Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > At 21:29 -0400 10/30/10, Kevin Barth wrote: > All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than > others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square > Wave-producing generators may power lights and f

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Chance Reecher
At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote:  >Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most l

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Dan
At 4:59 PM -0700 10/31/2010, Al Poulin wrote: On Oct 31, 2:03 pm, Dan wrote: > But more importantly -- it is, um, inappropriate to re-post complete copyrighted works without the author's permission. Was such permission obtained? > Nannies -- If permission was not obtained the pirated da

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Oct 31, 7:27 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > No one ever gets anywhere near 480 Mbps, you're lucky to get half, if   > that. Agreed, but even if 12 runs at 12, 240 is still 20X. So when I went to back up a near full TB drive, well, you can do the math. With a proper USB 2.0 card, the G4 MDD can sy

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Low Speed ... Full Speed ... High Speed ... I think 2.0 does mean 480 ... No one ever gets anywhere near 480 Mbps, you're lucky to get half, if that. In my experience, Firewire 400 beats USB 2.0 hands down, but then, you can't escape USB,

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Try hooking it up to another computer or hook it up through an external case. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-lis

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Bill Connelly
On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:34 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I really appreciate the explanation. There are times when if one is so ignorant they don't know what they don't know, and, therefore, they don't know to research. I thought 2.0 meant 480Mb/s, and I was wrong it would appear. I've learned some ve

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread gifutiger
Greetings, If your Disk Utilities can see the new disk, select the disk and click on "info" and tell us what it says! If you are able to see and select the drive then use "erase" before trying to partition the disk! If that doesn't work then tell us the exact system response, Cheers Harry San Jo

Re: Yet-another boring viral FUD panic.

2010-10-31 Thread Yersinia
On 10/31/10 11:50 AM, Dan wrote: Koobface. heh. A good read. See also the links at the end of their page. - Dan. Sorry, but I just can't resist... "the hoops an eejit has to jump through to get 'infected' redefine the word 'stupidity'." Which I

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Oct 31, 5:51 pm, Ralph Green wrote: > Howdy, >   They seem quite clear to me.  Full speed for USB as always referred to > the 12 Mbit/s speed.  I guess I would say buyers should always beware, > but a little research does not hurt.  I remember when USB 2.0 came out > and the new speed was cal

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Yersinia
On 10/31/10 8:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even "see" the new drive. What can be wrong? Th

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Ralph Green
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 13:21 -0700, JoeTaxpayer wrote: > The card I got WAS OHCI but still not 2.0, despite the website saying > OHCI. > The box it came in said "Supports USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices at full > speed" so I don't hold "We Love Macs" 100% responsible. Yet after a > number of calls and e

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Number one reason to not get Lion Apple only likes Mac users when they keep buying new and on schedule. Their's ! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at htt

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Doug McNutt
At 21:29 -0400 10/30/10, Kevin Barth wrote: All generators are NOT created equal. Some produce MUCH cleaner output than others. Spikes and surges can destroy sensitive electronics. Square Wave-producing generators may power lights and freezers just fine, but they will not work well with compu

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread JoeTaxpayer
The card I got WAS OHCI but still not 2.0, despite the website saying OHCI. The box it came in said "Supports USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices at full speed" so I don't hold "We Love Macs" 100% responsible. Yet after a number of calls and emails, their site isn't clear that this card is not really 2.0.

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Peter Haas
On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it.

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
Using the Disk Utility formating function, how can I do it wrong? I would double check that you are formatting it right??? This happened to me once but it was with a PATA drive... -Original Message- From: AndersFager Sent: Oct 31, 2010 8:04 AM To: G-Group Subject: Dead Drive

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Ti

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Richard Gerome
I would double check that you are formatting it right??? This happened to me once but it was with a PATA drive... -Original Message- >From: AndersFager >Sent: Oct 31, 2010 8:04 AM >To: G-Group >Subject: Dead Drive? > >Folks, > >Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The o

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Cadeon wrote: OHCI... I knew there was a trick to it. All USB 2 cards are OHCI; the Windows XP USB drivers required OHCI, so UHCI cards rather quickly fell by the wayside. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Grou

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: > Folks, > > Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had > "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating > the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not > even "see" the new drive. Wh

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread william Bowles
Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even "see" the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new battery and

Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Dan
Title: Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why At 3:43 PM -0500 10/27/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10 -Reasons-Why-776953/?kc=EWKNLEAU10262010STR3 Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why By: Don Reisinge

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Martz
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: > Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had > "issues". Without having any idea whether or not any of them might apply here are some things that come to mind: 1) The old drive didn't really have issues. Rather the problem i

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Bill Connelly
On Oct 31, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Gottick International wrote: OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? Probably not. How about the cable ... is that new? a good one? Connected well at both ends ... didn't come loose when the machine

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle
nope I have a 500gb in mine. with no problems:-) Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Gottick International wrote: > OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for > the machine to handle? > >> The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff >> On Oct 31,

Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Cadeon
OHCI... I knew there was a trick to it. On Oct 31, 12:43 am, Peter Haas wrote: > On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Cadeon wrote: > > > The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean > > really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's > > going to be hit-or-mis

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: > No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. > >> Jumper issue? >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: The iMac G5's are sATA so the jumpers are not an issue here. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP

Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > >> If this is the first version of OS neXt for the machine it's very likely >> that the ROM needs the upgrade. > > On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> The firmware update is

Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable

2010-10-31 Thread John Carmonne
My PM G4 MDD Dual 1.25 has everything I will ever need in a PPC machine. This box runs every day mostly ripping and burning, great for burning two at a time in the time of one. I've never had a component go out yet except a PRAM battery and HHD that Seagate replaced for free. All I think is ne

Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-10-31 Thread Stephen Conrad
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10 -Reasons-Why-776953/?kc=EWKNLEAU10262010STR3 Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why By: Don Reisinger 2010-10-21 *Table of Contents:* 1. Mac OS X Lion Is

Yet-another boring viral FUD panic.

2010-10-31 Thread Dan
Koobface. heh. A good read. See also the links at the end of their page. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Ma

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be too big for the machine to handle? The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On Oc

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle
The G5 iMac's have sata drives no jumpers on them. Jeff On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: > No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. > >> Jumper issue? >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Installed a brand new 500 gig h

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Gottick International
No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to pa

Re: Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread Alex Barnes
Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: > Folks, > > Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had > "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating > the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not > even "see" the

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Oct 31, 2:40 am, "Tina K." wrote: > On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: > > >>> My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use > >>> significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts > >>> is m

Dead Drive?

2010-10-31 Thread AndersFager
Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even "see" the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new battery and from what I

Re: back up generator question

2010-10-31 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Tina K. wrote: > On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: >> On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: >> My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts i