Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Manuel Marques
Kris: Thanks for the info, especially the last paragraph! dc: I eventually narrowed the problem to the installation disks I was using... I had a OS 8 and a OS 9 disk, and neither one would boot the machine. Then it crossed my mind to try to boot the machine with a Panther CD I have here - it

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 5, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Manuel Marques wrote: Then it crossed my mind to try to boot the machine with a Panther CD I have here - it booted straight up, until the point it generated a kernel panic for not being able to determine the CPU type, based on the system model. You can install

Re: Overclocking a Rev A Beige Desktop that's been upgraded to a G4

2010-05-05 Thread dc
On May 4, 3:48 pm, deadwinter thecar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Rev.A Beige Desktop G3. maxed out in RAM, with the stock 4GB HD.  I upgraded the CPU to a G4, so now it's up to 500MHz.  OS is 10.2.6.  Strangely, with the L2 cache enabled (I'm assuming that if I ran the Sonnet enabler and I

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread dc
The Beige is a handful as an upgrade project. That's why I love it! My beige G3: OWC G4 533 MHz, 768 MB RAM, 15K/16MB SCSI drive ATTO PSC card, GeForce 6200 /256 MB, Pioneer DVR-109, Sonnet USB Firewire combo card. I added a 40mm Silenex fan in place of the small speaker to deal with the

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I have an idea. Since the system only boots from the internal HDD, try installing OS 9 on one computer, take out the HDD and put it back in the beige G3. The newest system that i know of that can work with a sudden hardware change is the Sawtooth G4. I have done this before, and it works. So

Re: G5 tower not accepting some install discs

2010-05-05 Thread TVirkkala
Thanks. I obviously searched Google with the wrong terms. On May 4, 2010, at 4:46 PM, TVirkkala wrote: My G5 won't let me install my Photoshop CS3 discs . . . just spits it out. Same for ProTools LE 7 disc. Just spit it out. Installs from Apple will work, but it's almost as if all other

Re: Overclocking a Rev A Beige Desktop that's been upgraded to a G4

2010-05-05 Thread deadwinter
Damn, DC, thanks for all the info. I will now proceed with caution and not try to deal with those tiny jumpers. Also, I was *this* close to getting a cheap 700 on eBay. Clearly I need to do some more research. Cheap is good, but I don't really want to spend time getting over incompatibilities

Re: Python ?? Curiouser couriouser

2010-05-05 Thread gifutiger
You can also use the sudo lsof and then use cmd f and find all of the occurrence of any test that you are looking for. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca. On May 4, 9:53 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Dan

Re: Opera (Latest Try)

2010-05-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 4, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: My advice: Move on. There are better browsers available. I had been a faithful Opera user for as long as I remember. Never a problem until now. I have used iCab but plenty of sites didn't like it. Maybe try Chrome and see how it works

Re: Overclocking a Rev A Beige Desktop that's been upgraded to a G4

2010-05-05 Thread dc
On May 5, 11:22 am, deadwinter thecar...@gmail.com wrote: Damn, DC, thanks for all the info.  I will now proceed with caution and not try to deal with those tiny jumpers. Also, I was *this* close to getting a cheap 700 on eBay.  Clearly I need to do some more research.  Cheap is good, but I

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread dc
On May 5, 8:13 am, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have an idea. Since the system only boots from the internal HDD, try installing OS 9 on one computer, take out the HDD and put it back in the beige G3. The newest system that i know of that can work with a sudden hardware change

Re: Opera (Latest Try)

2010-05-05 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: My advice: Move on. There are better browsers available. I had been a faithful Opera user for as long as I remember. Never a problem until now. I have

ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread John Carmonne
HI ALL I have a pm G5 Dual 2.7 early 2005. I put in a FirmTek SeriTek/1V4FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 card and so far 2 more 2TB drives and an external port connected to my new card the new 2TBs work as expected, but when I plug in an external WD 1 TB drive with a eSATA cable it doesn't mount the

Re: ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Engle
No hot swap support on that card. Try plugging it in then restarting it. Jeff Sent from my iPod On May 5, 2010, at 1:16 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: HI ALL I have a pm G5 Dual 2.7 early 2005. I put in a FirmTek SeriTek/ 1V4FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 card and so far 2 more 2TB drives

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
Yes, but I don't want to run OS X on this machine. It feels so fast, even with only 96 MB of RAM... I don't want to put Panther just to drag things down... to run OS X, I have newer machines, like my 2006 iMac :). Mine is SLOW, with 9.2.2 and 386Mb of RAM. And a modern IBM Deskstar 40Gb HD.

