > Lack of bong is a total failure of the self-test - probably the PMU > isn't running. So Peter's suggestion of replacing the PRAM battery > is the first step. > > Odd that two machines would go down at the same time this way tho. > What else happened? What is plugged into them? > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
At 11:18 AM -0400 5/7/2009, Kirk Morrison wrote: >My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, >I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? Obtain all the necessary extension, plug-in, and app updates. Make a full backup. Boot on the Panther DVD and run Disk Utility. Erase your HD, zero'ing it. [*] Install OS X. Install your apps etc. Restore you user data. [*] This step ensures that you have a fresh clean file system on a known-good hard drive. No stray bad blocks hanging around, etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Switching to OS X.3
Thanks, I think the existing drive is a 16 but it is a bit small, and I will follow your advice the 4 choices for install confused me as to what would be best. I have had to use Bloze to long as my late wife had to have it for work, only 2 choices there, so as soon as I get the G4 fairly modern in OS X. Then the Bloze machine is going to freecycle and I will save up for a newer Mac. It is a big step up though from my Quadra 6800 AV Kirk "He who has honor need not fear death." Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you > From: john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:23:49 -0700 > > > > On May 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Kirk Morrison wrote: > > > > > My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, > > I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? I can > > even replace the drive if need be as I have a spare 30 Gig sitting > > in a box, it is brand new. > > That would probably be the best, becasue if this is the original drive > in the G4 it's probably only 6 or 10 gigs, right? > > Put in the 30 gig (leave in the existing drive). > > Use Carbon Copy CLoner to copy your existing boot volume to the 30 gig > drive. > > Boot from the 10.3 CD, and after you seelct the 30G drive to install > on, click on the Options button in the installer. Choose Archive & > Install and leave preserve user settings checked. > > This keeps all your user accounts but gives you a clean System install. > > You will have to re-install any 3rd party system drivers and pref > panes; for example, when I do this I've got to re-install things like > my Kensington and Wacom drivers. > > Once the new drive is upgraded and running well, you can reformat the > old drive and use it for additional storage or a backup boot systems, > etc. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
At 7:55 AM -0700 5/7/2009, artemis wrote: >few days Command-Q has become ineffective and I've been having to >Force Quit to get out of it. Otherwise, I stare at the spinning >beachball forever . . . URLs? Safari vers? Details please If some page element is causing Safari to hang, we need to isolate it and report it to Apple. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
On May 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Kirk Morrison wrote: > > My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, > I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? I can > even replace the drive if need be as I have a spare 30 Gig sitting > in a box, it is brand new. That would probably be the best, becasue if this is the original drive in the G4 it's probably only 6 or 10 gigs, right? Put in the 30 gig (leave in the existing drive). Use Carbon Copy CLoner to copy your existing boot volume to the 30 gig drive. Boot from the 10.3 CD, and after you seelct the 30G drive to install on, click on the Options button in the installer. Choose Archive & Install and leave preserve user settings checked. This keeps all your user accounts but gives you a clean System install. You will have to re-install any 3rd party system drivers and pref panes; for example, when I do this I've got to re-install things like my Kensington and Wacom drivers. Once the new drive is upgraded and running well, you can reformat the old drive and use it for additional storage or a backup boot systems, etc. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Switching to OS X.3
My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? I can even replace the drive if need be as I have a spare 30 Gig sitting in a box, it is brand new. I replaced the DVD ROM with a writer and up the memory so I am not afraid to go into it. I would like to go to 10.4 but I haven't found a retail install I can afford, so this will have to do for a bit. Kirk "He who has honor need not fear death." Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote: >Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads >while at various websites. These "downloads" are small but they >virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a "Force Quit." OS? Safari vers? URLs involved? What plug-ins and inputmanagers have you installed? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
Hmm . . . Interesting, just comparing notes here - I use Firefox for most of my mail activity, but still use Safari for Apple comms etc. Haven't been getting any odd downloads like you have, but in the past few days Command-Q has become ineffective and I've been having to Force Quit to get out of it. Otherwise, I stare at the spinning beachball forever . . . Wondering if this oddity and the behaviour you're experiencing could be somehow related? The only thing I've installed lately has been an update to Flip4Mac. JM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
Isn't there an unresolved security problem with the latest version of Safari 3? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
At 11:33 AM -0400 5/6/2009, photoartcom wrote: > >They seem to power up, meaning the lights come on. I can hear it >trying to start up but no >video (monitor), no tone, just lights. Lack of bong is a total failure of the self-test - probably the PMU isn't running. So Peter's suggestion of replacing the PRAM battery is the first step. Odd that two machines would go down at the same time this way tho. What else happened? What is plugged into them? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
