G3 DEAD

Ive been using a Imac ruby very efficiently as a backup firewire connected to a G4 via statrtup command T Except that today power failure left the G3 completely unstartable - no green light no chime - zilch. Stage 1 Yes the battery was low-low so I replaced it -- ZERO effect Stage 2 -

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an >> early Intel Mac laptop. >> The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine.

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > >The only computer from Radio Shack that I remember was the "Tandy Apple > Clone" ... Never knew they made others too??? A whole string...Tandy/Radio Shack were pretty big early players in the Personal Computer market. The very fir

Re: Apple inside?

At 8:50 PM -0700 10/24/2010, Joshua Juran wrote: The Core 2 Duo was a real performance boost comparted to the PowerPC G4 which was stuck at 1.5 GHz. I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz is possible without overclocking - altough I'm not sure if they aren't overclocked by default? My r

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

   The only computer from Radio Shack that I remember was the "Tandy Apple Clone" ... Never knew they made others too???-Original Message- From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio Sent: Oct 25, 2010 1:37 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Interesting Vintage Website On Sun, Oct 24, 2010

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text >> to >> be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or color >> to >> intercu

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jeff Bequette wrote: > > > What were the HDs for the Apple and early (Plus, SE, etc.) Macs? > The Commodore computers? The ADAM Home Computers? > > I wonder because I have a Commodore Plus/4 and a C=64 as well as an old > ADAM Home Computer. I know the ADAM took t

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

Hey John, Can it be done on a Clamshell??? -Original Message- >From: John Carmonne >Sent: Oct 24, 2010 3:56 PM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell > > >On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Peter Haas wrote: > >> >> On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Rich

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

I kind of figured that was the case or someone would have put a bigger one in it I'm sure... -Original Message- >From: Peter Haas >Sent: Oct 24, 2010 3:38 PM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell > > >On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Richard Gero

Re: Apple inside?

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: > The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2 > duo look like a Celeron in terms of performance and I don't know many > Apple users who want to Use Windoze unless they absolutely have to and > there are emulators that

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple inside? Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N From:Daniel Stewart To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2 duo look

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: > > AIX was in use on Macs way before the PPC days. I remember a developer using > it in 1990... AIX is IBM's proprietary frankenunix, you're thinking of A/UX, which was Apple's port of System V: -- Br

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote: IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC. I think he mea

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote: IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC. I think he meant OS/2. Josh -- You received this message becaus

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:47 AM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote: - Original Message - From: "James Therrault" but I still think that Apple dropped the ball with regard to option to power sucking G5 chips for laptops. Neither IBM or Motorola could do it but maybe a special arrangement with

Re: Apple inside?

On 2010/10/24 00:35, Brian Christmas so eloquently wrote: The end of this race is a long way away yet. The finish line is constantly being moved, there is no end. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On 2010/10/24 04:05, Scotty so eloquently wrote: Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell 366 mhz/FW400? I put a 120 GB drive in a Tangerine iBook and it worked fine without partitioning it. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 6

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:56 PM, John Carmonne wrote: There are some open firmware commands that are supposed to it it but I was never able to make that method work for me :-) The so-called "LBA48 property" may be added persistently (meaning it is available at boot-time) on some desktops (gen

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Peter Haas wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> I have followed them on ebay for yrs and never have seen one with higher >> then 120G... > > 120 GB was the largest physical drive made, although the software supports a > drive up to

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Oct 24, 3:34 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > (in my case: one of each...I never use Dashboard, couldn't live   > without Spaces). That makes two of us. I started using Desktop Manager in Tiger before Leopard even reared its spotted head, and was very grateful when Apple added the multiple simultane

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:07 PM, daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales which was their second best seller after ipods. The Cell procssor would have been perfct for laptops which why the made one specifically for that purpose. I

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz is possible without overclocking – altough I'm not sure if they aren't overclocked by default? 1.42 was the fastest chip which Freescale (successor to Motorola) was making in the end. The

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N From:Richard Gerome To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >I have an 80G in one of mine, but I think it might only be 125G??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_block_add

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote: IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC. Usually sold as part of IBM's AIX products. Much as Apple's Network Server products supported AIX. -- You received

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine. The wide screen HQ files were only 1024 wide or so but played

Re: Apple inside?

-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple inside? Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N From:Daniel Stewart To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2 > duo look like a Celeron in terms of performance The Core 2 Du

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have followed them on ebay for yrs and never have seen one with higher then 120G... 120 GB was the largest physical drive made, although the software supports a drive up to 131,072 MB (128 GB). -- You received this message because you

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:40 PM, John Callahan wrote: Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about "IS the world about to change ?" is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done

Re: Apple inside?

Bruce I was talking about how things were perceived when it was revealed that they would have had a far better product if they had waited and your comments are misleading since the vast majority of Apple's record sales and stock increases over the last several years have been generated almost entir

Re: IS the world about to change ?

On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text to be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or color to intercut and clarify for those who are challenged by comparing the response

Re: Apple inside?

Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales which was their second best seller after ipods. The Cell procssor would have been perfct for laptops which why the made one specifically for that purpose. I have no idea how an xbox has anything to do with PPC based laptop. It

Re: Apple inside?

-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple inside? Date:Sonntag 24 Oktober 2010N From:James Therrault To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Dan wrote: > Eventurally and partly due to the ALTIVEC squabble, IBM took over > most G4 production and

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: Ultimately Apple ended up looking like impatient dummies and paid the price. yeah, record-breaking profits, stock at stratospheric highs, a complete rejuvenation of the platform and more Macs sold than ever in their history. Dell stock

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower then anything Intel had and that Blew even the top G5s out of the water but it came a few months too late because Apple in their imp

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 23, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: CPU magazine claims that next year a technology and logic combination will be released that will be 1000 times as fast and blow everything out of the water. CPU has never let me down on a prediction despite the constant skep

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: "Everything that has occurred in Silicon Valley in the last couple of decades also occurred in the 1850s. Anyone who thinks that wild-ass high tech venture capitalism is a late-20th-century California phenomenon needs to read abo

Re: Apple inside?

The thing was though the new PPC processor apparently made the Core2 duo look like a Celeron in terms of performance and I don't know many Apple users who want to Use Windoze unless they absolutely have to and there are emulators that would have run XP or the Vista virus on the PPC platform if you

Re: Apple inside?

> (snip) Well you are right that AMD does not do PPC CPUs you could not be more > wrong about the switch to Intel being a smart move. They only did it > to boost lagging laptop sales because they were stuck with the G4 > because the G5 ran too hot to stick it in a laptop and they were > loosing cl

Re: Apple inside?

I've been in the industry for 26+ years. It's rare to see a leap that's outside the bounds of Moore's law. The geometry of semiconductors moves in small increments, 1/4 micron, 200nm, 180nm, 120nm, 90nm, 65nm, 45nm, 32nm you get the idea. Most vendors have hit a bit of a wall in terms of perfor

Re: Apple inside?

Well you are right that AMD does not do PPC CPUs you could not be more wrong about the switch to Intel being a smart move. They only did it to boost lagging laptop sales because they were stuck with the G4 because the G5 ran too hot to stick it in a laptop and they were loosing clock speed marketi

Re: Apple inside?

- Original Message - From: "James Therrault" To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:07:20 AM Subject: Re: Apple inside? On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote: > I'm thinking by next summer/fall, Apple will be offering A4 > "portables" and Core i7 and i

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:07 AM -0600 10/24/2010, James Therrault wrote: When the PowerPC alliance dropped the ball (inability to produce faster PowerPC G4 processors for laptops), Apple jumped ship by switching to Intel's new Core architecture. Don'tcha mean G5? The

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On 24 Oct 2010, at 12:33, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Scotty wrote: Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell 366 mhz/FW400? I can't seem to find an answer online. I'm not sure but I did have a 7,200 rpm 60GB drive installed into an

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:33 AM, James Therrault wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Scotty wrote: > >> Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell >> 366 mhz/FW400? I can't seem to find an answer online. > I belive it's 128 GB I have a 100 in my Wallstreet 300.

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

I have an 80G in one of mine, but I think it might only be 125G??? I know this is the max in an old G4 Tower built around the same time period... I have followed them on ebay for yrs and never have seen one with higher then 120G... -Original Message- >From: Scotty >Sent: Oct 24,

Re: Apple inside?

At 5:07 AM -0600 10/24/2010, James Therrault wrote: When the PowerPC alliance dropped the ball (inability to produce faster PowerPC G4 processors for laptops), Apple jumped ship by switching to Intel's new Core architecture. Don'tcha mean G5? The roadmap called for both the G4 and G5 to prog

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Vic wrote: On Oct 22, 3:48 pm, Arnel Tuazon wrote: > On 22/10/10 4:14 PM, "Bill Brown" wrote: > > > Wow!! Take a look at this stuff!! A little expensive for a > > hard drive, eh? > > > Bill > > >http://www.

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Scotty wrote: Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell 366 mhz/FW400? I can't seem to find an answer online. I'm not sure but I did have a 7,200 rpm 60GB drive installed into an old 466MHz a few years ago. JT _

Re: Apple inside?

On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:19 PM -0700 10/23/2010, Scotty wrote: Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad. In ?2008?, Apple bought PA Semi, a company that *designs* chips. Like Apple, they don't fab

Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell 366 mhz/FW400? I can't seem to find an answer online. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FA

Re: Apple inside?

At 11:19 PM -0700 10/23/2010, Scotty wrote: Apple relatively recently acquired a company that makes CPUs for mobile devices like the A4 Processor in the ipad. In ?2008?, Apple bought PA Semi, a company that *designs* chips. Like Apple, they don't fabricate ("make") anything - that work is all

Re: Apple inside?

"Everything that has occurred in Silicon Valley in the last couple of decades also occurred in the 1850s. Anyone who thinks that wild-ass high tech venture capitalism is a late-20th-century California phenomenon needs to read about the maniacs who built the first transatlantic cable projects. The o