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 5, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: I recently got through LEM Swap a Radeo 7000 card. To get full advantage of the Radeon under OS X you'd need to enable Quartz Extreme using PCI Extreme! 3.1 available at MacUpdate. You can ignore the warnings if you're using Tiger

Re: ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 5, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a pm G5 Dual 2.7 early 2005. I put in a FirmTek SeriTek/ 1V4FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 card and so far 2 more 2TB drives and an external port connected to my new card the new 2TBs work as expected, but when I plug in an external WD 1 TB

Re: ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On May 5, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 5, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a pm G5 Dual 2.7 early 2005. I put in a FirmTek SeriTek/ 1V4FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 card and so far 2 more 2TB drives and an external port connected to my new card the new 2TBs work as

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Manuel Marques
Thanks, but earlier I mentioned I was able to boot from another OS 9 CD. The problem was not the machine, but the install media! It booted (or, at least, it tried to) from a Panther install CD. And Gorka: to me, it feels fast! Indeed a lot faster than my 5200, and all of my older 68k Macs... but

Re: ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: How do I check the firmware? Look in System ProfilerPCI Cards and highlight the SeriTek/1V4 card entry and look underneath at what is says for ROM Revision. Also how is it updated if need be? http://www.firmtek.com/download/ My card has

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Tilford
Did you attempt to run the updater on the CD-ROM unit? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=24714 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
To get full advantage of the Radeon under OS X you'd need to enable Quartz Extreme using PCI Extreme! 3.1 available at MacUpdate. You can ignore the warnings if you're using Tiger 10.4.11, it works fine. It was only under the bad OS X updates of 10.3.7 and 10.4.3-10.4.5 that it didn't work.

Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

2010-05-05 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
And Gorka: to me, it feels fast! Indeed a lot faster than my 5200, and all of my older 68k Macs... but for heavy work, general web browsing and iTunes, I use my 2006 iMac! But I can't play those older games on the iMac, nor can I talk properly to older hardware like my flatbed scanner...

Re: ESATA IN PM G5

2010-05-05 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On May 5, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 5, 2010, at 5:27 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: How do I check the firmware? Look in System ProfilerPCI Cards and highlight the SeriTek/1V4 card entry and look underneath at what is says for ROM Revision. Also how is it updated if need

FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Lopez
FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions Finally got around to dealing with FireWire. Looked and looked, but could not find any, so gave up and went to Frys. They have some 6 different versions, 6 wire to 4 wire, 4 to 4, 6 to 6, and more. The question is what is the FireWire that is

Re: Opera (Latest Try)

2010-05-05 Thread Michael G.M.
On May 4, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I downloaded Camino and will see what it is like. Please do, Camino is one of the best of the best, imho. What have you been waiting for? -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3,

Re: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions

2010-05-05 Thread Ken Daggett
On 5 May 2010, at 19:26:26 PDT, Jonas Lopez wrote: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions Finally got around to dealing with FireWire. Looked and looked, but could not find any, so gave up and went to Frys. They have some 6 different versions, 6 wire to 4 wire, 4 to 4, 6 to 6, and

Re: Opera (Latest Try)

2010-05-05 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.comwrote: On May 4, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I downloaded Camino and will see what it is like. Please do, Camino is one of the best of the best, imho. What have you been waiting for? Well, I have had

Re: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions

2010-05-05 Thread Dan
At 7:26 PM -0700 5/5/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions Finally got around to dealing with FireWire. Looked and looked, but could not find any, so gave up and went to Frys. They have some 6 different versions, 6 wire to 4 wire, 4 to 4, 6 to 6, and more.

Re: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Lopez
Target Mode G4, G5 Towers and or  MacBook, iBook Attempting to use Target Mode. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net Subject: Re: FireWire cable comes in 6 different versions To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 5,

Re: Opera (Latest Try)

2010-05-05 Thread Dan
At 11:04 PM -0500 5/5/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: However, Safari seems to becoming unresponsive (Application Not Responding) after awhile. I only have 10 Tabs open and in the past have had many more open and have not had this happen. As discussed in a previous thread, Safari 4.0.5 has some